California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

Probably should not worry until the precious sacred Salmon are rescued. Then and only then be very afraid.

ANOTHER TURBINE FAILED RECENTLY! TWO DOWN...

That's a damn shame

That's right, it took some 3 days to evacuate the fish in 2017, and it wasn't until they were out that the people were told to evacuate.

I didn't see this before on the web cam (maybe always says this?

[link to www.parks.ca.gov]

Notice: The Lake Oroville SRA webcam's may be offline at times due to issues related to the repair of the webcam's network connection.

MHORE DHOOM..ILL TAKE THE O-VUH JOEY...

Water Officials Quell Rumors Of Oroville Dam Spillway Problems

The late season storm is raising concern for people living below the Oroville Dam, especially after a flood of online rumors concerning the rebuilty spillway.

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They aren't planning on using the spillway. They have equipment on there. Which would damage the spillway on down if opened with two lifts by the gates.

That tells me they aren't prepared to use the spillway on a moment's notice.

I think they know they can't use it.

YIKES! KALI IS ABOUT TO GET SLAMMED!

[link to www.goes.noaa.gov (secure)]

Did the construction company take all their heavy equipment off site?

HOLY MOLY! LOOK AT THESE PICTURES!

[link to pixel-ca-dwr.photoshelter.com (secure)]

Those are old

I don't thinks so. If you look on the lower part of the road going to the parking lot (where it loops around) there is some equipment there.

It's raining pretty good:

[link to www.parks.ca.gov]

at least it was, now it's frozen.

We did have our own economy and food and they burned our whole town down. I'll bet Trump got word about Oroville Dam last night and issued the disaster declaration for 17 counties so he wouldn't be percieved as part of the failure

I see material and a few little dozers. But the big diggers I don't see. But the cam viewing is obviously limited.

Thanks

SO ARE DIAMONDS! JUST BECAUSE THOSE PICTURES WERE TAKEN IN 2017 MEANS THEY ARE WORTHLESS?

IT'S A HISTORY LESSON, SHITFACE!

Oroville Dam Overflow Warning

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refresh it, and it'll unfreeze...

Calm your shit numbnuts

Thanks! It sure is strange that there isn't a soul to be seen.....

I didn't see much activity yesterday either...

There work is complete?

HEY BRITTARD! DON'T YOU HAVE A DENTIST APPOINTMENT THAT YOU'VE GOT TO GET TO?

NO?

WHAT ABOUT ACID? ARE YOU GOING TO THROW ACID IN THE FACE OF AN UNSUSPECTING TOURIST?

HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU GOING TO KNIFE TODAY?

IF U MEAN PACKIN IT WIFF SEA FUR.... COUNT THE DOTS

THEN, U MAY B CORRECT.

Last Ditch Effort at Oroville

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Actually they did, they just opened them all up later than that video was made.

One thing that now stands out me, that I never realized before is this. It's pretty obvious, especially from that video, that the gates were not leaking the entire time, up till the time they used them.

Now some, or all definitely ARE leaking and of course, this is completely normal because they were never designed to seal, even though they were, and never leaked before use.

So, in conclusion of that obvious gate leak situation there are only 2 ways the situation can be.

1) something fucked up with the gate seals after this one time operation and the once sealing surface(s) can no longer be sealed, or it has been determined that a full seal mode would cause some kind of damage. This would be bad, subjective as to how bad? that would have to be determined by pros on the scene. However, it is impossible that flowing water under pressure carrying an unknown amount of abrasive materials, won't abrade against the surface(s) that it is flowing over, around and through. It is physically impossible for that fluid, water plus whatever, not to be creating wear. So, the leak area must increase until it somehow gets clogged or sealed and fluid stops moving through it.

2) For some reason unknown to us the operators are intentionally leaving some or all gates partially open to allow this relatively small amount of water to get through. All of the above surface wear details would apply here also. I'm sure there are a few conspiracy theories as to why they might be doing that, if they are, such as using the minimal water flow to hide some surface issue on the main spillway etc etc, you can all run with that. There really isn't any good reason for the gates to be partially opened on purpose, there is no upside for that reasoning and it wouldn't be considered reasoning IMO, it'd be the opposite.

All we really know is the gates were not leaking before the test operation, now post operation they are and we are being told this all perfectly normal and expected.

So what IS normal? No leaks before, or now leaks after?
Both? lol, yeah sure.

Perhaps the leaks prior to operation were all clog sealed by various amounts of crud and debris, like pepper in a car's radiator, great. Now that they released the crud, the gates leak, also great.

All I can tell you with any certainty is this:
Wherever the "leaking" water is, wear is taking place. That wear is removing material and if left to continue, the size of the leaks is going to increase. The more fluid the leaks allow to flow? the faster that material removal will happen. 100 cfs removes more material than 10 cfs and 500 cfs removes more than 100 cfs.

Fluid pressure increasing by the lake rising also adds in, 20 psi fluid has a higher flow rate though the same size opening than 15 psi and 25 psi higher than 20, same laws apply.

There might only be a very small amount of wear to the gates, concrete, seals whatever surfaces, but it will never stop as long as fluid flow continues, it cannot stop.

Maybe everyone will get lucky and the possible crud seals will just happen naturally over time and the leaks will stop, or maybe we'll see the pepper barges deployed, we just don't know because all we get is STFU everything's fine, completely normal.

So we may just see the amount of water leaking through the gates increase, oh wait we have, grrreat.

This was from yesterday's broadcast where Hodges was criticized for talking about cubic, square feet.

484,

GREAT POST!

THANKS A LOT!

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