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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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Watching dam live
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the camera pans to right at side of ESW and road up to boat ramp ;
Is that a little pond of water??? From run off or seepage??
Saw it last night was very reflective and looked like water.
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NO DOOM.

This thread is fronted by a hoaxter who simply posts shit and hopes people believe it like flat earth. That's the only parallel I can state that is anywhere near accurate.

Pictures of mud where there is none but he hope's you'll "see it" if he coaxes enough

Phoney pictures of cracks that were photoshopped (much earlier in the thread) and much much more.

NO DOOM. NO DAM FAILURE. The gates always leaked from day 1. It is not a problem. The structure is so massive trucks will not shake it, and even if they did they would do nothing.

Hoax hoax hoaxety hoax hoax HOAX!
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NO DOOM.

This thread is fronted by a hoaxter who simply posts shit and hopes people believe it like flat earth. That's the only parallel I can state that is anywhere near accurate.

Pictures of mud where there is none but he hope's you'll "see it" if he coaxes enough

Phoney pictures of cracks that were photoshopped (much earlier in the thread) and much much more.

NO DOOM. NO DAM FAILURE. The gates always leaked from day 1. It is not a problem. The structure is so massive trucks will not shake it, and even if they did they would do nothing.

Hoax hoax hoaxety hoax hoax HOAX!
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So DWR sends out a guy to clean up nothing?

I saw the mud, everyone saw it. Lots saw a muddy pool at the bottom too after cleaning up top by the gates.


Dumbass shill
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They are using sandbags at the top to direct flow, I can't see any mud myself but if there is any its coming from them. NO DOOM !
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No, mud shows before the 1st sandbag.

Fuck yeah we love NO DOOM. But I'm not some stupid dipshit who trusts DWR. I see cracks, I see mud, I see 25+ people on spillway at times. All from a test that maxed at 15k CFS?

Are they able to do a 60k CFS test during dry season? Yes, now is the time to test that flow rate. Because the water released is replaced, instead of dumping out the power plant turbines working beyond their ratings.

We have actual engineers and other well skilled people raising red flags.

Well, you can fool yourself and you may even fool others into a sense of false security.

But you can't fool me.
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GOOD POST!
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Okay the rain is over until November. The concrete will be even more cured. The guardrail will be complete. The spillway and the gates got a good test a few weeks ago.

I'm waiting for the apologies from all the doomtards for posting BS and wasting the local sheriff and other hardworking people's time trying to stop the panic.

It's all right here for people to see. 1000 pages of BS predictions that never come true.

You can post your apologies right here on this thread.
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Watching dam live
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the camera pans to right at side of ESW and road up to boat ramp ;
Is that a little pond of water??? From run off or seepage??
Saw it last night was very reflective and looked like water.
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I think it's just rain water. I noticed it reflecting off of the setting sun the other day, after several bouts of rain. It wasn't there prior to all the rain of late.
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When a leading national forensic engineer heads up a 124 page report with serious concerns about the dam, such that he goes so far as to say the dam could breach on a sunny summer day, its hard to even try to understand where people like Mr Taco get their mindset from.
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Muddy "spring" gushing from the cracks? Located downward left from the center of photo.

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Watching dam live
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the camera pans to right at side of ESW and road up to boat ramp ;
Is that a little pond of water??? From run off or seepage??
Saw it last night was very reflective and looked like water.
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 Quoting: Amanda Lee


Hard rain in torn up construction areas = muddy run off.
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OMG ... 1/2 inch of rain falls on a HUGE construction site ON A HILL in an hour and some rain water runs off!!! Who ever heard of such a thing happening??!!


OMG ... OMG ... 1/2 inch of rain falls on a HUGE construction site ON A HILL in an hour and not only rain water ran off BUT SOME of the run off was MUDDY!!! Who ever heard of such a thing happening??!!


Date .......... Time ....... Total Rain for year
05/21/2019 . 15:00 . . 45.08 13.4
05/21/2019 . 16:00 . . 45.62 13.4
05/21/2019 . 17:00 . . 45.68 13.4

[link to cdec.water.ca.gov]

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Okay the rain is over until November. The concrete will be even more cured. The guardrail will be complete. The spillway and the gates got a good test a few weeks ago.

I'm waiting for the apologies from all the doomtards for posting BS and wasting the local sheriff and other hardworking people's time trying to stop the panic.

It's all right here for people to see. 1000 pages of BS predictions that never come true.

You can post your apologies right here on this thread.
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stfu
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Okay the rain is over until November. The concrete will be even more cured. The guardrail will be complete. The spillway and the gates got a good test a few weeks ago.

I'm waiting for the apologies from all the doomtards for posting BS and wasting the local sheriff and other hardworking people's time trying to stop the panic.

It's all right here for people to see. 1000 pages of BS predictions that never come true.

You can post your apologies right here on this thread.
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just like winter is supposed to be over in Colorado and we keep not being able to have tomato plants yet.. snow yesterday and I have the furnace running 4 days in a row.

The hillsides and bottom of that reservoir are saturated with water and piping is going on and it will blow and sooner rather than later.. doesn't matter the spillway construction or the "emergency spillway" have a concrete apron on it.

The interior of the actual dam is eroding too. There are sink holes forming IN the lake and draining some water down under further risking bigger collapses in the bottom. the Dam and its abutments are going to fail. I haven't asked about if any of the surrounding hills might slide into the mess. I need to do that. There is no way to get the reservoir lower than waiting on a dry season.

Fools will be fools to the end. And perish for it.
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you guys crack me up with over blown damage assessments. Listen, even if the whole thing blew out at once, all yer talking is a swath of flooding through the center of overille, then some fielda and orchards diwn marysville. The central valley was a SEAMP, it will always be a swamp. Thats why the soil is so damn good! Its not gonna harm any agriculuture long yerm, only gonna interupt this summers harvest

CHILLAX PEORIA ILLINOIS ARMCHAIR DAM EXPERTS!!!
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So only a couple of thousand people would get killed?
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not even that, 1000 TOPS....
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1 person killed is 1 too many
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look at bottom of spillway cam and the color of the water underneath the spillway
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That cam is now unavailable. Suspicious.

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look at bottom of spillway cam and the color of the water underneath the spillway
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That cam is now unavailable. Suspicious.

[link to www.parks.ca.gov]
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I got it to come up, I just hit >Play
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Okay the rain is over until November. The concrete will be even more cured. The guardrail will be complete. The spillway and the gates got a good test a few weeks ago.

I'm waiting for the apologies from all the doomtards for posting BS and wasting the local sheriff and other hardworking people's time trying to stop the panic.

It's all right here for people to see. 1000 pages of BS predictions that never come true.

You can post your apologies right here on this thread.
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-DWR needs to apologize for being secretive.

-There are some highly skilled professionals who say this dam is in serious risk of sudden failure.

DWR needs to apologize to those professional.

-DWR needs to apologize to that Oroville dam watch group for having them shut down. Which btw, both have existed fine up until recently.

-DWR needs to get up off their asses and FIX THE KNOWN PROBLEMS PROPERLY!!!


and an explanation why dozens of cracks with gaps are ok after ONE RUN at 15k CFS. Just one run! What, is that a disposable billion dollar spillway?



No, DWR has fault and something isn't right. They need to come clean and also fix those darn gates!!!!!!! Do their JOBS fixing that dam, which they neglected for many many years.
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...just like winter is supposed to be over in Colorado and we keep not being able to have tomato plants yet.. snow yesterday and I have the furnace running 4 days in a row...

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How long have you lived in Colorado?

Back in the mid 1970's I remember one 4th of July camping trip where I was fighting overnight temps in the LOW teens and snow up in the mountains of both southern Colorado and near Leadville. As I recall it had a snow/rain mix almost all the way down to Buena Vista as one came down the Arkansas River watershed.

It is NOT YET summer in Colorado!!

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look at bottom of spillway cam and the color of the water underneath the spillway
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That cam is now unavailable. Suspicious.

[link to www.parks.ca.gov]
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its working for me..
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...just like winter is supposed to be over in Colorado and we keep not being able to have tomato plants yet.. snow yesterday and I have the furnace running 4 days in a row...

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How long have you lived in Colorado?

Back in the mid 1970's I remember one 4th of July camping trip where I was fighting overnight temps in the LOW teens and snow up in the mountains of both southern Colorado and near Leadville. As I recall it had a snow/rain mix almost all the way down to Buena Vista as one came down the Arkansas River watershed.

It is NOT YET summer in Colorado!!
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I was born and raised in Colorado.. lived here all but 2 years when ex hubby was in the military and we went to Texas.

I was born in Steamboat Springs.. and other than the time husband was in Army have lived in the Denver Metro region. we have some small patches of blue sky. It is RARE to have this cold and delayed spring. and per Colorado .. we have had very early snows too.. I remember a big one in Steamboat during the last week of school before labor day... more than a foot of wet stuff that brought down power lines like crazy. It happens.. but its not every year. Usually in May I have the swamp cooler running with sometimes heat in very early morning but rarely into May.

I set up my little indoor swamp cooler after a few days near 80 or so and then the cold came back.. Not sure I am going to do tomatoes or corn this year...
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Has the the snow pack in the mountains meted yet? What is the condition of the dams upstream? Weather models show numerous rain events for the area in the coming days and weeks, yet no plans to make room for more water?
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Anyone who thinks we're over-reacting to the drama unfolding at Oroville has obviously not researched the 35 MAJOR dam failures in the US, most of which were the result of greed and carelessness.
Check out this blog called Those Damned Dams to get some insight into the dangers we ALL face from these structures.

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NO DOOM.

This thread is fronted by a hoaxter who simply posts shit and hopes people believe it like flat earth. That's the only parallel I can state that is anywhere near accurate.

Pictures of mud where there is none but he hope's you'll "see it" if he coaxes enough

Phoney pictures of cracks that were photoshopped (much earlier in the thread) and much much more.

NO DOOM. NO DAM FAILURE. The gates always leaked from day 1. It is not a problem. The structure is so massive trucks will not shake it, and even if they did they would do nothing.

Hoax hoax hoaxety hoax hoax HOAX!
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YOU ARE A LOSER. A LOT O PEOPLE COULD DIE BECAUSE OF CHEAP WORK AND POOR DECISIONS!

KEEP YOU USELESS OPINION TO YOURSELF, LOSER!

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891.01

8,567 outflow

11,218 inflow



No one believes these numbers and all that but interesting to scale the outflow back so much.
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891.01

8,567 outflow

11,218 inflow



No one believes these numbers and all that but interesting to scale the outflow back so much.
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Has the the snow pack in the mountains meted yet? What is the condition of the dams upstream? Weather models show numerous rain events for the area in the coming days and weeks, yet no plans to make room for more water?
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Snow pack has reportedly gained from this weather pattern.

Almanor upstream's numbers are top secret. Reported visually to be full.

I will post weather next.

They just posted numbers of decreased outflow out of the dam.
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Has the the snow pack in the mountains meted yet? What is the condition of the dams upstream? Weather models show numerous rain events for the area in the coming days and weeks, yet no plans to make room for more water?
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Its nearly June they will fill right to the top, they have a brand new fully functional and tested spillway. They do have plans for that water, they want to store it for the summer dry season
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Okay the rain is over until November. The concrete will be even more cured. The guardrail will be complete. The spillway and the gates got a good test a few weeks ago.

I'm waiting for the apologies from all the doomtards for posting BS and wasting the local sheriff and other hardworking people's time trying to stop the panic.

It's all right here for people to see. 1000 pages of BS predictions that never come true.

You can post your apologies right here on this thread.
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Okay the rain is over until November. The concrete will be even more cured. The guardrail will be complete. The spillway and the gates got a good test a few weeks ago.

I'm waiting for the apologies from all the doomtards for posting BS and wasting the local sheriff and other hardworking people's time trying to stop the panic.

It's all right here for people to see. 1000 pages of BS predictions that never come true.

You can post your apologies right here on this thread.
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look at bottom of spillway cam and the color of the water underneath the spillway
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That cam is now unavailable. Suspicious.

[link to www.parks.ca.gov]
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I got it to come up, I just hit >Play
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Thanks, I see that now. It did say "stream unavailable".
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Has the the snow pack in the mountains meted yet? What is the condition of the dams upstream? Weather models show numerous rain events for the area in the coming days and weeks, yet no plans to make room for more water?
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Snow pack has reportedly gained from this weather pattern.

Almanor upstream's numbers are top secret. Reported visually to be full.

I will post weather next.

They just posted numbers of decreased outflow out of the dam.
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Its perfect that the recent weather was cooler, extra snowpack this time of year is fantastic news, slower inflows and prolonged runoff timescales, its like xmas for dam owners
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Are there any pictures of the lake level in the last couple of days?
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Weather~ snow in the Sierras

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Chain controls are back up along highway 80 this evening in the Sierra. #CAwx


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A low pressure system over the southwest U.S. will keep daytime highs a little below normal most areas today while bringing a threat of showers to the Sierra Cascade crest, foothills and parts of the northern San Joaquin valley. #cawx



Some additional moisture expected~ Sky currently looks beautiful some clouds but a beautiful color blue. ** viewing the feed this late am.
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look at bottom of spillway cam and the color of the water underneath the spillway
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That cam is now unavailable. Suspicious.

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I got it to come up, I just hit >Play
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Thanks, I see that now. It did say "stream unavailable".
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The stream is in gate 3. Upper left.
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Has the the snow pack in the mountains meted yet? What is the condition of the dams upstream? Weather models show numerous rain events for the area in the coming days and weeks, yet no plans to make room for more water?
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Its nearly June they will fill right to the top, they have a brand new fully functional and tested spillway. They do have plans for that water, they want to store it for the summer dry season
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A fully tested spillway that is now covered in mud (yes it is mud, workers were seen on video scraping the mud off), has a porta potty on it, and constant "Inspections". The fully functional spillway that has obvious signs of water under the slabs, high pressure water being forced up the the spillway wall drains, etc. etc...

The fully functional gates that are leaking like a sieve and for over the last week have had two manlifts in front of them.

Yep, lots of perfectly functional, normal stuff going on here.

Get the fuck out of here, you britard shill piece of shit....





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