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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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Actually, I believe they stated they would spill at 894'

Obviously, they can't spill with all the workers and equipment at the MS gates, doing whatever they are doing.

I believe, if push comes to shove, they'll let it overtop the ES and call it a 'test'.

Insanity.
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Be prepared to stop this video to observe the leaking gates ..

:30 huge explosions next to the wier!



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Has anyone who knows how to do the math calculations figured how far the lake levels will be able to drop by the end of summer? If this keeps up, what's going to happen if the reservoir is still above 800' come fall?
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They’ve got contracts to fulfill for water to the farmers over the summer. Interesting to see what they do then to lower the lake level
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This should force their hand for two reasons. One, they want the money for the water, but two, what happens when the farmers down south don't get their water and start screaming about DWR holding it in the lake?
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Wave of sickness will come over you when you see this, and then you hope they are being honest about the inflows and then you get kind of queasy all over again.


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Lassen NP today around 8000’

Pic taken June 25th
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Let's hope this picture was taken on the north side of the mountain and not the south side.
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Wave of sickness will come over you when you see this, and then you hope they are being honest about the inflows and then you get kind of queasy all over again.


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Lassen NP today around 8000’

Pic taken June 25th
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Let's hope this picture was taken on the north side of the mountain and not the south side.
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Moon was low and to the east that night. Judging from the moons casting a shadow this is a pic of the north side. But I could be wrong.
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Has anyone who knows how to do the math calculations figured how far the lake levels will be able to drop by the end of summer? If this keeps up, what's going to happen if the reservoir is still above 800' come fall?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77709828


They’ve got contracts to fulfill for water to the farmers over the summer. Interesting to see what they do then to lower the lake level
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74780115


This should force their hand for two reasons. One, they want the money for the water, but two, what happens when the farmers down south don't get their water and start screaming about DWR holding it in the lake?
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Its a money game.

A few years ago, DWR was denying water to many central valley farmers due to the drought.

A rice farmer near me has huge acreage and grandfathered water rights for over 100 years. DWR can't touch his water. He decided not to farm, but to sell his water downstream to farmers that couldn't get water from DWR, because it was more profitable.

It is all about the money.
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I LIKE THE CALCULATED VS. 'REPORTED' LAKE LEVEL DISCOURSE...

WATCH THOSE SEISMIC METERS SINCE THEY R KEEPING THE LAKE VEWY VEWY QUIET AN STILL...
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..LET'U.S. ALL JUST SIT AND LISTEN TO THE PRESSURE...AND SEE IF THE 'LEAKS' ON THE WEIR GET WORSE...
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895.97 Amazing! Z
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Yeah, how surprising. Not.
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Be prepared to stop this video to observe the leaking gates ..

:30 huge explosions next to the wier!




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Well that was interesting. Finally a close-up of that gate belching water.

Also, I didn't know they started blasting earth even while the main spillway was falling apart. It looks like they were trying to maybe collapse material into the chasm as it was being carved out with water.
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For those who haven't heard the news.... the #OrovilleDam will be OPEN to pedestrian traffic only (bicycles and wheelchairs too) starting Saturday morning, June 29 at 0500. It will remain open to pedestrians 7 days a week 5am-11pm. Vehicles can access the area too..

But parking is only allowed in the upper overlook lot and the parking stalls near the intake structure. The dam road is NOT open to public vehicles... yet. Please enjoy the area but use caution as there is still construction traffic and workers. See you there!




Mmmkay!
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For those who haven't heard the news.... the #OrovilleDam will be OPEN to pedestrian traffic only (bicycles and wheelchairs too) starting Saturday morning, June 29 at 0500. It will remain open to pedestrians 7 days a week 5am-11pm. Vehicles can access the area too..

But parking is only allowed in the upper overlook lot and the parking stalls near the intake structure. The dam road is NOT open to public vehicles... yet. Please enjoy the area but use caution as there is still construction traffic and workers. See you there!




Mmmkay!
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That's crazy!
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SHADOW STATS (LAKE ELEVATION ESTIMATES BASED ON INFLOWS/OUTFLOWS)

DATE_TIME_PDT RES_ELE_FEET STORAGE_AF OUTFLOW_CFS INFLOW_CFS ​DIFF HOURS VOLUME CALC_ELEV DELTA
06/25/2019 04:00 895.95 3,473,976 3,950 5,020 1,070 1 3,852,000 895.96​ 0.01
06/25/2019 08:00 895.95 3,473,976 4,034 4,566 532 5 11,869,200 895.97 ​0.02
06/25/2019 11:00 895.95 3,473,976 4,073 4,568 495 8 17,982,000 895.98 ​0.03
06/25/2019 15:00 895.95 3,473,976 4,007 4,619 612 12 26,031,600 895.99​ 0.04
06/25/2019 17:00 895.95 3,473,976 4,036 5,561 1,525 14 33,667,200 896.0​0 0.05
06/25/2019 18:00 895.96 3,474,132 4,026 5,560 1,534 15 39,189,600 896.0​1 0.05
06/25/2019 21:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,021 5,156 1,135 18 47,876,400 896.0​2 0.05
06/26/2019 02:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,915 5,317 402 23 52,552,800 896.03​ 0.06
06/26/2019 07:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,900 5,313 413 28 59,670,000 896.04​ 0.07
06/26/2019 10:00 895.97 3,474,287 3,966 4,767 801 31 68,515,200 896.05​ 0.08
06/26/2019 15:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,001 4,363 362 36 74,008,800 896.06​ 0.09
06/26/2019 16:00 895.97 3,474,287 3,944 4,364 420 37 75,520,800 896.06​ 0.09
06/26/2019 17:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,811 4,407 -404 38 74,066,400 896.06​ 0.09
06/26/2019 18:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,838 4,854 16 39 74,124,000 896.06 ​0.09
06/26/2019 19:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,885 5,260 375 40 75,474,000 896.06​ 0.09
06/26/2019 20:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,874 5,269 395 41 76,896,000 896.06​ 0.09
06/26/2019 21:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,874 5,271 397 42 78,325,200 896.06​ 0.09


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You are in danger.
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He sent his son to rescue you.
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SHADOW STATS (LAKE ELEVATION ESTIMATES BASED ON INFLOWS/OUTFLOWS)

DATE_TIME_PDT RES_ELE_FEET STORAGE_AF OUTFLOW_CFS INFLOW_CFS ​DIFF HOURS VOLUME CALC_ELEV DELTA
06/25/2019 04:00 895.95 3,473,976 3,950 5,020 1,070 1 3,852,000 895.96​ 0.01
06/25/2019 08:00 895.95 3,473,976 4,034 4,566 532 5 11,869,200 895.97 ​0.02
06/25/2019 11:00 895.95 3,473,976 4,073 4,568 495 8 17,982,000 895.98 ​0.03
06/25/2019 15:00 895.95 3,473,976 4,007 4,619 612 12 26,031,600 895.99​ 0.04
06/25/2019 17:00 895.95 3,473,976 4,036 5,561 1,525 14 33,667,200 896.0​0 0.05
06/25/2019 18:00 895.96 3,474,132 4,026 5,560 1,534 15 39,189,600 896.0​1 0.05
06/25/2019 21:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,021 5,156 1,135 18 47,876,400 896.0​2 0.05
06/26/2019 02:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,915 5,317 402 23 52,552,800 896.03​ 0.06
06/26/2019 07:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,900 5,313 413 28 59,670,000 896.04​ 0.07
06/26/2019 10:00 895.97 3,474,287 3,966 4,767 801 31 68,515,200 896.05​ 0.08
06/26/2019 22:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,866 5,271 405 43 79,783,200 896.06​ 0.09
06/27/2019 00:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,034 4,821 787 45 86,720,400 896.07​ 0.10
06/27/2019 04:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,017 4,443 426 49 92,664,000 896.08​ 0.11
06/27/2019 05:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,018 4,443 425 50 94,194,000 896.09​ 0.12
06/27/2019 06:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,048 4,440 392 51 95,605,200 896.09​ 0.12


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Has anyone who knows how to do the math calculations figured how far the lake levels will be able to drop by the end of summer? If this keeps up, what's going to happen if the reservoir is still above 800' come fall?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77709828


They’ve got contracts to fulfill for water to the farmers over the summer. Interesting to see what they do then to lower the lake level
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Oh I never thought of that. They normally run the spillway don't they. One woman who lives close by said she was used to the sound of the spillway running and it was strange to not have it running.
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895.97 Amazing! Z
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Yeah, how surprising. Not.
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yeh. they've got enough troubles already without
stressing-out a rickety old dam to the max.
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Iron Mountain? The document shredding people are at #OrovilleDam? DOOM:ON!
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Has anyone who knows how to do the math calculations figured how far the lake levels will be able to drop by the end of summer? If this keeps up, what's going to happen if the reservoir is still above 800' come fall?
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They’ve got contracts to fulfill for water to the farmers over the summer. Interesting to see what they do then to lower the lake level
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Oh I never thought of that. They normally run the spillway don't they. One woman who lives close by said she was used to the sound of the spillway running and it was strange to not have it running.
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This has the potential to expose any problems they have releasing water.
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Iron Mountain? The document shredding people are at #OrovilleDam? DOOM:ON!
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Interesting
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Iron Mountain? The document shredding people are at #OrovilleDam? DOOM:ON!
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When this mess ends up in the courts, they know they will lose their jobs for all the deliberate lies and fraud. If Robert Bea and Tony Johnson and Cahills get called in as expert witnesses, it's all over for that lying Erin Mellon and her cronies. CA would hire them again in a second elsewhere so maybe job loss is not big threat. But the feds potentially throwing you in jail must cause some fear.

How much of that way over a billion to Kiewit ended up with DWR or state higher ups?

Of course they have to shred documents.

Thank God for the internet. It's all here- all the documentation of what is going on and they way they lie. They can shred all they want, but the expose of their deliberate failure to do the right thing since 2017 (and of course before) is all out there. They can hide the money maybe, but they can't hide putting all those lives at risk.

If we make it through this year and the dam holds and then we have extended drought for a decade, they may get away with it. At least in this life....there is another life to come and they will give an account to God.
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Nothing dramatic but interesting to peek at, not sure what it is picking up?
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2:55 is close to the top. Lassen on the 25th

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Way more water running down the stairs of the emergency spillway.
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2:55 is close to the top. Lassen on the 25th


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Thanks for posting ... NEAT video trip through Lassen National Park.

They just opened the road on the June 22nd, a month earlier than in 2017 which was another heavy snow year, so this video gives one a good sense of how much snow gets dumped in the Sierras in the winter. (a LOT!!) Down at Mammoth they are STILL SKIING (open until at least July 7 - may extend into August per various reports) as is closer Squaw Valley/Alpine Meadows (open until July 7th)

I have never made this drive, but it is on my list if I ever am back in that part of California during the applicable season.

GREAT summer for skiing!!

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Dam appears fine on the webcams, are you guys sure yer hyperventilating about the right one?
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the damage is underneath… and we are sure. Water and dirt and mud and concrete go SUDDENLY WHEN THEY GO after the leaks start
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SHADOW STATS (LAKE ELEVATION ESTIMATES BASED ON INFLOWS/OUTFLOWS)

DATE_TIME_PDT RES_ELE_FEET STORAGE_AF OUTFLOW_CFS INFLOW_CFS ​DIFF HOURS VOLUME CALC_ELEV DELTA
06/25/2019 04:00 895.95 3,473,976 3,950 5,020 1,070 1 3,852,000 895.96​ 0.01
06/25/2019 08:00 895.95 3,473,976 4,034 4,566 532 5 11,869,200 895.97 ​0.02
06/25/2019 11:00 895.95 3,473,976 4,073 4,568 495 8 17,982,000 895.98 ​0.03
06/25/2019 15:00 895.95 3,473,976 4,007 4,619 612 12 26,031,600 895.99​ 0.04
06/25/2019 17:00 895.95 3,473,976 4,036 5,561 1,525 14 33,667,200 896.0​0 0.05
06/25/2019 18:00 895.96 3,474,132 4,026 5,560 1,534 15 39,189,600 896.0​1 0.05
06/25/2019 21:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,021 5,156 1,135 18 47,876,400 896.0​2 0.05
06/26/2019 02:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,915 5,317 402 23 52,552,800 896.03​ 0.06
06/26/2019 07:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,900 5,313 413 28 59,670,000 896.04​ 0.07
06/26/2019 10:00 895.97 3,474,287 3,966 4,767 801 31 68,515,200 896.05​ 0.08
06/26/2019 22:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,866 5,271 405 43 79,783,200 896.06​ 0.09
06/27/2019 00:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,034 4,821 787 45 86,720,400 896.07​ 0.10
06/27/2019 04:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,017 4,443 426 49 92,664,000 896.08​ 0.11
06/27/2019 09:00 895.97 3,474,287 4,026 4,434 408 54 100,022,400 896.09​ 0.12
06/27/2019 10:00 895.97 3,474,287 3,976 4,440 464 55 101,692,800 896.10​ 0.13
06/27/2019 11:00 895.97 3,474,287 3,996 4,439 443 56 103,287,600 896.10​ 0.13


Your heavenly Father created you.

He loves you.
John 3:16

You are in danger.
Romans 3:23 and Romans 6:23

He sent his son to rescue you.
John 3:17

Ask his son to rescue you.
Romans 10:9-10

Believe in his son.

He will save you.
John 1:12
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Funny how the estimated value changes more than the determined value.

In reality it's the other way.

I think they did that to avoid websites displaying 896. Because they are coded to read that number. Same time, the other number so they can say no one was hiding it. I don't know, it's Goofy and VERY suspicious
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They pulled at least 2 sections of beam out from under the road this morning.

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Dam appears fine on the webcams, are you guys sure yer hyperventilating about the right one?
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the damage is underneath… and we are sure. Water and dirt and mud and concrete go SUDDENLY WHEN THEY GO after the leaks start
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Yes they do. The Baldwin Hills Reservoir collapse happened on December 14th 1963, the day my wife was born. Her mom was in labor a few miles away in San Fernando when this occurred.

Due to oil pumping and building a reservoir on fault lines.

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06/27/2019 04:30 PM
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Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed
895.97 Amazing! Z
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77571162


Yeah, how surprising. Not.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Those guys are absolute magicians! Not even a 1/100th of an inch change for hours or days on end.





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