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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severly Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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[link to maps.conservation.ca.gov]

Just type in Lake Oroville in the search bar. Those black lines are earthquake faults...that we know about.
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The elevation is down a couple of feet this AM.

It makes me feel a little bit better. The whole thing is shaking and trembling. Not a good feeling. This dam is dying.
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Still tripping on your observations about how the dam felt.i trust that kind of intuitive actual experience more than most units of measurement. I am the type of person that wants to feel it for myself. Scary with the earthquakes tho.
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[link to maps.conservation.ca.gov]

Just type in Lake Oroville in the search bar. Those black lines are earthquake faults...that we know about.
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...and zoom in about three clicks.
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Dutch explains energy passes/travels along plate boundaries. I time linked to where today he discusses this ( Cali 6.5). ORV is not, repeat NOT on a superhighway of energy release so that's good: [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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finishing the Dutchsinse today's cali 6.5 eq. he thinks the energy goes out east.
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finishing the Dutchsinse today's cali 6.5 eq. he thinks the energy goes out east.
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Huh. In retesting. Going to get on there soon. Watched him for a few years and he is usually right.
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however Dutch does say there is a possibility for a much stronger eq than the 6.5 to hit the area that Orv Dam is in: [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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however Dutch does say there is a possibility for a much stronger eq than the 6.5 to hit the area that Orv Dam is in: [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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however Dutch does say there is a possibility for a much stronger eq than the 6.5 to hit the area that Orv Dam is in: [link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Holy spitballs!!!
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That was supposed to be shitballs
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Lassen ( Shasta Dam) is a volcanic area. Dutch says eq energy releases near volcanos and drilling sites. Today's Cali 6.5 was on a double whammy area; ancient volcano that had been man drilled for geothermal energy. Sacramento could still be in trouble if the energy being released moves up to the Lassen area. ORV is built on natural faults so it's still a situation worth monitoring imo. It ain't over.....
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Lassen ( Shasta Dam) is a volcanic area. Dutch says eq energy releases near volcanos and drilling sites. Today's Cali 6.5 was on a double whammy area; ancient volcano that had been man drilled for geothermal energy. Sacramento could still be in trouble if the energy being released moves up to the Lassen area. ORV is built on natural faults so it's still a situation worth monitoring imo. It ain't over.....
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We are camp fire survivors living pretty much right on the mount Shasta so....
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Lassen ( Shasta Dam) is a volcanic area. Dutch says eq energy releases near volcanos and drilling sites. Today's Cali 6.5 was on a double whammy area; ancient volcano that had been man drilled for geothermal energy. Sacramento could still be in trouble if the energy being released moves up to the Lassen area. ORV is built on natural faults so it's still a situation worth monitoring imo. It ain't over.....
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Also lassen affects oroville more.i would keep a good eye on the almanor area that is right by lassen
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Dutchsinse just did a 30 minute utube on Cali Seismic events undergoing NOW! [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Cali is getting CREAMED, mostly 2+-4+.

Today's ORV Seismic Data: [link to earthquake.usgs.gov (secure)]
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this is most likely the siesmograms picking up the quake.. and not necessarily something that might bother oroville… Seismograms pick up nearby quakes and 6+ quakes are picked up for LONG distances… and 7+ are picked up over the entire world.
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yes. but Cali is getting CREAMED. Only takes one in the chain above ORV.
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todays activity has NADA to do with Oroville… I did review the faults there.. not connection.
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SHADOW STATS (LAKE ELEVATION ESTIMATES BASED ON REPORTED INFLOWS/OUTFLOWS)

DATE_TIME_PDT RES_ELE_FEET STORAGE_AF OUTFLOW_CFS INFLOW_CFS ​DIFF HOURS VOLUME CALC_ELEV DELTA
06/30/2019 08:00 895.19 3,462,133 7,501 4,051 -3,450 0 0 895.95 0.76
06/30/2019 23:00 894.91 3,457,777 7,493 6,859 -563 15 -179,456,400 895.​69 0.78
07/01/2019 23:00 894.35 3,449,078 7,463 5,509 -1,954 39 -546,865,200 89​5.17 0.82
07/02/2019 23:00 893.76 3,439,930 8,780 5,062 -3,718 63 -937,850,400 89​4.60 0.84
07/03/2019 23:00 893.19 3,431,108 7,527 5,604 -1,923 87 -1,294,927,200 ​894.09 0.90
07/04/2019 00:00 893.15 3,430,490 7,506 2,982 -4,524 88 -1,311,213,600 ​894.07 0.92
07/04/2019 01:00 893.13 3,430,180 7,408 2,234 -5,174 89 -1,329,840,000 ​894.04 0.91
07/04/2019 02:00 893.12 3,430,025 7,494 3,902 -3,592 90 -1,342,771,200 ​894.02 0.90
07/04/2019 03:00 893.09 3,429,562 7,532 3,688 -3,844 91 -1,356,609,600 ​894.00 0.91
07/04/2019 04:00 893.07 3,429,252 7,539 2,772 -4,767 92 -1,373,770,800 ​893.98 0.91
07/04/2019 05:00 893.03 3,428,634 7,444 2,242 -5,202 93 -1,392,498,000 ​893.95 0.92
07/04/2019 06:00 893.02 3,428,480 7,537 2,740 -4,797 94 -1,409,767,200 ​893.93 0.91
07/04/2019 07:00 892.99 3,428,016 7,525 3,865 -3,660 95 -1,422,943,200 ​893.91 0.92
07/04/2019 08:00 892.96 3,427,553 7,534 1,791 -5,743 96 -1,443,618,000 ​893.88 0.92
07/04/2019 09:00 892.94 3,427,244 7,525 2,211 -5,314 97 -1,462,748,400 ​893.85 0.91
07/04/2019 10:00 892.90 3,426,626 7,534 2,879 -4,655 98 -1,479,506,400 ​893.83 0.93
07/04/2019 11:00 892.86 3,426,007 7,465 1,006 -6,459 99 -1,502,758,800 ​893.79 0.93
07/04/2019 12:00 892.84 3,425,699 7,560 969 -6,591 100 -1,526,486,400 8​93.76 0.92
07/04/2019 13:00 892.81 3,425,235 7,553 2,339 -5,214 101 -1,545,256,800 ​893.73 0.92


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todays activity has NADA to do with Oroville… I did review the faults there.. not connection.


yes, exactly. but Dutch explained ( i provided time stamped link) that the energy has not released. it can and should go out east but it could go to be released in an area that includes Shasta, Almanor and all the dams above.
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where are the good live streams of quake coverage? Dutch has his live thing on but not really anything going on and I can't find a good ridgeview news live stream. thanks. please keep me posted on all things EQ and dam related. hard to keep up when cooking etc
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I was supposed to be in butte county again today. Glad I am not. I don’t want to be anywhere near under Shasta or oroville dam when we are having a big EQ swarm. I “felt” the 4th of July doom coming all week but thought it would be more a false flag event. I guess we will see how the day goes. Happy 4th everyone and stay safe and keep your floaties handy haha
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It is probably a good day to be elsewhere.

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I was supposed to be in butte county again today. Glad I am not. I don’t want to be anywhere near under Shasta or oroville dam when we are having a big EQ swarm. I “felt” the 4th of July doom coming all week but thought it would be more a false flag event. I guess we will see how the day goes. Happy 4th everyone and stay safe and keep your floaties handy haha
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It is probably a good day to be elsewhere.

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stay safe mr crunch and have a good day. wish us luck on this big volcano haha. :D
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I was supposed to be in butte county again today. Glad I am not. I don’t want to be anywhere near under Shasta or oroville dam when we are having a big EQ swarm. I “felt” the 4th of July doom coming all week but thought it would be more a false flag event. I guess we will see how the day goes. Happy 4th everyone and stay safe and keep your floaties handy haha
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It is probably a good day to be elsewhere.

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stay safe mr crunch and have a good day. wish us luck on this big volcano haha. :D
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Middle of Dutch's 'not a livestream' report on Cali 6.5 where he talks about where the yet to be released energy can go: [link to youtu.be (secure)]

I didn't care for his livestream. Dutch will definitley be bringing us updates.
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yeah, not big on his live stream either tho i do keep hearing the constant aftershock dings.

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Best wishes to all of you in harm's way.
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There is still a ton of energy not released yet. Where it goes...... [link to www.emsc-csem.org (secure)]
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I wonder if the lake sloshed around any like the pools did in LA and Las Vegas. If you get a bigger closer one it could possibly cause one or more of the gates to be taken out by sloshing then they couldn't control the outflow anymore and the dam could start vibrating too much once again. I think they are too afraid to open the gates because it get out of control vibration wise if they could get the gates closed back up.
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I wonder if the lake sloshed around any like the pools did in LA and Las Vegas. If you get a bigger closer one it could possibly cause one or more of the gates to be taken out by sloshing then they couldn't control the outflow anymore and the dam could start vibrating too much once again. I think they are too afraid to open the gates because it get out of control vibration wise if they could get the gates closed back up.
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Seismic activity #OrovilleDam M 6.4 in Ridgecrest, Southern California 10:30 AM PDT. Also strongly registering: M 6.2 off Canadian coast last night, 9:30 PM PDT.


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Check this out:

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Oroville Dam is also at seismic risk
POSTED ON FEBRUARY 14, 2017

quote: "When a dam is filled, water slowly diffuses into the bedrock, finding its way into faults and fractures, where it jacks up the pore pressure. This increase makes faults more slippery, reducing the friction that otherwise keeps faults locked, and so makes faults more susceptible to failure."

"Because of the fault geometry at Oroville, calculations by Bell and Nur (1978) suggest that the weight of the water actually clamps the fault, inhibiting failure. But the slow diffusion of the water into the fault zone, which takes years to build up, ends up promoting quakes. This could be another reason for the quake delay. The rapid draining and subsequent filling of Lake Oroville from July 1974 to January 1975 could also have caused crustal weakening from the built up pore pressure."

"An interesting question is whether after 5 years of drought, the large and rapid refilling of the Lake this winter—from 1/3 full to brim full—could set the stage for future induced earthquakes at the Lake."
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MILLERTON ..FRIANT DAM AT 100 PERCENT...HAS BACK OFF A TAD...WTF IS GONG ON THERE AT THAT ONE...?..WHY DONT THEY RELEASE?!?!..
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892.77

STILL AT 120% OF HISTORICAL AVERAGE!!!...
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MILLERTON ..FRIANT DAM AT 100 PERCENT...HAS BACK OFF A TAD...WTF IS GONG ON THERE AT THAT ONE...?..WHY DONT THEY RELEASE?!?!..
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Because every gallon stored = $$$$. CA DWR is a greed machine.
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