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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severly Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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Tropical storm warning:
Checkout the 1st posting on this page of the earthquake thread, it looks like Oroville is going get a top up if it doesn't get blown away.

Thread: Earthquake Alert~Always Updated (Page 12535)

Hopefully this tropical storm will go north of Oroville.
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Wow. Thanks.
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Here we go! OrotArds will ride

The dam is fine, but all the white trash ssi recipients think theyre engineers and dam geologists because they watch webcams and water level telemtry all day whilethey wait fer their welfare checks...
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Here we go! OrotArds will ride

The dam is fine, but all the white trash ssi recipients think theyre engineers and dam geologists because they watch webcams and water level telemtry all day whilethey wait fer their welfare checks...
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the dam is not fine... is has serious leaking issues INSIDE THE DAM itself and at the abutments...
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Here we go! OrotArds will ride

The dam is fine, but all the white trash ssi recipients think theyre engineers and dam geologists because they watch webcams and water level telemtry all day whilethey wait fer their welfare checks...
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Sure. And there is a bunch of redacted information in the Oroville Dam Needs Assessment because the dam is 'fine'.

Yeah, I feel much better now.
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56% FULL AND 92% OF HIST AVG...BUT STILL WAY TOO MUCH FOR THIS DAMMED DAM!
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776.22.....IT HAS FLATLINED FOR DAYS....BIG STORM RAINS COMING IN A COUPLE/FEW DAYS..THEN, IT GOES UP....THEY SURE HAVE LET IT GET DOWN TO 55% AND 91 OF HIST AVG...I BET THEY R LETTING EVERY DROP FROM INSIDE OF THAT THING DRIZZLE OUT.....WOW!
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776.11

THEY WANT EVERY DROP OUT B 4 THE RAINS COME!
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803.53....THEY R DRAINING THE SHIT OUT OF IT....

LOOK AT THE DAILY GRAPH AND COMPARE ...TO THE OTHER MAJOR RES. A STATISTICAL 'OUTLIER' TO SAY THE LEAST!...UH!
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[link to cdec.water.ca.gov (secure)]

Red Hat Apache. Undergoing maintenance?

Can't maintain the dam OR the website.

Eff the damn DWR.
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803.53....THEY R DRAINING THE SHIT OUT OF IT....

LOOK AT THE DAILY GRAPH AND COMPARE ...TO THE OTHER MAJOR RES. A STATISTICAL 'OUTLIER' TO SAY THE LEAST!...UH!
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56% FULL AND 92% OF HIST AVG...BUT STILL WAY TOO MUCH FOR THIS DAMMED DAM!
 Quoting: UH 76739748


776.22.....IT HAS FLATLINED FOR DAYS....BIG STORM RAINS COMING IN A COUPLE/FEW DAYS..THEN, IT GOES UP....THEY SURE HAVE LET IT GET DOWN TO 55% AND 91 OF HIST AVG...I BET THEY R LETTING EVERY DROP FROM INSIDE OF THAT THING DRIZZLE OUT.....WOW!
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776.11

THEY WANT EVERY DROP OUT B 4 THE RAINS COME!
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56% FULL AND 92% OF HIST AVG...BUT STILL WAY TOO MUCH FOR THIS DAMMED DAM!
 Quoting: UH 76739748


776.22.....IT HAS FLATLINED FOR DAYS....BIG STORM RAINS COMING IN A COUPLE/FEW DAYS..THEN, IT GOES UP....THEY SURE HAVE LET IT GET DOWN TO 55% AND 91 OF HIST AVG...I BET THEY R LETTING EVERY DROP FROM INSIDE OF THAT THING DRIZZLE OUT.....WOW!
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776.11

THEY WANT EVERY DROP OUT B 4 THE RAINS COME!
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Yeah, they have really cranked up the releases over the past few hours. Rain is supposed to start tomorrow.
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Crunch- am I correct that if you had a winter like 2017, no matter how low it goes now and how hard they run the HPP, there is no way to avoid using the spillway?
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776.22.....IT HAS FLATLINED FOR DAYS....BIG STORM RAINS COMING IN A COUPLE/FEW DAYS..THEN, IT GOES UP....THEY SURE HAVE LET IT GET DOWN TO 55% AND 91 OF HIST AVG...I BET THEY R LETTING EVERY DROP FROM INSIDE OF THAT THING DRIZZLE OUT.....WOW!
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776.11

THEY WANT EVERY DROP OUT B 4 THE RAINS COME!
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Yeah, they have really cranked up the releases over the past few hours. Rain is supposed to start tomorrow.
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775.79.....! THEY R STILL CRANKING IT OUT AS IT COMES! WTF R THEY AFRAID OF?!?!?!?!
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Bad weather on its way:

Thread: Ezekiel Storm Update: Debris Flow Warning includes parts of Santa Barbara & Goleta in/below the CaveFire into Tuesday AM w/ heavy rain!!! (Page 2)
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WE'RE NOT UHGONNA MAKE IT...UH.
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Crunch- am I correct that if you had a winter like 2017, no matter how low it goes now and how hard they run the HPP, there is no way to avoid using the spillway?
 Quoting: Prayandprepare000


Most likely. The spillway is often used during wet years. It has been dry this season so far, but it is raining like hell right now.

Low snow levels forecast for tonight and the next few days. IF they can't maintain the flood control elevation into the wet season, the main spillway will have to be used.

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Article at orovillemr.com and chicoer.com regarding concerns about the gate structure and the broken gate anchor tendons.

I am having difficulty reading it due to the paywall, but I suspect this may be what the redacted info in the Needs Assessment is about. Oroville and other dams with similar construction are having the same issue.

They don't know what to do about it or how to fix it.

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Article at orovillemr.com and chicoer.com regarding concerns about the gate structure and the broken gate anchor tendons.

I am having difficulty reading it due to the paywall, but I suspect this may be what the redacted info in the Needs Assessment is about. Oroville and other dams with similar construction are having the same issue.

They don't know what to do about it or how to fix it.
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I came across this from your suggested articles above:



Ive not watched it yet so I can't give a summary.
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I came across this from your suggested articles above:



Ive not watched it yet so I can't give a summary.
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Thank you. I got through part of it. These people waste so much time talking about managerial structural BS instead of the actual issues.
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Here are some bullshit numbers if you want to see bullshit numbers.

[link to cdec.water.ca.gov (secure)]
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Here are some bullshit numbers if you want to see bullshit numbers.

[link to cdec.water.ca.gov (secure)]
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I'm happy to see you still have a good sense of humor.
Here's wishing you a wonderful Thanks giving Crunch62.
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Insane amount of rain in the forecast
[link to www.tropicaltidbits.com (secure)]
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I'm about 15 miles downstream from the dam. CA DWR has been trying to maintain the elevation at around 850 feet (crest elevation is 900') for flood storage.

Even with the previous 50K CFS releases, the lake rose almost 10 feet in the past 24 hours. With the spillway shut down, it will rise even faster. Currently at 858 feet. 42 feet to go.

I'm having flashbacks to 1997, when they thought the dam was going to be overtopped by excessive inflow. It wasn't a fun time.
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I would have sold then
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Insane amount of rain in the forecast
[link to www.tropicaltidbits.com (secure)]
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Wow. Looks like the watershed is getting 12 inches of rain or so. Are we still saying a 12 foot rise for every inch of rain in a saturated watershed? At lower water levels the rise will be higher than at high levels with more surface area. Could this one storm top the lake?

Seems incredible. I'll try to find that metabunk link tomorrow on water levels and rain.

I dont remember ever seeing such a bad forecast.
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This was my favorite thread for so long rose
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Insane amount of rain in the forecast
[link to www.tropicaltidbits.com (secure)]
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Wow.
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Ok, here is the 2017 Oroville Dam thread from Metabunk discussing inflows and water levels. You could spend hours here if you look at links.

[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

I only went back 2 pages but I am certain that the general estimate was an inch of rain falling as rain on saturated ground would increase the lake 12 feet. The lake was probably high when they calculated that, and I think the broken spillway was running.

See post 33 (the smart administrator). The watershed is 3600 square miles. An inch as rain where 60% runs off and 40% is absorbed by the ground or falls as snow leads to a 96,000 cfs runoff all day.

What can the HPP pass? 15,000 max. That would be 80,000 cfs they can't pass. Up she goes.


This is the main thread to access all the Oville threads. It is totally utterly fantastic and we may need to go back to it the way this year is shaping up:

[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]

Obviously the old spillway and old ES facts are no longer relevant, but for weather comparisons and water levels it is a gold mine.
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Reminder to self. Page 1360.

Metabunk. 1360.

I will probably forget, lol.
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Insane amount of rain in the forecast
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Wow.
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The point of my former post with the metabunk link is that if you look at this forecast, the watershed is in yellow. You go the kink where the straight N-S CA-NV boundary takes an angle to the SE. Then go over about 1/3 of the way W to get to the dam, and the watershed is above it. It is yellow. I can't tell if it is 12 inches or 14 or what exactly, but that would be a full 24 hour day of runoff at 80,000 cfs they can't pass, for every single inch.

Now if the weather turns dry until Feb it can gradually empty. If, on the other hand, this is a weird and wacky grand solar minimum ultra wet season coming up, the dam is doomed, no question about it.

You all need to review this link:

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

"The Great Flood of 1862 was the largest flood in the recorded history of Oregon, Nevada, and California, occurring from December 1861 to January 1862, caused by an ARkStorm.

The ARkStorm dumped an equivalent of 10 feet of rainfall in California, in the form of rain and snow, over a period of 43 days."

Please, review your preps and what food you depend on from central valley. That's almost all your produce and all your nuts. If you live in a risky place, be alert. Prayers for Crunch and anybody else that applies to. May God have mercy. We will see.
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By the way that forecast is a total for the next two weeks. Roughly an inch a day. Winter has not even started.

Thank God Erin Mellon of DWR says the gates are fine and the spillway is fine. That God Juan Brown says we are all crazy. Nothing to worry about.
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THEIR STUPID CHART WORKS..IT'S UP AT LEAST...54% AND 90%...
AT LEAST THEY GOT IT THAT LOW...MAY BE THE LOWEST IT EVER GETS UNTIL IT BREACHES....PRAY 4 EXTREME DROUGHT SO THAT IT CAN GO BELOW THIS IN 2020!...UN-SAFE AT ANY SPEED! THIS DAM
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It's dam break season again?...GEO's thread will never die as long as there are broken dams!





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