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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severly Damaged/Eroded. New Spillway May Be Used Soon

 
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Look at the snowpack, why in the world are they loading up Oroville with this much time left in the rainy season.

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I didn't know anything about the San Luis dam so I looked it up.

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This is insane, that the dam even still exists. If you live in the path of a collapse, it sounds like if, not when.
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AND IT HAD A 'SLIDE' BACK IN '11......THIS MAY END UP GETTING ITS OWN THREAD SHOOON....

CHECK EVERY HOUR ...!
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This is a very big dam, at the base of where the mountains (think San Andreas fault mountains) meet the Central Valley, one of the biggest farm valleys on the planet. The valley floor is completely flat, nothing to stop the water if that dam should fail, or spill over. Crop damage alone could be catastrophic.
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I was looking at volumes of Dams above Oroville. They are close to full also.
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From one of the links above the DWR stated that they wanted Oroville at a MINIMUM of 848 by the end of March, and would take it higher if possible so as to store water for the water users and the recreational users. They did NOT say how much higher than 848 they would like to take it, but that was their MINIMUM for the end of March.

Lake Oroville is currently at 831.94 and the NET inflow (after accounting for water being released) is down to about 7,000 cf/s. LOTS of storage capacity still exists in Lake Oroville. Unless unusually heavy spring rains happen it is likely the dam/spillway will NOT be overstressed this year. (though both are NOT in great shape)

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831.94 feet at 9 pm
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3 feet a day up , with no rain and no snow melt
Snow pack 150%
Warmer weather in a week and some rain forecasted for the end of the week.
Not a problem for a while .....
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Greed makes taking chances worth it for them. Remember the last troubles they sent all their gov people to save the fish. While the dam could be seen on cam overflowing the gov was in Oroville telling the people everything was ok. The people were only helped by the local sheriff who made the call.
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Up to 65f today probable with some clear sunshine.

Will the snow melt be starting?

Then some rain Tuesday followed by days of ever higher temps.

Are they ready for this?
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03/11/2019 09:00 832.78 2,583,881 5,101 14,778 7,023 36.46 13.4
03/11/2019 10:00 832.82 2,584,387 5,106 11,652 7,005 36.46 13.4

First : up to 832.82 ft ; storage 2,584,387; outflow 5,106 ; intake low at only 11,652
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STILL NO 4PM UPDATE....IT HAS BEEN AT 542.80 FOR AWHILE NOW...THEY ONLY RAISE THE DATA BY .2 OF A FOOT...THE REAL NUMBER FROM THIS MORNING

IS LISTED AS 542.86.....AND IT WILL NEXT BE BUMPED UP TO 543.00...THAT DATA IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HOURLY NUMBERS...YOU GOTTA CLICK ON THE
'INFO' ONE....

THE KEY THING HERE IS THE STORAGE CAPACITY....IT IS 2 MIL AND 40 K..

RIGHT NOW IT IS OVER 2 MIL AND REAL CLOSE TO 30 K....SO....STAY TUNED!
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THIS IS FOR San Luis...THEY JUST PUT UP ANOTHER 542.80...WHICH IS BULLSHIT AND THE WAY THAT THEY DO IT....SO, YA GOTTA WATCH FOR THE NEXT HOUR TO SEE WHEN THEY FINALLY ADMIT THAT IT IS AT OR ABOVE 543.00....PERHAPS AS LATE AS MIDNIGHT OR NEXT MORNING WHEN THEY 'HAVE' TO PUT OUT THE DATA FROM THE ENTIRE DAY B 4!....
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BUMPING THE San Luis INFO....

IT IS MORE IMP. RIGHT NOW....

WITH ALL THE RES. FILLING UP ABOVE OROVILLE...THAT TELLS U.S. THAT THEY KNOW THAT IT IS BROKEN AND HAVE TO HOLD AS MUCH AS APOSSIBLE!...
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I don't see how California is going to make it.

Go check out Dave Hodges talk last Sunday with Paul Preston

I can't link here because his site is banned

I'll try to find the video..you're not going to believe what Paul says...FUCKING MIND BLOWING...and it's directly related to Oroville Dam
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Here it is..and they made it hard to find on his channel

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It starts at 38 minutes (the earlier part is interesting too though):


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WOW!...GOTO MIN 38 AND PUT IN 15 MINS OR A TAD LESS!
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BUMP...
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...


TOP ONE WOIKS FINE...WE R GONNA B OVER 811 AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR!
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BUMP THE CDEC.
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SAN LUIS LEVEL WAS BUMPED UP AGAIN 'LAST HOUR'!!!
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.HEY GANG.....BEEN A WILD RIDE FOR OROVILLE OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS..


BUT San Luis IS AT 99% AND GROWING....IT HAS LESS THAN 14K OF STORAGE SAPCE....AND THEN. ......?!?!?!?!

NEW DATA IS LESS THAN 20 MINS AWAY!
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HEY GANG...BAD NEWS...THEY R HIDING THE REAL DATA NOW FROM San Luis
THEY SHOW ZERO INCREASE IN ACRE FEET OF STORAGE FROM YESTERDAY!
THEY R CAPPING IT AT 2 MIL AND 26K AND CHANGE...

CANNOT GET OUT FLOW NUMBERS....THEY R NOT GONNA LET IT EVER READ 543 FEET!.....THIS IS NOT GOOD...PROVES THAT THEY DONT WANT THE DATA OUT..!!!
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STILL NO 4PM UPDATE....IT HAS BEEN AT 542.80 FOR AWHILE NOW...THEY ONLY RAISE THE DATA BY .2 OF A FOOT...THE REAL NUMBER FROM THIS MORNING

IS LISTED AS 542.86.....AND IT WILL NEXT BE BUMPED UP TO 543.00...THAT DATA IS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HOURLY NUMBERS...YOU GOTTA CLICK ON THE
'INFO' ONE....

THE KEY THING HERE IS THE STORAGE CAPACITY....IT IS 2 MIL AND 40 K..

RIGHT NOW IT IS OVER 2 MIL AND REAL CLOSE TO 30 K....SO....STAY TUNED!
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THIS IS FOR San Luis...THEY JUST PUT UP ANOTHER 542.80...WHICH IS BULLSHIT AND THE WAY THAT THEY DO IT....SO, YA GOTTA WATCH FOR THE NEXT HOUR TO SEE WHEN THEY FINALLY ADMIT THAT IT IS AT OR ABOVE 543.00....PERHAPS AS LATE AS MIDNIGHT OR NEXT MORNING WHEN THEY 'HAVE' TO PUT OUT THE DATA FROM THE ENTIRE DAY B 4!....
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BUMPING THE San Luis INFO....

IT IS MORE IMP. RIGHT NOW....

WITH ALL THE RES. FILLING UP ABOVE OROVILLE...THAT TELLS U.S. THAT THEY KNOW THAT IT IS BROKEN AND HAVE TO HOLD AS MUCH AS APOSSIBLE!...
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Here is some drone footage of Santa Margarita Lake..which is 109% capacity


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Here is some drone footage of Santa Margarita Lake..which is 109% capacity


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ALL THE WAY UP TO THE SHORE!
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Here's some flooding going on from the Shasta and Keswick releases.

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Here's some flooding going on from the Shasta and Keswick releases.

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VERY GOOD TO LET YA KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO DUMP!
MORE COMING!...NEW NUMBERS SHOULD BE UP FOR THE HOUR...San Luis IS STILL PROB. HIDING THE REAL INFO!!! SEE ABOVE POSTS...
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YEP...YET ANOTHER HOUR WHERE THE San Luis FUCKS SAY THAT EVERYTING IS STILL SITTIN RIGHT AT 542.80....FUCKIN LIARS! TWO DAYS IN A ROW...AND THEY SAY THE STORAGE IS EXACTLY AT THE SAME LEVEL...BULLSHIT!!!!
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Lying crooks built those dams so, no surprise lying crooks control them.
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More possible rain on the way next Tuesday-Wed
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The heavy seep from yesterday seems to have dried up? Lake level is now 833.9 feet, 20 ft up the gates; so the seep is there… right? Lots of activity on R side of spillway this early morning. #OrovilleDam
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Interesting. They sandbagged across the whole spillway. Heavier seep in middle. Maybe they also sandbagged on R & L further back, out of sight? Why? Hard hats still conferring on top of gates. #OrovilleDam
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San Luis Reservoir Data
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DATE / TIME
PDT RES ELE
FEET
03/11/2019 20:00 542.80
03/11/2019 21:00 542.80
03/11/2019 22:00 542.80
03/11/2019 23:00 542.80
03/12/2019 00:00 542.80
03/12/2019 01:00 542.80
03/12/2019 02:00 542.80
03/12/2019 03:00 542.80
03/12/2019 04:00 542.80
03/12/2019 05:00 542.80
03/12/2019 06:00 542.80
03/12/2019 07:00 542.80
[link to cdec.water.ca.gov]
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The heavy seep from yesterday seems to have dried up? Lake level is now 833.9 feet, 20 ft up the gates; so the seep is there… right? Lots of activity on R side of spillway this early morning. #OrovilleDam
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Interesting. They sandbagged across the whole spillway. Heavier seep in middle. Maybe they also sandbagged on R & L further back, out of sight? Why? Hard hats still conferring on top of gates. #OrovilleDam
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that's interesting
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Millions of Californians' water bills could climb after Trump's FEMA won't pay $300 million for Oroville Dam

Millions of Californians could end up with higher water bills after the Trump administration on Friday announced that federal emergency officials aren't going to reimburse the state for $306 million in repairs to Oroville Dam stemming from the 2017 spillway crisis.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency said federal taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for problems that existed prior to a massive hole forming in the dam's concrete spillway in February 2017, eventually prompting the two-day evacuation of 188,000 downstream residents and a $1.1 billion emergency response and repair job.

Oroville Dam -- the nation's tallest -- is operated by a state agency, but it was built and maintained using funds from agricultural and urban water agencies that store water at Lake Oroville, such as the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California.Metropolitan supplies water to more than 19 million people, whose water bills could rise if the federal government decides not to pay. In total, Oroville Dam water for 27 million Californians. . .
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Millions of Californians' water bills could climb after Trump's FEMA won't pay $300 million for Oroville Dam

Millions of Californians could end up with higher water bills after the Trump administration on Friday announced that federal emergency officials aren't going to reimburse the state for $306 million in repairs to Oroville Dam stemming from the 2017 spillway crisis.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency said federal taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for problems that existed prior to a massive hole forming in the dam's concrete spillway in February 2017, eventually prompting the two-day evacuation of 188,000 downstream residents and a $1.1 billion emergency response and repair job.

Oroville Dam -- the nation's tallest -- is operated by a state agency, but it was built and maintained using funds from agricultural and urban water agencies that store water at Lake Oroville, such as the Metropolitan Water District of Southern California.Metropolitan supplies water to more than 19 million people, whose water bills could rise if the federal government decides not to pay. In total, Oroville Dam water for 27 million Californians. . .
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GOOD ... BUT ... WHY should the rest of the country PAY ANYTHING for the California DWR's mismanagement of the Oroville Dam and Lake?

Californians should absorb the ENTIRE cost of the fiasco, not force taxpayers in Iowa, Tennessee, Oklahoma, Alabama etc. pay for incompetent management by a California State Agency!!
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The heavy seep from yesterday seems to have dried up? Lake level is now 833.9 feet, 20 ft up the gates; so the seep is there… right? Lots of activity on R side of spillway this early morning. #OrovilleDam
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Interesting. They sandbagged across the whole spillway. Heavier seep in middle. Maybe they also sandbagged on R & L further back, out of sight? Why? Hard hats still conferring on top of gates. #OrovilleDam
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wow, site worth checking.

Releases from Hyatt PP stopped.

In between new spillway slabs are gutters that can lead to cavitation.

Seeps going on now.

Sounds ominous, but what do I know.

A great book to understand cavitation is The Emerald Mile, the part about Glen Canyon lake Powell dam. A fabulous read. The spring of 1983 when it came close to disaster. Anybody interested in this thread would enjoy reading that book.
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San Luis Reservoir Data
Earlier

DATE / TIME
PDT RES ELE
FEET
03/11/2019 20:00 542.80
03/11/2019 21:00 542.80
03/11/2019 22:00 542.80
03/11/2019 23:00 542.80
03/12/2019 00:00 542.80
03/12/2019 01:00 542.80
03/12/2019 02:00 542.80
03/12/2019 03:00 542.80
03/12/2019 04:00 542.80
03/12/2019 05:00 542.80
03/12/2019 06:00 542.80
03/12/2019 07:00 542.80
[link to cdec.water.ca.gov]
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THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS UP HERE...
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San Luis Reservoir Data
Earlier

DATE / TIME
PDT RES ELE
FEET
03/11/2019 20:00 542.80
03/11/2019 21:00 542.80
03/11/2019 22:00 542.80
03/11/2019 23:00 542.80
03/12/2019 00:00 542.80
03/12/2019 01:00 542.80
03/12/2019 02:00 542.80
03/12/2019 03:00 542.80
03/12/2019 04:00 542.80
03/12/2019 05:00 542.80
03/12/2019 06:00 542.80
03/12/2019 07:00 542.80
[link to cdec.water.ca.gov]
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THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS UP HERE...
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ITS BEEN OVER TWO DAYS NOW...SAME DATA....NO DATA AVAIL ON INFLOWS OR OUTFLOWS....

THEY SHOW 542.8....BUT THEY SHOWED 542.86 FOR DAYS TOO....

AND ULTIMATE CAPACITY IS LISTED ELSEWHERE AS 2,041,000 ACRE FEET...

TALK ABOUT A CONSPIRACY San Luis...HOW BOUT SOME DATA!?
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The heavy seep from yesterday seems to have dried up? Lake level is now 833.9 feet, 20 ft up the gates; so the seep is there… right? Lots of activity on R side of spillway this early morning. #OrovilleDam
Image
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14h
Interesting. They sandbagged across the whole spillway. Heavier seep in middle. Maybe they also sandbagged on R & L further back, out of sight? Why? Hard hats still conferring on top of gates. #OrovilleDam
Image
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more posts at this link. Amazing thread to scroll down.