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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severly Damaged/Eroded. New Spillway May Be Used Soon

 
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How often does the spill way seep?

Is this spillway going to fail? is the hill sliding after putting all the weight of the new spillway on it ?
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How often does the spill way seep?

Is this spillway going to fail? is the hill sliding after putting all the weight of the new spillway on it ?
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Well...lot of statements NOW saying the gates supposed to seep??????

As far as I remember, this was not the case previously.

There was no mention of gate seeping being normal in the reporting of the near failure of Oroville dam that I recall.

Please correct me if I have a faulty memory.

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How often does the spill way seep?

Is this spillway going to fail? is the hill sliding after putting all the weight of the new spillway on it ?
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Because of lack of maintenance the gate seals were allowed to degrade and pack with mud and debris. Some to the point of seal components being broken. Less than proper repair was made on some seals. The motors that move the gates short out at any jams or stuck gates. They were not designed to be water tight but, neither were they designed to leak as bad as is being seen now.
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Some of the problems are talked about here.
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This is the single most important article for every Californian downstream to read, and every American who eats fruits, vegetables, or nuts. Central valley is the greatest growing region in the world for them.

The risk of the gates failing cannot be over exaggerated.
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about the gates.....you need to read this.


About the spillway....it is anchored into the bedrock. Any problems will be from joints on the surface that produce cavitation, which is like water hammers of immense pressure from air bubbles that come from rough spots, and start to break up cement below. Look up cavitation. A bump of concrete the size of a walnut can lead to holes as big as a building.
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Per a DNR press release (link several pages back) they want the lake at a MINIMUM of 848 at the end of March.

They also say they will take it HIGHER if they can so as to store more water. How high they would let it go they did not say.

The real problem is heavy heavy rains in March going into April in conjunction with the lower elevation snow melt. That is what happened a couple of years ago.

If the season rains end with no final heavy multi day /multi week push they should be OK.

IF those heavy late season rains DO come then there can also be problems with the dams up in Montanna/S. Dakota on the Missouri River tributaries. One of those in particular is on the HIGH RISK list (as is Oroville and the Glen Canyon Dam on the Colorado)
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hi
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The fact that they are not even doing a test of the spillway right now... this sets off alarm bells.
Oroville is at 836 feet and they were supposed to open spillway at 835 feet.

Can the spillway even be opened?
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Spillway
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Possibly the spill way is not ready for use; and they are trying to fix the spillway and reinforce the side walls.
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San Luis Reservoir Data
Earlier

DATE / TIME
PDT RES ELE
FEET
03/11/2019 20:00 542.80
03/11/2019 21:00 542.80
03/11/2019 22:00 542.80
03/11/2019 23:00 542.80
03/12/2019 00:00 542.80
03/12/2019 01:00 542.80
03/12/2019 02:00 542.80
03/12/2019 03:00 542.80
03/12/2019 04:00 542.80
03/12/2019 05:00 542.80
03/12/2019 06:00 542.80
03/12/2019 07:00 542.80
[link to cdec.water.ca.gov]
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THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS UP HERE...
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ITS BEEN OVER TWO DAYS NOW...SAME DATA....NO DATA AVAIL ON INFLOWS OR OUTFLOWS....

THEY SHOW 542.8....BUT THEY SHOWED 542.86 FOR DAYS TOO....

AND ULTIMATE CAPACITY IS LISTED ELSEWHERE AS 2,041,000 ACRE FEET...

TALK ABOUT A CONSPIRACY San Luis...HOW BOUT SOME DATA!?
 Quoting: UH 76372983


THESE SHITBAGS R STILL FUCKIN WIFF THE DATA....THEY RAISED IT A TAD...
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More rain for a few days after this next week. So I would imagine we wont see much happen for at least a week.
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836.52 ft
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I see conflicting weather reports.
Is it raining at Oroville now or not?
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I see conflicting weather reports.
Is it raining at Oroville now or not?
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No. Rain is possible midweek next week.
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hi
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San Luis Reservoir Data
Earlier

DATE / TIME
PDT RES ELE
FEET
03/11/2019 20:00 542.80
03/11/2019 21:00 542.80
03/11/2019 22:00 542.80
03/11/2019 23:00 542.80
03/12/2019 00:00 542.80
03/12/2019 01:00 542.80
03/12/2019 02:00 542.80
03/12/2019 03:00 542.80
03/12/2019 04:00 542.80
03/12/2019 05:00 542.80
03/12/2019 06:00 542.80
03/12/2019 07:00 542.80
[link to cdec.water.ca.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75545597


still no change, San Luis Reservoir
DATE / TIME
PDT RES ELE
FEET
03/14/2019 03:00 542.80
03/14/2019 04:00 542.80
03/14/2019 05:00 542.80
03/14/2019 06:00 542.80
03/14/2019 07:00 542.80
03/14/2019 08:00 542.80
03/14/2019 09:00 542.80
03/14/2019 10:00 542.80
03/14/2019 11:00 542.80
03/14/2019 12:00 542.80
03/14/2019 13:00 542.80
03/14/2019 14:00 542.80
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Supposed to rain quite a bit next week.
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837.01 feet at 6 pm
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California Is Drought Free After Very Wet Winter — a First in More Than 7 Years, Officials Say:

“California is free of drought for the first time in more than seven years and only a small amount of its territory remains abnormally dry as a very wet winter winds down, experts said Thursday. More than 93 percent of the state is free of drought or dryness, and areas of abnormal dryness along the Oregon border and in parts of four southern counties amount to less than 7 percent of the state, the U.S. Drought Monitor said in its weekly update. ...
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Personnel Lawsuits by Employees at Oroville Dam Get Legal Go Ahead!
n March 15, 2019.

Sacramento Superior Court Judge James McFetridge this week made a decision to let Oroville Dam lawsuits to go forward, setting the stage to examine in court charges of claims of a poisonous work cultures that may have comprised the Oroville Dam, the nation’s tallest dam, and may have contributed to the near catastrophic failure of the dam’s spillway system two years ago. 200 thousand residents were forced to evacuate the downstream river system as water rose over the spillway and over the basic structure of the dam and witnessed major erosion of land, rock and tree debris threatening the electrical generation systems fed by the dam.. .
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The fact that they are not even doing a test of the spillway right now... this sets off alarm bells.
Oroville is at 836 feet and they were supposed to open spillway at 835 feet.

Can the spillway even be opened?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73469899


There is work on a bridge south of oroville in the town of Yuba City.
It would not be smart to dump water right now.
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San Luis Reservoir Data
Earlier

DATE / TIME
PDT RES ELE
FEET
03/11/2019 20:00 542.80
03/11/2019 21:00 542.80
03/11/2019 22:00 542.80
03/11/2019 23:00 542.80
03/12/2019 00:00 542.80
03/12/2019 01:00 542.80
03/12/2019 02:00 542.80
03/12/2019 03:00 542.80
03/12/2019 04:00 542.80
03/12/2019 05:00 542.80
03/12/2019 06:00 542.80
03/12/2019 07:00 542.80
[link to cdec.water.ca.gov]
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still no change, San Luis Reservoir
DATE / TIME
PDT RES ELE
FEET
03/14/2019 03:00 542.80
03/14/2019 04:00 542.80
03/14/2019 05:00 542.80
03/14/2019 06:00 542.80
03/14/2019 07:00 542.80
03/14/2019 08:00 542.80
03/14/2019 09:00 542.80
03/14/2019 10:00 542.80
03/14/2019 11:00 542.80
03/14/2019 12:00 542.80
03/14/2019 13:00 542.80
03/14/2019 14:00 542.80
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75545597


STILL THE FUCKIN SAME....COCKSUCKERS!!!!..
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San Luis Reservoir Data
Earlier

DATE / TIME
PDT RES ELE
FEET
03/11/2019 20:00 542.80
03/11/2019 21:00 542.80
03/11/2019 22:00 542.80
03/11/2019 23:00 542.80
03/12/2019 00:00 542.80
03/12/2019 01:00 542.80
03/12/2019 02:00 542.80
03/12/2019 03:00 542.80
03/12/2019 04:00 542.80
03/12/2019 05:00 542.80
03/12/2019 06:00 542.80
03/12/2019 07:00 542.80
[link to cdec.water.ca.gov]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75545597


THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS UP HERE...
 Quoting: UH 76372983


ITS BEEN OVER TWO DAYS NOW...SAME DATA....NO DATA AVAIL ON INFLOWS OR OUTFLOWS....

THEY SHOW 542.8....BUT THEY SHOWED 542.86 FOR DAYS TOO....

AND ULTIMATE CAPACITY IS LISTED ELSEWHERE AS 2,041,000 ACRE FEET...

TALK ABOUT A CONSPIRACY San Luis...HOW BOUT SOME DATA!?
 Quoting: UH 76372983


THESE SHITBAGS R STILL FUCKIN WIFF THE DATA....THEY RAISED IT A TAD...
 Quoting: UH 76372983
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838.16 feet
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The fact that they are not even doing a test of the spillway right now... this sets off alarm bells.
Oroville is at 836 feet and they were supposed to open spillway at 835 feet.

Can the spillway even be opened?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73469899


There is work on a bridge south of oroville in the town of Yuba City.
It would not be smart to dump water right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75876963


Don't know where you got the 835 foot level. The DNR has publicly said that they want the lake at a MINIMUM of 848 at the end of March, and if possible want it higher than that by the end of the season though they gave no maximum height.

There is a link to their Press Release on that issue 3 or 4 pages back.
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The fact that they are not even doing a test of the spillway right now... this sets off alarm bells.
Oroville is at 836 feet and they were supposed to open spillway at 835 feet.

Can the spillway even be opened?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73469899


There is work on a bridge south of oroville in the town of Yuba City.
It would not be smart to dump water right now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75876963


Don't know where you got the 835 foot level. The DNR has publicly said that they want the lake at a MINIMUM of 848 at the end of March, and if possible want it higher than that by the end of the season though they gave no maximum height.

There is a link to their Press Release on that issue 3 or 4 pages back.
 Quoting: Midwest Skeptic


They can open it at 835, nobody said they supposed to. LOL
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Maybe this week the spillway will be tested? More snow/rain on the way
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...


THANKS FOR PUTTING THIS UP HERE...
 Quoting: UH 76372983


ITS BEEN OVER TWO DAYS NOW...SAME DATA....NO DATA AVAIL ON INFLOWS OR OUTFLOWS....

THEY SHOW 542.8....BUT THEY SHOWED 542.86 FOR DAYS TOO....

AND ULTIMATE CAPACITY IS LISTED ELSEWHERE AS 2,041,000 ACRE FEET...

TALK ABOUT A CONSPIRACY San Luis...HOW BOUT SOME DATA!?
 Quoting: UH 76372983


THESE SHITBAGS R STILL FUCKIN WIFF THE DATA....THEY RAISED IT A TAD...
 Quoting: UH 76372983

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HEY!! UPDATE UPDATE UPDATE....THEY BUMPED IT UP FOUR 4 FOUR FUCKIN FEET...A FEW TIMES....THEY SNUCK IT IN THERE FROM
542.80 TO 546.80.....WHERE DID THAT WATER COME FROM?!?!

GO CHECK THE DATA...SNEAKY SHIT GOIN ON AT SAN LUIS!!!!!