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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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Here's another good video...this lady breaks down some problems we never even talked about here....there are actual problems with the dam itself near the e-spill....5 min video check it out.

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Here's a pretty good article from yesterday on "The Worst Case Scenario" for Oroville dam...pretty optimistic and straight forward...good explanation for new people who haven't been following as closely.


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puff piece.
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yes I am...bonghit
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so if this dam fails it cuts of Water To most of

the entire state of California including LA.


Doesn't sound like a puff piece to me
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^THIS^

Lots of thirsty folks for sure
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You're the one who is attacking ME. YOU need to chill. This is the reason I have gone all of these years without an account. It puts a target on your back.

If you want people to know who you are, grow a backbone, get an account. Otherwise, I don't know you from Adam.
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Sensitive much? I did no such thing. No insults were given.

I stated that the video you re-posted had been re-posted many times and was BS.

You're the one that came back with insults right away.
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Either this thread isn't being moderated well or there's a disinfo campaign going on. Posting diversionary media is one way to fragment a thread.
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"If dominant element is water, then use earth and highlight with wood and fire.
Do not use metal"

As elements should remain in balance
Quickly adding these above elements
Should dissipate the excess water

hf
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You would have to use a WHOLE LOT of charcoal to absorb THAT much water.

1/4 cup of activated charcoal can absorb a football field of water. I use activated charcoal for drawing poison out of wounds and bites, even severely infected ones. It's very effective and takes very, very little due to it's potent absorbency.
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Living in a valley below a dam isn't the smartest of decisions, worse is not getting away from it when you know it's failing till the thing fails.
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they cant hang this on trump as long as there is a mirror in the state. If tptb wanna see who to blame, they need look no further than the mirror.. is the bullet train hi and dry?
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I know bud: not his fault at all. But is it his RESPONSIBILITY? It California was, I dunno, holding radioactive science fairs because they all started believe cesium has healing properties, would the Feds be required to act? They did nothing to introduce the problem, but the severity of the problem is such that intervention is called for.

Freeing up disaster funds, in my analogy, is like agreeing to pay for gasoline and maybe a new car, for the kid driving through the crosswalk. You cannot equate "here is some cash" with "Get the fuck out of the car."
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So what do you think Trump should do?

I know there are things I'd like to see, but in fact maybe they are being done but not reported here.

I'd like to see actual evacuation routes that were continually updated. But maybe they are circulated at the local level.

So now it's your turn. What would you want Trump to do?
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You're the one who is attacking ME. YOU need to chill. This is the reason I have gone all of these years without an account. It puts a target on your back.

If you want people to know who you are, grow a backbone, get an account. Otherwise, I don't know you from Adam.
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Sensitive much? I did no such thing. No insults were given.

I stated that the video you re-posted had been re-posted many times and was BS.

You're the one that came back with insults right away.
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Either this thread isn't being moderated well or there's a disinfo campaign going on. Posting diversionary media is one way to fragment a thread.
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yes. there's a lot of that kind of buggerie in all the threads.
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Here's another good video...this lady breaks down some problems we never even talked about here....there are actual problems with the dam itself near the e-spill....5 min video check it out.

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Love Miss Mary...

She is always up ta date with news
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You're the one who is attacking ME. YOU need to chill. This is the reason I have gone all of these years without an account. It puts a target on your back.

If you want people to know who you are, grow a backbone, get an account. Otherwise, I don't know you from Adam.
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Sensitive much? I did no such thing. No insults were given.

I stated that the video you re-posted had been re-posted many times and was BS.

You're the one that came back with insults right away.
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Either this thread isn't being moderated well or there's a disinfo campaign going on. Posting diversionary media is one way to fragment a thread.
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I posted yesterday they changed the info in wiki about the FOURTH outflow. I have 2 posts in here. First says it was never fixed. We proved through other sources they never fixed that and now wiki says they did. Combine that with the total media blackout on this dam situation. Yesterday, they lowered the outflow A LOT, post some new pics & a drone video (ONLY DWS RELEASES) then we're right back to blackout. Not a single thing since. The numbers don't match up with what we see (rain, inflow stays same). I'm not usually the conspiracy champion but....

My bullshit radar is very high.
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You're the one who is attacking ME. YOU need to chill. This is the reason I have gone all of these years without an account. It puts a target on your back.

If you want people to know who you are, grow a backbone, get an account. Otherwise, I don't know you from Adam.
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Sensitive much? I did no such thing. No insults were given.

I stated that the video you re-posted had been re-posted many times and was BS.

You're the one that came back with insults right away.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70742102


Either this thread isn't being moderated well or there's a disinfo campaign going on. Posting diversionary media is one way to fragment a thread.
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I posted yesterday they changed the info in wiki about the FOURTH outflow. I have 2 posts in here. First says it was never fixed. We proved through other sources they never fixed that and now wiki says they did. Combine that with the total media blackout on this dam situation. Yesterday, they lowered the outflow A LOT, post some new pics & a drone video (ONLY DWS RELEASES) then we're right back to blackout. Not a single thing since. The numbers don't match up with what we see (rain, inflow stays same). I'm not usually the conspiracy champion but....

My bullshit radar is very high.
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BS usually falls away when confronted by reality. We have four months of this cliff-hanger yet to go.
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they cant hang this on trump as long as there is a mirror in the state. If tptb wanna see who to blame, they need look no further than the mirror.. is the bullet train hi and dry?
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I know bud: not his fault at all. But is it his RESPONSIBILITY? It California was, I dunno, holding radioactive science fairs because they all started believe cesium has healing properties, would the Feds be required to act? They did nothing to introduce the problem, but the severity of the problem is such that intervention is called for.

Freeing up disaster funds, in my analogy, is like agreeing to pay for gasoline and maybe a new car, for the kid driving through the crosswalk. You cannot equate "here is some cash" with "Get the fuck out of the car."
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Well, FEMA is mobilized, what else would you expect him to do? In other disasters, tell me, what have presidents done?
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You're the one who is attacking ME. YOU need to chill. This is the reason I have gone all of these years without an account. It puts a target on your back.

If you want people to know who you are, grow a backbone, get an account. Otherwise, I don't know you from Adam.
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Sensitive much? I did no such thing. No insults were given.

I stated that the video you re-posted had been re-posted many times and was BS.

You're the one that came back with insults right away.
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Either this thread isn't being moderated well or there's a disinfo campaign going on. Posting diversionary media is one way to fragment a thread.
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This is true. It seems like there is a lot of sh ills left over from the election. Looks like they are trying to dilute any important info that may turn up here. Just from this, you can deduce that there is still a high risk of the dam breaking. They would rather kill US citizens and give illegals welfare. As long as the labor markets weaken and the upper 1% get richer, they're happy.
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Has the dam overflowed the ES the second time? I saw a youtube video posted on Saturday, showing it did but don't know if it is old video.

What's the lake level today?
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they cant hang this on trump as long as there is a mirror in the state. If tptb wanna see who to blame, they need look no further than the mirror.. is the bullet train hi and dry?
 Quoting: zeker 73777996


I know bud: not his fault at all. But is it his RESPONSIBILITY? It California was, I dunno, holding radioactive science fairs because they all started believe cesium has healing properties, would the Feds be required to act? They did nothing to introduce the problem, but the severity of the problem is such that intervention is called for.

Freeing up disaster funds, in my analogy, is like agreeing to pay for gasoline and maybe a new car, for the kid driving through the crosswalk. You cannot equate "here is some cash" with "Get the fuck out of the car."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69724069


So what do you think Trump should do?

I know there are things I'd like to see, but in fact maybe they are being done but not reported here.

I'd like to see actual evacuation routes that were continually updated. But maybe they are circulated at the local level.

So now it's your turn. What would you want Trump to do?
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Generally speaking, I would declare it a Federal disaster, basically state "Cali's obvious imcompetence is going to get people killed, we're taking over. We are going to do everything we can to try and help save the situation, regardless of how we got here."

I would then bring the full weight of the Federal Government (with possibly army assets) to bear on the problem, fully brief everyone on what has been going on and what the real deal is .. provide some photos, video, and try information to people. SHOW EM HOW IT IS FUCKING DONE.

I would probably issue a "Folks, get out now or you risk your life" non mandatory evacuation, being VERY clear that it is only non-mandatory because we respect the rights of individuals to choose. You stay and die, it's on you.

Those are the broad strokes of what I would do. The idea of taking responsibility for this piece of shit disaster is scary, but, that is when leaders step up: when everyone else is shitting themselves.
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G'Mornin all. I was just looking for new info, and although this is from yesterday, it's a short clip of the MS from a different perspective that some might want to see.


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Good Morning. Thank You for that clip. I hope the worker doesn't lose his job.
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Here's another good video...this lady breaks down some problems we never even talked about here....there are actual problems with the dam itself near the e-spill....5 min video check it out.

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
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Has the dam overflowed the ES the second time? I saw a youtube video posted on Saturday, showing it did but don't know if it is old video.

What's the lake level today?
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No it hasn't. There is a FLOOD of videos posted with new dates and they're old videos.

6am local time (no newer numbers):

.92 inches rain past 12 hours

Res Lev 849.43 Outflow 59685 Inflow 45518
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yOU CAN MAKE A CANOE OUT OF YOUR HORSES. jUST HOLLOW THEM OUT LIKE in the revenant. if lenard decaprio cn do it so can you. pull their guts out, hop in and cut off their legs to use as oars.
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That is horrible..

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It's horrible, but it made me laugh, because I'm glad I missed that!
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It's just now sunrise there

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The entire valley behind it looks like a lake. :(
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Pretty clear that you are not a horse person
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A real horse person would know that the horse-canoe would never float, is that it?
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Pretty clear that you are not a horse person
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A real horse person would know that the horse-canoe would never float, is that it?
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Pretty sure it would leak through the nostrils.
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yOU CAN MAKE A CANOE OUT OF YOUR HORSES. jUST HOLLOW THEM OUT LIKE in the revenant. if lenard decaprio cn do it so can you. pull their guts out, hop in and cut off their legs to use as oars.
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That is horrible..

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It's horrible, but it made me laugh, because I'm glad I missed that!
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Interesting. Wonder how fast mr ed can go with an evinrude.
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Politically,

I jump in. Dam breaks. I tried, and for a brief moment showed how the crisis should have been dealt with from the start. More people taste real leadership, on a big stage. Cali is fucked and will be totally dependent on me to help in the recovery anyways.

I jump in. I save the day. I OWN California, politically, and once again demonstrate how inept democrats are. Maybe I wake some people up.

Outcome aside, three days of proper communication with the public is all it will take to make both California and the MSM look like complete and total idiots, and garner huge support from new classes of people.

Cali: Secrecy, fumbling ineptitude, hiding like thieves in the night.

Trump: Blackhawk helicopters, sun-class floodlights and 24/7 coverage, the best in the world, a beacon of hope in a very dark moment. "Folks, it may be too late, but we are going to go down swinging like the Americans we are."

My analysis is simplistic and easily pokeable in any number of ways, but ultimately, it's a fucking movie level opportunity. But the clock is ticking and the crisis worsens. At some point it goes from being a major opportunity to be a great leader to "where the fuck were YOU?"
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Well the water is down to 849 just like they said it would be. Where are all the water calculation tards who said we would have 50ft of water going back in??


BTW you assholes screaming about pictures and videos.....you are not fucking entitled to shit got it? Just because they don't update your sorry asses by the fucking minute does NOT make it some gigantic fucking conspiracy.
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Politically,

I jump in. Dam breaks. I tried, and for a brief moment showed how the crisis should have been dealt with from the start. More people taste real leadership, on a big stage. Cali is fucked and will be totally dependent on me to help in the recovery anyways.

I jump in. I save the day. I OWN California, politically, and once again demonstrate how inept democrats are. Maybe I wake some people up.

Outcome aside, three days of proper communication with the public is all it will take to make both California and the MSM look like complete and total idiots, and garner huge support from new classes of people.

Cali: Secrecy, fumbling ineptitude, hiding like thieves in the night.

Trump: Blackhawk helicopters, sun-class floodlights and 24/7 coverage, the best in the world, a beacon of hope in a very dark moment. "Folks, it may be too late, but we are going to go down swinging like the Americans we are."

My analysis is simplistic and easily pokeable in any number of ways, but ultimately, it's a fucking movie level opportunity. But the clock is ticking and the crisis worsens. At some point it goes from being a major opportunity to be a great leader to "where the fuck were YOU?"
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Idiot. This crisis is in a completely red area. Point the other way.

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Well the water is down to 849 just like they said it would be. Where are all the water calculation tards who said we would have 50ft of water going back in??


BTW you assholes screaming about pictures and videos.....you are not fucking entitled to shit got it? Just because they don't update your sorry asses by the fucking minute does NOT make it some gigantic fucking conspiracy.
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Living in a valley below a dam isn't the smartest of decisions, worse is not getting away from it when you know it's failing till the thing fails.
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The entire country is in hurricane, tornado, tsunami, earthquakes, fault lines, flood zones, drought, volcanoes. Pick a spot.
 Quoting: ~*Always Deplorable Lisa*~


There are many areas that have not had any of those.

yourere
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They are reducing outflow to 60 000 (from 80 000)
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901 here we come.


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Where is 901 you fucking retard?

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Living in a valley below a dam isn't the smartest of decisions, worse is not getting away from it when you know it's failing till the thing fails.
 Quoting: Daggo


The entire country is in hurricane, tornado, tsunami, earthquakes, fault lines, flood zones, drought, volcanoes. Pick a spot.
 Quoting: ~*Always Deplorable Lisa*~


There are many areas that have not had any of those.

yourere
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Largest earthquake in recorded American past is in MISSOURI. Yellowstone is past due. Seattle area has had MANY tsunamis. I'm not talking about just events that have happened recently in our tiny timeframe.





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