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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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CAP'N DO YOU SUPPOSE IT WILL BLOW OUT AT THE GREEN ACRE ON THE FACE OF THAT DAMNED DAM?

OR DO YOU SUPPOSE THE GATES WILL FAIL?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


I think the green spot will blow out someday, but the current issue is the spillway gates.

They rebuilt the whole spillway, but the gates are still fucked up. The bottom of the intake to the gates is at 813', but they won't try to use it until 830-840'.

What happens if the gates jam or tweak when they try to open them?
 Quoting: Crunch62


Thanks for the input!

Is the level any where near 830 right now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


No, it is at 808' and rising.

My neighbor works for Kiewet, the contractor. He told me the spillway was rebuilt to 3x the design capacity and should be fine. I asked him about the gates, and he just turned his head.
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CAP'N DO YOU SUPPOSE IT WILL BLOW OUT AT THE GREEN ACRE ON THE FACE OF THAT DAMNED DAM?

OR DO YOU SUPPOSE THE GATES WILL FAIL?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


I think the green spot will blow out someday, but the current issue is the spillway gates.

They rebuilt the whole spillway, but the gates are still fucked up. The bottom of the intake to the gates is at 813', but they won't try to use it until 830-840'.

What happens if the gates jam or tweak when they try to open them?
 Quoting: Crunch62


Thanks for the input!

Is the level any where near 830 right now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


No, it is at 808' and rising.

My neighbor works for Kiewet, the contractor. He told me the spillway was rebuilt to 3x the design capacity and should be fine. I asked him about the gates, and he just turned his head.
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SO...AT WHAT LEVEL DO THE GATES BEGIN TO GET IMPACTED AND WHAT IS THE LOWEST LEVEL OF THE 'GREEN SPOT?...AND WHERE DO BOTH OF THOSE WEAKNESSES GET 'IMPACTED'....AND..AS THE LEVEL GOES UP...THE PRESSURES INCREASE!....IF IT SITS ANYWHERE NEAR 900 FOR OVER A WEEK...IT GOES!!!! I SAY!!!
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CAP'N DO YOU SUPPOSE IT WILL BLOW OUT AT THE GREEN ACRE ON THE FACE OF THAT DAMNED DAM?

OR DO YOU SUPPOSE THE GATES WILL FAIL?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


I think the green spot will blow out someday, but the current issue is the spillway gates.

They rebuilt the whole spillway, but the gates are still fucked up. The bottom of the intake to the gates is at 813', but they won't try to use it until 830-840'.

What happens if the gates jam or tweak when they try to open them?
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OK..WE HAVE THIS DATA...AND THE WET SPOT IS AS LOW AS 795 ON SOME PHOTOS...?..RIGHT? MAYBE EVEN LOWER?...! NEED TO RE-CHECK AND SEE...OR LOOK NOW AT THE THING REAL CLOSE..GO OUT THERE AND SEE SOME GREEN OR 'DARK' PATCHES OR SPOTS!!
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CAP'N DO YOU SUPPOSE IT WILL BLOW OUT AT THE GREEN ACRE ON THE FACE OF THAT DAMNED DAM?

OR DO YOU SUPPOSE THE GATES WILL FAIL?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


I think the green spot will blow out someday, but the current issue is the spillway gates.

They rebuilt the whole spillway, but the gates are still fucked up. The bottom of the intake to the gates is at 813', but they won't try to use it until 830-840'.

What happens if the gates jam or tweak when they try to open them?
 Quoting: Crunch62


Thanks for the input!

Is the level any where near 830 right now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


No, it is at 808' and rising.

My neighbor works for Kiewet, the contractor. He told me the spillway was rebuilt to 3x the design capacity and should be fine. I asked him about the gates, and he just turned his head.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Good on ya, man! 5a

That head turn tells us all we need to know, doesn't it?

I imagine if the gates get blown out, then it would be game over...correct?

MY BUDDY CAP'N Of The CAPS will be all over this...this meaning the SOB'S took care of the spillway, but FAILED AT THE GATES!

What good is a 3X design improvement if the the gates are pfukt? scratching
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I think the green spot will blow out someday, but the current issue is the spillway gates.

They rebuilt the whole spillway, but the gates are still fucked up. The bottom of the intake to the gates is at 813', but they won't try to use it until 830-840'.

What happens if the gates jam or tweak when they try to open them?
 Quoting: Crunch62


Thanks for the input!

Is the level any where near 830 right now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


No, it is at 808' and rising.

My neighbor works for Kiewet, the contractor. He told me the spillway was rebuilt to 3x the design capacity and should be fine. I asked him about the gates, and he just turned his head.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Good on ya, man! 5a

That head turn tells us all we need to know, doesn't it?

I imagine if the gates get blown out, then it would be game over...correct?

MY BUDDY CAP'N Of The CAPS will be all over this...this meaning the SOB'S took care of the spillway, but FAILED AT THE GATES!

What good is a 3X design improvement if the the gates are pfukt? scratching
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


The issues with the gate head structure were documented in the annual inspection reports. As well as the green spot seepage.

Can't get close to it as all the nearby access is still closed to the public.
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This Littlepixie is ready for the Oroville "train", lets hope this baby stays on track and doesn't derail.

Thank you to all who are reporting on this thread, hang on to your panties we could be in for a long rough wet ride.

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This Littlepixie is ready for the Oroville "train", lets hope this baby stays on track and doesn't derail.

Thank you to all who are reporting on this thread, hang on to your panties we could be in for a long rough wet ride.

ohyeah
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FUNNY U SAY THAT...THEY HAVE A 'SPECIAL WEATHER BULLETIN' UP ON WEATHER.COM FOR OROVILLE SAYING THAT 'WEATHER SYSTEMS' ARE COMING IN NEXT WEEK AND 'STAYING'...JUST ABOUT
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Thanks for the input!

Is the level any where near 830 right now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


No, it is at 808' and rising.

My neighbor works for Kiewet, the contractor. He told me the spillway was rebuilt to 3x the design capacity and should be fine. I asked him about the gates, and he just turned his head.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Good on ya, man! 5a

That head turn tells us all we need to know, doesn't it?

I imagine if the gates get blown out, then it would be game over...correct?

MY BUDDY CAP'N Of The CAPS will be all over this...this meaning the SOB'S took care of the spillway, but FAILED AT THE GATES!

What good is a 3X design improvement if the the gates are pfukt? scratching
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


The issues with the gate head structure were documented in the annual inspection reports. As well as the green spot seepage.

Can't get close to it as all the nearby access is still closed to the public.
 Quoting: Crunch62


If Oroville blows, I imagine it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination to believe a series of catastrophic dam failures will be realized from Sacramento all the way through south of Shakeytown?
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On that latest blancolirio vid the bridge road over the spillway channelwas still intact with the water half up its bank. How did/will they clear all that debris? That was 19 Feb I think.

Has the road bridge been cleared? Surely by now? If it has been cleared surely they can not have dredged the channel clear with all that water flopping over the road debris.

Will all that loose gravel/sand etc cause the gates/ or help scour the channel creating problems?

Did they leave clearing the spillway channel TOO LATE? Hmmmmm

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If Oroville blows, I imagine it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination to believe a series of catastrophic dam failures will be realized from Sacramento all the way through south of Shakeytown?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


The water would head down through Sac and out the delta to the SF Bay.

LA wouldn't be affected, as the water has to be pumped up over the grapevine to get there.
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On that latest blancolirio vid the bridge road over the spillway channelwas still intact with the water half up its bank. How did/will they clear all that debris? That was 19 Feb I think.

Has the road bridge been cleared? Surely by now? If it has been cleared surely they can not have dredged the channel clear with all that water flopping over the road debris.

Will all that loose gravel/sand etc cause the gates/ or help scour the channel creating problems?

Did they leave clearing the spillway channel TOO LATE? Hmmmmm
 Quoting: mon KeyHanger


I'm not sure I understand. Local news said the contractor was removing equipment and debris from the spillway (below the gates) in case it is to be used.

Did you see debris elsewhere?
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If Oroville blows, I imagine it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination to believe a series of catastrophic dam failures will be realized from Sacramento all the way through south of Shakeytown?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


The water would head down through Sac and out the delta to the SF Bay.

LA wouldn't be affected, as the water has to be pumped up over the grapevine to get there.
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Oh, okay...thanks!

I think that Narrows dam south of Shakeytown is expected to fail. Is that correct?

I've been to Shakeytown on business on numerous occasions. I gotta say I really, really, really hate that Fkn place.

I really hope something bad happens to it.
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If Oroville blows, I imagine it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination to believe a series of catastrophic dam failures will be realized from Sacramento all the way through south of Shakeytown?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


The water would head down through Sac and out the delta to the SF Bay.

LA wouldn't be affected, as the water has to be pumped up over the grapevine to get there.
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UH...NO...MOST WOULD GO DUE SOUTH....SHORRY!
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5 PM DATA SHOULD BE COMING OUT SHOON!...
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Luckily this next Atmospheric River will mostly affect Central/Southern California.
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Luckily this next Atmospheric River will mostly affect Central/Southern California.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


..CALL IT A PINEAPPLE EXPRESS..JUST TO PISS-OFF THE P.C.

FUCKS!
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This Littlepixie is ready for the Oroville "train", lets hope this baby stays on track and doesn't derail.

Thank you to all who are reporting on this thread, hang on to your panties we could be in for a long rough wet ride.

ohyeah
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FUNNY U SAY THAT...THEY HAVE A 'SPECIAL WEATHER BULLETIN' UP ON WEATHER.COM FOR OROVILLE SAYING THAT 'WEATHER SYSTEMS' ARE COMING IN NEXT WEEK AND 'STAYING'...JUST ABOUT
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Oroville Dam/Lake data for last week as of 8 AM times (ending 8 am March 3, 2019)
[link to cdec.water.ca.gov]

Water Level has increased by 29.95' over the last week
Water Stored has increased by 321,645 Acre Feet over the last week

3/3/19 @ 8 am local time - 807.24 .... IN 21,569/cfs .. OUT .. 6,777/cfs (stored 2,274,498)
3/2/19 @ 8 am local time - 804.41 .... IN 23,499/cfs .. OUT .. 6,778/cfs
3/1/19 @ 8 am local time - 801.14 .... IN 26,619/cfs .. OUT .. 2,576/cfs
2/28/19 @ 8 am local time - 796.47 ... IN 32,371/cfs .. OUT .. 1,428/cfs
2/27/19 @ 8 am local time - 790.13 ... IN 41,476/cfs .. OUT .. unreported (1,450 estimated)
2/26/19 @ 8 am local time - 783.03 ... IN 38.538/cfs .. OUT .. unreported (1.450 estimated)
2/25/19 @ 8 am local time - 779.25 ... IN 9.077/cfs .. OUT .. 1,030/cfs
2/24/19 @ 8 am local time - 777.95 ... IN 7,744/cfs .. OUT .. 1,195/cfs (stored 1,952,853 AF)
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THIS ONE HERE...WE GOT THE LEVELS BUT NOT THE FLOWS YET.
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If Oroville blows, I imagine it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination to believe a series of catastrophic dam failures will be realized from Sacramento all the way through south of Shakeytown?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


The water would head down through Sac and out the delta to the SF Bay.

LA wouldn't be affected, as the water has to be pumped up over the grapevine to get there.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Oh, okay...thanks!

I think that Narrows dam south of Shakeytown is expected to fail. Is that correct?

I've been to Shakeytown on business on numerous occasions. I gotta say I really, really, really hate that Fkn place.

I really hope something bad happens to it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


Not sure about that LA dam. I left So Cal over 33 years ago and don't miss it.
I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
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If Oroville blows, I imagine it wouldn't be a stretch of the imagination to believe a series of catastrophic dam failures will be realized from Sacramento all the way through south of Shakeytown?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77223081


The water would head down through Sac and out the delta to the SF Bay.

LA wouldn't be affected, as the water has to be pumped up over the grapevine to get there.
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UH...NO...MOST WOULD GO DUE SOUTH....SHORRY!
 Quoting: GO LOOK AT A MAP !!! 71124740


Could flood the central valley, but not LA. The Tehachapi mountains are in the way.
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Luckily this next Atmospheric River will mostly affect Central/Southern California.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


..CALL IT A PINEAPPLE EXPRESS..JUST TO PISS-OFF THE P.C.

FUCKS!
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I do miss George Fishbeck the weather guy.
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Luckily this next Atmospheric River will mostly affect Central/Southern California.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


..CALL IT A PINEAPPLE EXPRESS..JUST TO PISS-OFF THE P.C.

FUCKS!
 Quoting: UH 71124740


I do miss George Fishbeck the weather guy.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Man, they really blew it with that evacuation last time. If there is a call for an evacuation this time, I wonder how many will comply.
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5 PM DATA SHOULD BE COMING OUT SHOON!...
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808 AND A 'TOID'...JOEY!
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The repair work done so far is temporary. It is supposed to be torn out and replaced with new permanent spillways and fix the gates after this wet season. If you look close you can see that the roller compacted material is not holding up very well.
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I think they shut down the lake webcam so we can't see what is going on.
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The repair work done so far is temporary. It is supposed to be torn out and replaced with new permanent spillways and fix the gates after this wet season. If you look close you can see that the roller compacted material is not holding up very well.
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oroville dam dream 2019 02
My view was from above the boat ramp area, I was looking down at a fast turbulate river rapids and falls.
I heard, look closer.
I narrowed my view to the rapids, I could see that it was formed from the key wall and other rubble of oro dam.
I heard, This is what the dam will look like after it fails.
My attention was then toward Oroville and the large valley. I saw mud and twisted destruction as far as I could see.
A sense of forlorn remoteness and abandonment.
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Luckily this next Atmospheric River will mostly affect Central/Southern California.
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


..CALL IT A PINEAPPLE EXPRESS..JUST TO PISS-OFF THE P.C.

FUCKS!
 Quoting: UH 71124740


I do miss George Fishbeck the weather guy.
 Quoting: Crunch62


Man, they really blew it with that evacuation last time. If there is a call for an evacuation this time, I wonder how many will comply.
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I didn't evac last time and I won't in the future unless I see a Tsunami coming down the road.
I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
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I think they shut down the lake webcam so we can't see what is going on.
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Certainly you didn't think the politicians and other like minded scum want the public to be well informed.

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On that latest blancolirio vid the bridge road over the spillway channelwas still intact with the water half up its bank. How did/will they clear all that debris? That was 19 Feb I think.

Has the road bridge been cleared? Surely by now? If it has been cleared surely they can not have dredged the channel clear with all that water flopping over the road debris.

Will all that loose gravel/sand etc cause the gates/ or help scour the channel creating problems?

Did they leave clearing the spillway channel TOO LATE? Hmmmmm
 Quoting: mon KeyHanger


I'm not sure I understand. Local news said the contractor was removing equipment and debris from the spillway (below the gates) in case it is to be used.

Did you see debris elsewhere?
 Quoting: Crunch62


no the road bridge over the spillway channel....back of the gates
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