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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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TOP ONE WOIKS FINE...WE R GONNA B OVER 811 AT THE TOP OF THE HOUR!
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SAN LUIS LEVEL WAS BUMPED UP AGAIN 'LAST HOUR'!!!
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it will be a perfect false flag, if trump ready to do something big.
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818 and a 'TOID' JOEY....

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819.05 ft at 10 pm
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Camera working now:
Seems to be something going on



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At one of those water management public meetings they said 60 mph 100 foot high wall of water at Oroville, a 30 foot high wall of water at Sacramento. You have to leave before it fails or you won't make it out likely.
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I know some have also mentioned concerns about Shasta Dam and Trinity Dam. Imagine if Oroville, Shasta, and Trinity were to break at the same time. Say good bye To Oroville, Sacramento, Redding, and everything in between, and probably everything between Sacramento and the Bay Area, as well as quite aways south of Sacramento.
Notice how the biggest fires during the part fire season were near these three dams. Coincidence? I think not.
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Camera working now:
Seems to be something going on



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Not working for me.
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I see them turning on lights. looks like cam only started working about 10 mins ago. are they going to open gates?
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the other cam is down but this one at the spillway top is currently online, being moved a ton. seen lights turn on and vehicles with yellow lights moving around
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From March 5 news article on dam
“As the lake surpasses elevation 813 feet (the elevation of the spillway gates), it’s anticipated that some water will seep through the gates onto the spillway as the gates are not designed to be water tight.

The flood operations plan calls for a target elevation of 835.5 feet through the end of February and as low as 848 feet by the end of March. DWR will allow the lake to continue rising past 848 feet through the late spring and summer months to build up water supply storage and offer recreational opportunities........”
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They say the gate leaking is normal but, failed to mention the gate structure is cracked and several inches out of alainment.
Also some of the hydrulic gate seals have broken and rigged up patches done on them.
Gate jamming has also occured in the past.
The gates were not fixed over the past two years, they are scheduled to be repaired or replace in the future.
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opps above, alignment
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From March 5 news article on dam
“As the lake surpasses elevation 813 feet (the elevation of the spillway gates), it’s anticipated that some water will seep through the gates onto the spillway as the gates are not designed to be water tight.

The flood operations plan calls for a target elevation of 835.5 feet through the end of February and as low as 848 feet by the end of March. DWR will allow the lake to continue rising past 848 feet through the late spring and summer months to build up water supply storage and offer recreational opportunities........”
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First time over last 2 years that I have heard that rubbish.
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They say the gate leaking is normal but, failed to mention the gate structure is cracked and several inches out of alainment.
Also some of the hydrulic gate seals have broken and rigged up patches done on them.
Gate jamming has also occured in the past.
The gates were not fixed over the past two years, they are scheduled to be repaired or replace in the future.
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Oh yes? Who is writing this rubbish?
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Some of the problems are talked about here.
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Some of the problems are talked about here.
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This is the single most important article for every Californian downstream to read, and every American who eats fruits, vegetables, or nuts. Central valley is the greatest growing region in the world for them.

The risk of the gates failing cannot be over exaggerated.
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821.44 a foot every 3 to 4 hours
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Would some kind soul paste the inflow outflow etc stats for those that can't render the site please.

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Would some kind soul paste the inflow outflow etc stats for those that can't render the site please.

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PST RES ELE
FEET STORAGE
AF OUTFLOW
CFS INFLOW
CFS RIV REL
CFS RAIN
INCHES BAT VOL
VOLTS
03/06/2019 22:00 819.05 2,414,126 4,315 38,509 6,990 36.31 13.4
03/06/2019 23:00 819.29 2,417,024 4,309 39,454 6,988 36.31 13.4
03/07/2019 00:00 819.53 2,419,924 5,182 39,490 6,980 36.32 13.4
03/07/2019 01:00 819.80 2,423,189 5,394 42,958 7,008 36.33 13.4
03/07/2019 02:00 820.03 2,425,934 5,376 42,746 7,008 36.33 13.4
03/07/2019 03:00 820.27 2,428,842 5,416 39,020 7,008 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 04:00 820.51 2,431,754 5,390 40,455 6,980 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 05:00 820.79 2,435,153 5,398 43,618 7,010 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 06:00 821.00 2,437,705 7,833 41,389 7,010 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 07:00 821.26 2,440,867 8,171 42,873 7,011 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 08:00 821.44 2,443,058 5,314 39,461 7,007 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 09:00 821.65 2,445,616 5,340 34,576 6,988 36.34 13.4
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IF the gate are going to leak much they will want to QUICKLY raise the water level above that where scouring of the intake channel could occur - ie: let it rise quickly once the water level hits 813 and then level it off once the water level gets near 835ish.

Better to have a higher lake than to have GUARANTEED scouring of the intake channel.

The real issue will be the UPCOMING moisture events. Will they be able to safely expel the excess water coming into the lake on a 1:1 basis with the problems that they have had and are having?

*Below average spring moisture event ... they are fine
*Average spring moisture event ... probably OK, but some "if's"
*Above average spring moisture event ... time to leave town for 6 weeks or so until the rain/snow/moisture stops coming and the watershed is drained

03/07/2019 09:00 Level-821.65 Stored-2,445,616 Out-5,340 In-34,576

Full Storage Capacity 3,538,000 Acre Feet (still 1 million Acre Feet of storage capacity left)
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live cam at Oroville Dam, it appears to be working and is today?
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Working today

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Current Regional Snowpack from Automated Sensors


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I know some have also mentioned concerns about Shasta Dam and Trinity Dam. Imagine if Oroville, Shasta, and Trinity were to break at the same time. Say good bye To Oroville, Sacramento, Redding, and everything in between, and probably everything between Sacramento and the Bay Area, as well as quite aways south of Sacramento.
Notice how the biggest fires during the part fire season were near these three dams. Coincidence? I think not.
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A breach of Trinity dam wouldn't affect the Sacramento valley, rather the Trinity and Klamath rivers. Water is siphoned off and pumped into the Sac river from Trinity dam.

Also, Shasta is going to start releasing 40,000 CFS at 11am today, PST.

Something may fail in the levee system with that much water!
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Current Oroville Reservoir level is 814 ft. The estimated elevation based on the 10-day forecast is 835 ft. on March 15. The reservoir is currently 66% of total capacity. An Oroville operations update can be found here: [link to water.ca.gov (secure)] …
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This cam shows the lake side of the dam. It was tuned off when the water started going in fast. To scary for the little people I guess.
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OROVILLE DAM (ORO)

DATE / TIME PST RES ELE FEET STORAGE AF OUTFLOW CFS INFLOW CFS RIV REL CFS RAIN INCHES BAT VOL VOLTS
03/07/2019 05:00 820.79 2,435,153 5,398 43,618 7,010 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 06:00 821.00 2,437,705 7,833 41,389 7,010 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 07:00 821.26 2,440,867 8,171 42,873 7,011 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 08:00 821.44 2,443,058 5,314 39,461 7,007 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 09:00 821.65 2,445,616 5,340 34,576 6,988 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 10:00 821.91 2,448,784 5,335 40,156 7,008 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 11:00 822.13 2,451,468 6,198 40,077 6,994 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 12:00 822.38 2,454,521 6,182 41,231 6,992 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 13:00 822.55 2,456,598 6,188 38,053 6,992 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 14:00 822.77 2,459,288 6,167 35,134 6,977 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 15:00 822.97 2,461,735 6,179 36,496 6,995 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 16:00 823.13 2,463,694 8,081 32,349 6,985 36.34 13.4
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missed some, at 823 this post time

03/07/2019 13:00 822.55 2,456,598 6,188 38,053 6,992 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 14:00 822.77 2,459,288 6,167 35,134 6,977 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 15:00 822.97 2,461,735 6,179 36,496 6,995 36.34 13.4
03/07/2019 16:00 823.13 2,463,694 8,081 32,349 6,985 36.34 13.4
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FEMA only repays portion of Oroville Dam spillway costs

March 7th 2019

OROVILLE, Cailf. — The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) announced Thursday it would pay $205 million for Oroville Dam spillway repairs, leaving $306 million in costs they said were not eligible for reimbursement.

This is in addition to $128.4 million FEMA previously approved for reimbursement for emergency response, debris removal, and other costs.

“We appreciate the hard work and commitment of FEMA staff, however are disappointed in some of their initial interpretations regarding cost eligibility,” said Joel Ledesma, DWR Deputy Director of the State Water Project about the decision. . .
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