California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13358554 United States 05/15/2019 01:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed OH, FOR CRYING OUT LOUD! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554 NOW THE DWR HAVE MOVED THE GOAL POST TO 908! Oroville Dam fails at 908ft says California DWR Lol. The built up the abutment. No way....that amount of water up against the gates and new abutment....this is worse than before. TRUTH REALLY IS STRANGER THAN FICTION, ISN'T IT? |
UH User ID: 42156718 United States 05/15/2019 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed WELL, LAST NIGHT THEY HIT (TWENTY) CFS AND THEN THEY HAD TO SHUT IT DOWN! DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? so they were using the spillway as recently as last night? THEY LET THE EMPLOYEES PISS DOWN IT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY WERE USING IT... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13358554 United States 05/15/2019 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Good job, midwest. Quoting: Prayandprepare000 I can't find it on a real fast search, but I posted a geological article a while ago here that the underlying rock in the watershed is what they call "flashy" rock, ie water runs off real fast because it isn't all that permeable like in other parts of the country and world with dams. Not that it matters because you based your numbers on actual Oroville figures from the past, but I though the subject was interesting. It may explain why estimates of peaking 2 days after rain turn out to be more like 18 hours. I am addicted to this thread. Two weeks to sobriety, LOL. My water flow data (for staurated soils with the 14.5' 72 hour rain event) came direct from the ACE documents so I have to assume the ACE in their studies took into consideration the rocky nature of the soil in this watershed (they generate that kind of data regularly - so are pretty good at it imo) You may want to start drinking Saturday Night ... based upon the timing of the Rain Event coming in AND the Remote Viewer's TIMING (yep they actually claimed to see day and time of failure). I am REALLY upset that they are now holding off opening the spillway until the Lake hits 899. There is virtually NO LAKE RESERVE LEFT at that level. The ACE documents indicated that they have to open the spillway in 2 hour increments, engineering issues they implied (without me reading the details in the ACE document), which means that if they don't START to open the gates until it hits 899, and the water flow into the lake is heavy, the lake can go above 900 BEFORE they can crank those gates up to the next level. I didn't have time of course to read the entire 120 pages of the ACE document, with all it's graphs graphs and graphs closely enough to see how much each crank UP of the gates could be, but based upon what we have seen in the past with this dam I assume the first crank UP is to 10,000 cf/s, the second to the 20 to 25,000 cf/s and the third to 30 to 35,000 cf/s. Rain run off events can QUICKLY generate inflow surges WAY above those levels, it happened in 2017 where inflow levels jumped up VERY VERY quickly - which is the entire point of having reserve capacity in the Lake, which they will NOT have if they don't start until the 899 level. Something is SERIOUSLY WRONG with the MS. They are taking Lake right to the razor wire of using the ES AGAIN, which boggles my mind since that is where the disaster almost occurred the last time. MIDWEST, WHAT DATE AND TIME DO THE VIEWERS EXPECT THIS FKN DAM TO COLLAPSE? THANKS IN ADVANCE! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13358554 United States 05/15/2019 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed WELL, LAST NIGHT THEY HIT (TWENTY) CFS AND THEN THEY HAD TO SHUT IT DOWN! DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? so they were using the spillway as recently as last night? THEY LET THE EMPLOYEES PISS DOWN IT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY WERE USING IT... BROTHER UH, CONCENTRATE ON THIS A MINUTE SHE'LL ENHANCE YOU BUZZ, AS WILL THE MUSIC! MARIA SHARAPOVA - RUNAWAY - JEFFERSON STARSHIP [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] BROTHER UH>>> |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77016816 United States 05/15/2019 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554 WELL, LAST NIGHT THEY HIT (TWENTY) CFS AND THEN THEY HAD TO SHUT IT DOWN! DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? so they were using the spillway as recently as last night? THEY LET THE EMPLOYEES PISS DOWN IT TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE THEY WERE USING IT... BROTHER UH, CONCENTRATE ON THIS A MINUTE SHE'LL ENHANCE YOU BUZZ, AS WILL THE MUSIC! MARIA SHARAPOVA - RUNAWAY - JEFFERSON STARSHIP [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] BROTHER UH>>> You children have been asked nicely not to play in here. Please go find a far less important thread to poop in. |
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Midwest Skeptic User ID: 77374864 United States 05/15/2019 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed MIDWEST, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554 WHAT DATE AND TIME DO THE VIEWERS EXPECT THIS FKN DAM TO COLLAPSE? THANKS IN ADVANCE! Versus me misquoting anything please go read the RV Poster's posts from 2017. She obviously thought that what what she was viewing via her RV skills was taking place in 2017, but there are a couple of things that she talks about that didn't exist then, but do NOW, and that even she seemed to scratching her head about at the time. (she mentions at least twice that she didn't see the electric power line towers, just their concrete bases - they were removed AFTER the events of 2017 and the towers relocated away from the spillway area. Mentions that a National Guard guy talked about the RE-Evacuation of Oroville - it was only evacuated once in 2017. There may be other things in there that I didn't pick up on but those two leaped out at me as I reread her posts) From my post a couple of pages back: " ... I only mention this since it was in my notes from that 2017 event and I have NOT seen anyone here talk about that part of the 2017 event. Her posts about her Remote Viewing begin on this page and then one can scroll through them by the down arrow on the right: Thread: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed (Page 429) ..." Last Edited by Midwest Skeptic on 05/15/2019 02:14 PM Midwest Skeptic |
Crunch62 User ID: 34409171 United States 05/15/2019 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Something is SERIOUSLY WRONG with the MS. They are taking Lake right to the razor wire of using the ES AGAIN, which boggles my mind since that is where the disaster almost occurred the last time. Quoting: Midwest Skeptic Yes. There is no other explanation for this madness. I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13358554 United States 05/15/2019 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed MIDWEST, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13358554 WHAT DATE AND TIME DO THE VIEWERS EXPECT THIS FKN DAM TO COLLAPSE? THANKS IN ADVANCE! Versus me misquoting anything please go read the RV Poster's posts from 2017. She obviously thought that what what she was viewing via her RV skills was taking place in 2017, but there are a couple of things that she talks about that didn't exist then, but do NOW, and that ever she seemed to scratching her head about at the time. (she mentions at least twice that she didn't see the electric power line towers, just their concrete bases - they were removed AFTER the events of 2017 and the towers relocated away from the spillway area. Mentions that a National Guard guy talked about the RE-Evacuation of Oroville - it was only evacuated once in 2017. There may be other things in there that I didn't pick up on but those two leaped out at me as I reread her posts) From my post a couple of pages back: " ... I only mention this since it was in my notes from that 2017 event and I have NOT seen anyone here talk about that part of the 2017 event. Her posts about her Remote Viewing begin on this page and then one can scroll through them by the down arrow on the right: Thread: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed (Page 429) ..." OKAY...THANK YOU! |
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Midwest Skeptic User ID: 77374864 United States 05/15/2019 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Something is SERIOUSLY WRONG with the MS. They are taking Lake right to the razor wire of using the ES AGAIN, which boggles my mind since that is where the disaster almost occurred the last time. Quoting: Midwest Skeptic Yes. There is no other explanation for this madness. Crunch ... take my "Evacuation Numbers" recommendations above to heart. Don't tough it out this time. If everything turns out OK you will only need to be gone for 2 to 3 days, 4 max. Getting out 18 to 24 hours early from when the HIGH RISK point is going to happen gives you time to organize things for leaving and NOT having to fight any crowds. I worry about you, and all the people in the path of this monster, since things are just not right with it. The DWR seems to be trying to cover up just how bad the situation is, which is NEVER good when it is engineers doing the covering up. Midwest Skeptic |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 13358554 United States 05/15/2019 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Something is SERIOUSLY WRONG with the MS. They are taking Lake right to the razor wire of using the ES AGAIN, which boggles my mind since that is where the disaster almost occurred the last time. Quoting: Midwest Skeptic Yes. There is no other explanation for this madness. Crunch ... take my "Evacuation Numbers" recommendations above to heart. Don't tough it out this time. If everything turns out OK you will only need to be gone for 2 to 3 days, 4 max. Getting out 18 to 24 hours early from when the HIGH RISK point is going to happen gives you time to organize things for leaving and NOT having to fight any crowds. I worry about you, and all the people in the path of this monster, since things are just not right with it. The DWR seems to be trying to cover up just how bad the situation is, which is NEVER good when it is engineers doing the covering up. EXCELLENT ADVICE! THAT SO CALLED "TEST" LAST NIGHT TOLD ME THAT THIS MOTHERFR IS GOING TO COLLAPSE INTO A HUGE PILE OF SHIT! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77650159 United States 05/15/2019 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed River levels seem to be holding steady, below the dam. [link to cdec.water.ca.gov (secure)] Above Oroville, not much change in the flows yet either. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74211141 United States 05/15/2019 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed The gates on oroville are heavy duty ones, not shed doors like folsom Same gates dipshit... That doesn't look good at all. Yes, same gates. The Folsom gate broke at 40 years old. Oroville gates are about 50 years old. Life expectancy is 50 years. Cahill told them in 17 to fix the gates first and not worry about the eroded canyon yet. The broken spillway was functional. The gates were too risky. DWR said the gates were fine. End of discussion. The bottom of the gates is 813 feet. How much water is in that lake from say 813 to 893? 80 feet deep over that whole reservoir? Anybody below needs to pack their car and get high. Protein bars, water, wetwipes, heavy plastic bags to line a bucket for sewage. Cell phone juice gizmo. A litle tent at walmart is cheap. A couple hundred dollars to save your life. |