California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

That heavy sudden release could cause an enormous amount of scouring and damage to the dam. So, it could even spill more water triggering an all out catastrophic failure.

This is the prediction for flooding if that would occur: [link to www.caloes.ca.gov (secure)]

Has anyone left orovilleyet?

WHAT FOR...? EVERYTING IZ JUS' FINE.....

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GREAT POST!

I DON'T KNOW HOW TO BREAK IT TO YOU, BUT THEY'VE UPPED THE ANTE...DWR SAID UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WILL THEY OPEN IT UP UNTIL THE LEVEL GETS TO900 FEET!

DID YOU SEE THE VIDEO WHERE THEY NOW CLAIM THE NEW LEVEL TO OVERTOP IS NOW 90*?

HOW LIKELY DO YOU THINK THE CHANCES ARE THAT THIS DAM WILL COLLAPSE?

Where did you get that? She didn't give a date that I could see.

BU MP..

holy shit, the sacramento intl airportwill be flooded!! How the fuck am i gonna get to work??

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You think she’s the only one that can RV this shit? I only need 3 degrees of arc to determine a circle amigo.

My remote view show catastrophic failure at 0300 5-19-19 PST

SWIM...BACK STROKE BREAST STROKE...BUTTERFLY...

THAT'S AWESOME!

BUT IS THIS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT?>>>0300 5-19-19 PST

Do you mind sharing what you saw then?

"... How much water is in that lake from say 813 to 893? 80 feet deep over that whole reservoir? ..."

Roughly the surface area at 900 feet is about 16,000 acres. Down at the 810 level it is about 14,000 acres. Call it averaged 15,000 acres for shits and grins (it will be somewhat more, but that isn't important here)

87 feet times 15,000 acres is about 1,300,000 acre feet of water, or slightly more than 1/3 of the water stored in the lake at 900 feet, and of course that assumes that it doesn't scour down UNDER the spillway paving.

If it scours UNDER the approach ramp to the gates ... well it's anybody's guess how low it could scour down to.
How solid is the rock under there? Is it rotten rock? or solid bedrock? They found in 2017 on the downhill side of the spillway it was mostly rotten rock for the first 80 to 100 feet.

If if scoured down how far down would it go? 10 feet? 50 feet? 100 feet? If it would scour down really low, say 100 feet of so, maybe 2/3 of the lake could empty out.

FWIW .... SHE, the RV from 2017, saw the actual catastrophic collapse coming after 7 AM but before 9 AM, and she thought it was a Sunday (or maybe Monday) ... BUT ... the ES actually started to collapse overnight before then, but it wasn't until that time frame she cited that it had it's catastrophic collapse.

HIGH NOON 889.29..AGAIN...

STILL RELEVANT TODAY AS THEY DID ABSOLUTELY NO WORK ON THE GATES!

Are Oroville Dam spillway gates safe? (And what about those trunnions and tendons?) 8/2/17

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Thank you for your concern. I really do appreciate it.

Depending on which inundation map you look at, I am either a few hundred feet within the inundation zone, or a few hundred feet outside of it. Since the topography here is so flat, I assume that would equate to a few inches of water at most.

I can be on high ground less than two miles to the east. The problem is that the road going that direction floods during times of high runoff. Since it has been pretty dry for a month or more, I expect my old pickup could handle it just fine.

My wife and oldest daughter are leaving for a trip back east on Friday. So they won't be here for me to worry about (or influence my decisions).

My plan is to monitor the situation continuously and bug out if necessary when the whitecaps are coming down the road. It could be sketchy with 6 dogs and a cat in the cab of the truck with me. The chickens would be on their own in that scenario.

CAL FIRE conducting a controlled burn south of Oroville

[link to www.actionnewsnow.com (secure)]

Maybe to hide the incoming false flag?..Me Tell U Now?

Camp Fire survivors move into new Oroville FEMA trailers

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It struck a nerve with me, as the location she pinpointed as seeing the water rushing into town was the exact same parking spot my wife's car had broken down in some months before.

That area is prone to flooding in times of heavy runoff. It was badly flooded a couple of months ago. It seems reasonable for flooding to start there.

CRose8 has a history of accuracy with her RV sessions. I certainly wouldn't discount it .

I will agree, leaving when it is obvious is risky and will be full of burdens along the way. But its expensive to live on the road, tiring. Tough call

Motels out of room, rate hikes, gas stations jammed up, highway congestion from panicked drivers.

Getting ahead of the mob makes a difference.

I remember ALL of this clearly from two years ago...her story was very detailed...gave me chills.

Remember if the spillway would actually collapse that water is going to be coming FAST ... probably on the order of 45 to 60 mph, AND it will be moving straight downstream/downhill, no need to make any turns unlike we have to when we drive. Crow flies distance to the spillway ... NOT road distance ... is what is important if trying to outrun it. 8 miles away as the crow flies? ... 8 to 12 minutes probably is all the time you've got from when it breaks free until you are swimming.

OH ... as I recall when I reviewed the ACE stuff and the evacuation maps I noted that they are based upon a flow rate of about 650,000 cf/s (from memory) ... well if it really breaks free the flow rate could exceed that by a considerable amount, even double??, which could mean that places that "look" safe on the maps close to Oroville could actually be under 10 feet of water.

fwiw: CRose8 was totally convinced that what she saw was actually going to happen. She just could never pinpoint a date (and thought it would be in 2017, but it obviously did NOT back then). In reading a LOT of various RV and Dreamer threads over the years MOST are worthless (say 99.9% of them), BUT CRose8's postings passed all my internal tests as to having credibility of "potentiallY" being accurate (one reason I saved notes on her postings). CRose8 hasn't posted on GLP that I know of since 2018, but maybe if someone is still in touch with her they can contact her and ask her to return and give any updated information that she can.

Last Edited by Midwest Skeptic on 05/15/2019 04:04 PM

Agreed! I'm so tired of these all-caps people that clutter up the thread with junk.

Oops. Meant to reply to the person telling the kiddies to take their poop elsewhere.

I have been tracking this storm for a week and it seems to have gotten much stronger...WOW!!!..lots of water coming down SHOOOON!!

NAMES AND IMAGE OF DAMS THAT FEED INTO OROVILLE:

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Lots of activity at the gully to the front left of the gates looking up hill. They have an excavator there at the edge of the roadway they just paved and a bunch of shovel-leaners with grim looks on their faces. Is leakage through the spillway area, increasing down in that gully....?