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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77227766 Canada 06/09/2019 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed A view of the Lake Oroville main spillway in Butte County, California. The spillway gates are designed with seals to minimize leakage around the edges of the gate. This modest leakage is beneficial with respect to reducing friction when the gates are operated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484 [link to pixel-ca-dwr.photoshelter.com (secure)] ROFL...! Not only completely Normal, it's also beneficial! Idiots. Would have been less suspicious if they don't mention the leaks at all. If leaky gates were beneficial they wouldn't have been designed to be watertight. I dont know that this is from idiocy. I would say it is a deliberate and carefully calculated lie for the public. Inept is one thing, psychopathy is another. Yeah but nobody's that stupid. The only people who come close are shills who only pretend to be that stupid for the sake of making their argument. |
AdorableLittlepixie User ID: 77717822 Australia 06/09/2019 11:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Why is this thread not always on the first page anymore, you oroville doom tards... including UH. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60905062 I don't like having to hunt for it. LOL. Anyway, wind downstream of the Oroville dam didn't really materialize today. The Sand fire in my county is like 2,200 acres. You would think it'd be much more, but so be it. Very hot and dry conditions all over the valley now, we'll see what happens tomorrow. Check your active threads. Perhaps you cannot as an AC, but that is what I do. Or: Go to the first page of this thread and under the OP, click on the blue line that says: "add to favorites" and hey presto its in your favorites until you remove it. PS: I don't know if this option is available to ACs. AdorableLittlepixie Love, beauty and magic is everywhere when you take the time to take a deep breath, look around and feel. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77409575 United States 06/09/2019 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Why is this thread not always on the first page anymore, you oroville doom tards... including UH. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60905062 I don't like having to hunt for it. LOL. Anyway, wind downstream of the Oroville dam didn't really materialize today. The Sand fire in my county is like 2,200 acres. You would think it'd be much more, but so be it. Very hot and dry conditions all over the valley now, we'll see what happens tomorrow. Check your active threads. Perhaps you cannot as an AC, but that is what I do. Or: Go to the first page of this thread and under the OP, click on the blue line that says: "add to favorites" and hey presto its in your favorites until you remove it. PS: I don't know if this option is available to ACs. Hi Adorable, I have never used that. Learn something every day! |
Jeff_43 User ID: 77695521 United States 06/09/2019 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed A view of the Lake Oroville main spillway in Butte County, California. The spillway gates are designed with seals to minimize leakage around the edges of the gate. This modest leakage is beneficial with respect to reducing friction when the gates are operated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484 [link to pixel-ca-dwr.photoshelter.com (secure)] ROFL...! Not only completely Normal, it's also beneficial! I live close to a dam that was completed on December 5, 1941 (Cherokee lake in Tennessee) It is only a few feet from the top and there is not a drop coming from the gates. They have opened the gates a few times in the past year and I always go to see that because it is quote a sight. When they close the gates there is not a drop of water leaking. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75252414 United States 06/10/2019 02:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed West Coast faces heat wave this week as wildfires rage Quoting: sseess (CNN)A heat wave that could break records is forecast for some parts of the West Coast, where dry conditions are raising fears of more wildfires in areas still reeling from last year's deadly blazes. An excessive heat watch will be in effect Monday into Tuesday for portions of California and Arizona, said CNN meteorologist Allison Chinchar. Temperatures in the border areas of the two states and in the valley region from Redding to Bakersfield will reach triple digits. [link to www.cnn.com (secure)] Wonder how much snowpack is left in the mountains above Oroville, Shasta and Folsom dams? Oroville and Sacramento areas are supposed to be well above 100 this week with Redding area near 110. With temperatures that hot there's sure to be very rapid snowmelt. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77517484 United States 06/10/2019 02:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed A view of the Lake Oroville main spillway in Butte County, California. The spillway gates are designed with seals to minimize leakage around the edges of the gate. This modest leakage is beneficial with respect to reducing friction when the gates are operated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484 [link to pixel-ca-dwr.photoshelter.com (secure)] ROFL...! Not only completely Normal, it's also beneficial! Well that's kinda true in a stupid way. Water pressure holds the gates closed. It's how they are built. Obviously a leak is a reduction in over all pressure against the gates. So it's true but not the way they make it seem. That's my opinion about it. Besides, there should be no need to rely on leaking water to operate the gate. That statement is just completely unprofessional. I think they are desperate. I'm not so sure about that. Granted it would make sense to do that, have the gates basically go through the structure, Gates are larger, water pressure pushes the gates against a curved surface, helps to create a seal. I'm just not sure that's how these gates are done. I think they may ride on a curved surface on the inside (spillway side) and the trunnions bear the extra load of any water pressure when the lake is high enough for there to be any. If so, they ain't built like the Folsom gates in this video and I'm pretty sure they are. See if I can find more info on that. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Also I believe the seals actually are more or less "inflated" by a hydraulic fluid into a bladder and press outward to a sealing surface on the side when under pressure. Release pressure, loss of seal, but you would only do that when actuating the gates. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77517484 United States 06/10/2019 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed I sent the pictute and comment about the leaky gates being beneficial to Cahills today. Got back a thank you and they will be using it in the upcoming video. Lisa said as has been mentioned to just look at DWR footage from April 2 when they opened the gates and this leakage wasnt there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73740195 Good job 484. This is PandP000 on my phone.... BAHAHAHAHHAHA! You know some doofus in cubical wrote that crap, maybe they will get shamed enough to get their heads outta asses and think twice before writing dumbass comments like everyone reading them is a bunch of retards just to pimp the company line. The gates were designed to seal when the seals would be activated. If they worked as advertised? no leaks. You release pressure on seals when you are going to open the gates, get some leak water lube derp. THAT is how they are/were supposed to work. Whether they ever have or not? I don't know, but they don't work now. If they were smart they would just say something like, "Look we know we have leaks, obviously. Don't worry they aren't doing any damage, they aren't to get worse in the near future and we're going to fix the seals in the fall when the lake goes down. The spillway can handle 10,000x the amount of water leaking now and the water on the spillway actually helps the cement cure. We got Johnny "Seals" Johnson coming in to handle it and he's the best in da biz. So don't worry, it's no BFD and we're on it like a fat chick on Keto, so chillax brotato chips, we got this" I would write the BEST press releases! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77517484 United States 06/10/2019 03:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed A view of the Lake Oroville main spillway in Butte County, California. The spillway gates are designed with seals to minimize leakage around the edges of the gate. This modest leakage is beneficial with respect to reducing friction when the gates are operated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484 [link to pixel-ca-dwr.photoshelter.com (secure)] ROFL...! Not only completely Normal, it's also beneficial! I live close to a dam that was completed on December 5, 1941 (Cherokee lake in Tennessee) It is only a few feet from the top and there is not a drop coming from the gates. They have opened the gates a few times in the past year and I always go to see that because it is quote a sight. When they close the gates there is not a drop of water leaking. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Well, the TVA probably maintains it, there's something to be said for that. The DWR seems to think it's something beyond what they want to do, so they just bullshit people with retarded statements like, "the gates were never designed to be water proof" "oh leaks are great man, everyone's leakin! it's the latest thing!, you ain't leakin? get wit it!" |
Nonentity User ID: 77013656 United States 06/10/2019 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed A view of the Lake Oroville main spillway in Butte County, California. The spillway gates are designed with seals to minimize leakage around the edges of the gate. This modest leakage is beneficial with respect to reducing friction when the gates are operated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484 [link to pixel-ca-dwr.photoshelter.com (secure)] ROFL...! Not only completely Normal, it's also beneficial! Well that's kinda true in a stupid way. Water pressure holds the gates closed. It's how they are built. Obviously a leak is a reduction in over all pressure against the gates. So it's true but not the way they make it seem. That's my opinion about it. Besides, there should be no need to rely on leaking water to operate the gate. That statement is just completely unprofessional. I think they are desperate. I'm not so sure about that. Granted it would make sense to do that, have the gates basically go through the structure, Gates are larger, water pressure pushes the gates against a curved surface, helps to create a seal. I'm just not sure that's how these gates are done. I think they may ride on a curved surface on the inside (spillway side) and the trunnions bear the extra load of any water pressure when the lake is high enough for there to be any. If so, they ain't built like the Folsom gates in this video and I'm pretty sure they are. See if I can find more info on that. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Also I believe the seals actually are more or less "inflated" by a hydraulic fluid into a bladder and press outward to a sealing surface on the side when under pressure. Release pressure, loss of seal, but you would only do that when actuating the gates. The pressure from lake side puts force on the gates. The direction of force wants to make the gates move in a direction which closes the gates. It's because the gates meet lake water below the axis of rotation. You're correct about the inflatable seals. But the gate design allows lake water pressure to hold them closed. Last Edited by Nonentity on 06/10/2019 07:39 AM |
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Vision Thing User ID: 77619560 United States 06/10/2019 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed I sent the pictute and comment about the leaky gates being beneficial to Cahills today. Got back a thank you and they will be using it in the upcoming video. Lisa said as has been mentioned to just look at DWR footage from April 2 when they opened the gates and this leakage wasnt there. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73740195 Good job 484. This is PandP000 on my phone.... BAHAHAHAHHAHA! You know some doofus in cubical wrote that crap, maybe they will get shamed enough to get their heads outta asses and think twice before writing dumbass comments like everyone reading them is a bunch of retards just to pimp the company line. The gates were designed to seal when the seals would be activated. If they worked as advertised? no leaks. You release pressure on seals when you are going to open the gates, get some leak water lube derp. THAT is how they are/were supposed to work. Whether they ever have or not? I don't know, but they don't work now. If they were smart they would just say something like, "Look we know we have leaks, obviously. Don't worry they aren't doing any damage, they aren't to get worse in the near future and we're going to fix the seals in the fall when the lake goes down. The spillway can handle 10,000x the amount of water leaking now and the water on the spillway actually helps the cement cure. We got Johnny "Seals" Johnson coming in to handle it and he's the best in da biz. So don't worry, it's no BFD and we're on it like a fat chick on Keto, so chillax brotato chips, we got this" I would write the BEST press releases! Yes you would! "chillax brotato chips" |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77517484 United States 06/10/2019 12:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed A view of the Lake Oroville main spillway in Butte County, California. The spillway gates are designed with seals to minimize leakage around the edges of the gate. This modest leakage is beneficial with respect to reducing friction when the gates are operated. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77517484 [link to pixel-ca-dwr.photoshelter.com (secure)] ROFL...! Not only completely Normal, it's also beneficial! Well that's kinda true in a stupid way. Water pressure holds the gates closed. It's how they are built. Obviously a leak is a reduction in over all pressure against the gates. So it's true but not the way they make it seem. That's my opinion about it. Besides, there should be no need to rely on leaking water to operate the gate. That statement is just completely unprofessional. I think they are desperate. I'm not so sure about that. Granted it would make sense to do that, have the gates basically go through the structure, Gates are larger, water pressure pushes the gates against a curved surface, helps to create a seal. I'm just not sure that's how these gates are done. I think they may ride on a curved surface on the inside (spillway side) and the trunnions bear the extra load of any water pressure when the lake is high enough for there to be any. If so, they ain't built like the Folsom gates in this video and I'm pretty sure they are. See if I can find more info on that. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Also I believe the seals actually are more or less "inflated" by a hydraulic fluid into a bladder and press outward to a sealing surface on the side when under pressure. Release pressure, loss of seal, but you would only do that when actuating the gates. The pressure from lake side puts force on the gates. The direction of force wants to make the gates move in a direction which closes the gates. It's because the gates meet lake water below the axis of rotation. You're correct about the inflatable seals. But the gate design allows lake water pressure to hold them closed. Because of the shape of the tainter gate design yes that is true. The shape itself and the trunnion axis in relation to the water pushes the gates more or less downward. But, I think the other poster was saying that the water helps the entire seal. Like if you had to patch a hole in a boat. You'd put the patch on the outside so the water would help hold it in place, not the inside where it fight against the water pressure trying to push it off. That was the impression I got anyway, I could be wrong. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77388681 United States 06/10/2019 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed There will be no burying of this thread, ima remind you schizo orodoomtards every day of the one thing you cant seem to grok: THE DAM DAM IS FINE The spillway works as designed, it was built on time and under budget! PERFECT LAMINAR FLOW! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77388681 United States 06/10/2019 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Lol when even orotards realize there NOTHING wrong with the dam/spillway... What do they do?!?! THEY OBSESS ON THE GATES!!! (as if even a stuck open gate wiuld be a problem!!!!) I cant believe i have to pay so much FICA tax for you ssi disability losers... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77690378 United States 06/10/2019 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed The name Honea...is a derivative of "Honey" and means "keeper of bees." Is the Sheriff the only thing keeping the Agenda 21 BEES (running the California State government--including DWR) from stinging all the people of the central valley? |
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Midwest Skeptic User ID: 77374864 United States 06/10/2019 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed I dreamed today it was something that happens to Lake Almanor that causes Oroville to finally collapse or overflow and breach. Quoting: shake it I have had similar.. imo the BIGGEST risk for the remainder of THIS year is now the risk of an Earthquake damaging the Gates /Weir at Oroville OR such an event causing damage to the dam /spillway at Lake Almanor. Oroville has plenty of capacity now to handle the STEADY snow melt that is now going to occur over the next 12 weeks, unless the Hyatt Power Plant has to go off line for some reason. (remember they can't run water through that power plant UNLESS they have an electrical load on the turbines - so a major EQ that downs the transmissions lines leaving the power plant area, even if the damage is 50 miles away, WOULD force a shutdown of the Hyatt power plant - separate and apart from any damage that might or might not occur to the the Dam Structure itself). Most here probably didn't notice but last week there were FOUR small EQ's up at Lake Almanor, including one right under the lake itself, the other's on it's periphery by just a couple of miles or so (one east, one west, one just downstream from the dam). Crunch has previously mentioned the EQ's occuring up there including a significant one right at the dam itself a few years ago, with multiple aftershocks at each end of the dam after that quake. Even a limited breach of Lake Almanor would have HUGE consequences for Oroville, "IF" Oroville's lake level is HIGH when it happened. With an average surface area (at high lake levels) of about 16,500 acres for Oroville it would only take about 85,000+ acre feet to raise the lake 5'. 100,000 acre feet would raise Oroville 6'+-. (currently Lake Almanor is holding about 1,100,000 acre feet of water - a major breach of the dam there would probably allow up to 1/4 to 1/2 of that water to drain out, AND there is no ability to impound any large amounts of water as it comes down the North Fork of the Feather River into Lake Oroville - though it would be a multi hour process for that water to travel down the LONG and STEEP river gorge, from Lake Almanor to Oroville, probably 5 to 12 hours) Next winter "IF" they get a year with extended WINTER rain events in the watershed AGAIN ... then the Oroville Dam /Spillway /Weir complex may be put to the test again. For the moment the risk for the remainder of THIS year is imo really via a major outside event happening. Last Edited by Midwest Skeptic on 06/10/2019 01:51 PM Midwest Skeptic |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64698495 United States 06/10/2019 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed Paveway IV ‏ @PavewayIV Following Following @PavewayIV More Seizmic activity #OrovilleDam - no idea. Power to seizmograph cut June 8th just after 9 P.M., restored June 9th at noon. Nothing since then. Kind of disturbing to see a seizmograph at a big hydroelectric dam reliant totally on grid power with no proper UPS or backup. Graph at the link. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77690378 United States 06/10/2019 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed lol omg now orotards believe earthquakeswill hit oroville Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77388681 lmao at you tards We all just laugh at you morans every time we remember the evacuation, and the dam weir being 45 minutes from total catastrophe. You teenagers have such limited capacity for long term memory. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76274162 United States 06/10/2019 02:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed West Coast faces heat wave this week as wildfires rage Quoting: sseess (CNN)A heat wave that could break records is forecast for some parts of the West Coast, where dry conditions are raising fears of more wildfires in areas still reeling from last year's deadly blazes. An excessive heat watch will be in effect Monday into Tuesday for portions of California and Arizona, said CNN meteorologist Allison Chinchar. Temperatures in the border areas of the two states and in the valley region from Redding to Bakersfield will reach triple digits. [link to www.cnn.com (secure)] Wonder how much snowpack is left in the mountains above Oroville, Shasta and Folsom dams? Oroville and Sacramento areas are supposed to be well above 100 this week with Redding area near 110. With temperatures that hot there's sure to be very rapid snowmelt. The snow pack is GONE, DONE, COMPLETELY MELTED ALL OF IT IN THE OROTARD WATERSHAED. You get NO doom! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77635059 United States 06/10/2019 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed West Coast faces heat wave this week as wildfires rage Quoting: sseess (CNN)A heat wave that could break records is forecast for some parts of the West Coast, where dry conditions are raising fears of more wildfires in areas still reeling from last year's deadly blazes. An excessive heat watch will be in effect Monday into Tuesday for portions of California and Arizona, said CNN meteorologist Allison Chinchar. Temperatures in the border areas of the two states and in the valley region from Redding to Bakersfield will reach triple digits. [link to www.cnn.com (secure)] Wonder how much snowpack is left in the mountains above Oroville, Shasta and Folsom dams? Oroville and Sacramento areas are supposed to be well above 100 this week with Redding area near 110. With temperatures that hot there's sure to be very rapid snowmelt. The snow pack is GONE, DONE, COMPLETELY MELTED ALL OF IT IN THE OROTARD WATERSHAED. You get NO doom! It may be gone from above oroville but NOT shasta..no fucking way..a dam will break somewhere...maybe not this one this year. All the dams are fucked in a timeline that includes Grand Solar Minimum and Magnetic Reversal. No dam will survive these earth changes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77637596 Canada 06/10/2019 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed West Coast faces heat wave this week as wildfires rage Quoting: sseess (CNN)A heat wave that could break records is forecast for some parts of the West Coast, where dry conditions are raising fears of more wildfires in areas still reeling from last year's deadly blazes. An excessive heat watch will be in effect Monday into Tuesday for portions of California and Arizona, said CNN meteorologist Allison Chinchar. Temperatures in the border areas of the two states and in the valley region from Redding to Bakersfield will reach triple digits. [link to www.cnn.com (secure)] Wonder how much snowpack is left in the mountains above Oroville, Shasta and Folsom dams? Oroville and Sacramento areas are supposed to be well above 100 this week with Redding area near 110. With temperatures that hot there's sure to be very rapid snowmelt. The snow pack is GONE, DONE, COMPLETELY MELTED ALL OF IT IN THE OROTARD WATERSHAED. You get NO doom! |