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California's Lake Oroville Main Spillway Severely Damaged/Eroded. Oroville Dam's Recently Reconstructed Main Spillway Fundamentally Flawed

 
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Oroville Dam is also at seismic risk
POSTED ON FEBRUARY 14, 2017

quote: "When a dam is filled, water slowly diffuses into the bedrock, finding its way into faults and fractures, where it jacks up the pore pressure. This increase makes faults more slippery, reducing the friction that otherwise keeps faults locked, and so makes faults more susceptible to failure."

"Because of the fault geometry at Oroville, calculations by Bell and Nur (1978) suggest that the weight of the water actually clamps the fault, inhibiting failure. But the slow diffusion of the water into the fault zone, which takes years to build up, ends up promoting quakes. This could be another reason for the quake delay. The rapid draining and subsequent filling of Lake Oroville from July 1974 to January 1975 could also have caused crustal weakening from the built up pore pressure."

"An interesting question is whether after 5 years of drought, the large and rapid refilling of the Lake this winter—from 1/3 full to brim full—could set the stage for future induced earthquakes at the Lake."
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MILLERTON ..FRIANT DAM AT 100 PERCENT...HAS BACK OFF A TAD...WTF IS GONG ON THERE AT THAT ONE...?..WHY DONT THEY RELEASE?!?!..
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892.77

STILL AT 120% OF HISTORICAL AVERAGE!!!...
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MILLERTON ..FRIANT DAM AT 100 PERCENT...HAS BACK OFF A TAD...WTF IS GONG ON THERE AT THAT ONE...?..WHY DONT THEY RELEASE?!?!..
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Because every gallon stored = $$$$. CA DWR is a greed machine.
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MILLERTON ..FRIANT DAM AT 100 PERCENT...HAS BACK OFF A TAD...WTF IS GONG ON THERE AT THAT ONE...?..WHY DONT THEY RELEASE?!?!..
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Because every gallon stored = $$$$. CA DWR is a greed machine.
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..UH...BHUT..DEY JUS' RAISED DE GAS E TAX A FUCK LOAD...?

AINT DAT E NUFF FO DEM..DEMS?..DUMM DEMS...
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MILLERTON ..FRIANT DAM AT 100 PERCENT...HAS BACK OFF A TAD...WTF IS GONG ON THERE AT THAT ONE...?..WHY DONT THEY RELEASE?!?!..
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Because every gallon stored = $$$$. CA DWR is a greed machine.
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..UH...BHUT..DEY JUS' RAISED DE GAS E TAX A FUCK LOAD...?

AINT DAT E NUFF FO DEM..DEMS?..DUMM DEMS...
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Yeah, its never enuff...
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Downstream is San Francisco!!!
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Downstream is San Francisco!!!
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Yeah, it would be a big mess heading down into the bay if this thing lets go...
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want to see something funny? go to the linked dwc 'live'. the time/date is ticking so you think it's 'live'. there are a few auto bot idiots 'chatting' wid each other but you ( cause you are a real live human) don't have chat currently available. and oh yeah, small detail, it's 1:30 am PDT but it's still light outside in California!
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if you go back and look close you do see that it was streamed 17 hours ago but it is pretty deceiving looking at first. i'd delete the initial post but i gots no edit function.
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Energy has not released (fully) and has not moved north or east yet.
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want to see something funny? go to the linked dwc 'live'. the time/date is ticking so you think it's 'live'. there are a few auto bot idiots 'chatting' wid each other but you ( cause you are a real live human) don't have chat currently available. and oh yeah, small detail, it's 1:30 am PDT but it's still light outside in California!
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I have always been able as a human to post on those.

And at this time its not live.. because the cams don’t start until 7 am or a bit later california time…LOOK before you post some trash. For gawds sake you went there in the middle of the night when the cams are OFF. and of course the time is off for that reason.
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And at this time its not live.. because the cams don’t start until 7 am or a bit later california time…LOOK before you post some trash. For gawds sake you went there in the middle of the night when the cams are OFF. and of course the time is off for that reason.

i just woke up and made an error. i couldn't delete. for a person with all those heart emojis you post like a swamp thug. my bad. no edit capability.
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QUEEN CHARLOTTE ISLANDS REGION 5.6

imo from listening to Dutch this is something to watch for ie active energy releases north of ORV.

6.5 Cali energy has not moved yet ( still lots of local after eq's).

Dutch will keep us updated.
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And that explains that one crack on the wier nicely.. pictures at the link


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Interesting thread here..

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@ScottPCahill and I think the crippled gate structure is vulnerable to an earthquake. @dutchsinse had great video on January 21 on YT. He followed a fault line right across the spillway where it broke and said it contributed. Now deleted from YT and from MY PHONE after download.





So there is that~
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Claus Drastrup shared this~

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Edited to add

... seasonal drawdown has generally become smaller since 1975, suggesting that the 1975 rupture zone is being progressively relieved of stress. However, stress has not necessarily been relieved outside the 1975 rupture zone.


So the drawdown of the water has caused quakes in the past but seems somewhat unlikely but the Foothills fault system is anyones guess.


That's how I read that
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SHADOW STATS (LAKE ELEVATION ESTIMATES BASED ON REPORTED INFLOWS/OUTFLOWS)

DATE_TIME_PDT RES_ELE_FEET STORAGE_AF OUTFLOW_CFS INFLOW_CFS ​DIFF HOURS VOLUME CALC_ELEV DELTA
06/30/2019 08:00 895.19 3,462,133 7,501 4,051 -3,450 0 0 895.95 0.76
06/30/2019 23:00 894.91 3,457,777 7,493 6,859 -563 15 -179,456,400 895.​69 0.78
07/01/2019 23:00 894.35 3,449,078 7,463 5,509 -1,954 39 -546,865,200 89​5.17 0.82
07/02/2019 23:00 893.76 3,439,930 8,780 5,062 -3,718 63 -937,850,400 89​4.60 0.84
07/03/2019 23:00 893.19 3,431,108 7,527 5,604 -1,923 87 -1,294,927,200 ​894.09 0.90
07/04/2019 23:00 892.68 3,423,228 7,520 4,153 -3,367 111 -1,628,625,600 ​893.61 0.93
07/05/2019 00:00 892.65 3,422,765 7,561 3,225 -4,336 112 -1,644,235,200 ​893.59 0.94
07/05/2019 01:00 892.63 3,422,456 7,487 2,998 -4,489 113 -1,660,395,600 ​893.57 0.94
07/05/2019 02:00 892.60 3,421,993 7,522 3,181 -4,341 114 -1,676,023,200 ​893.55 0.95
07/05/2019 03:00 892.57 3,421,530 7,557 2,974 -4,583 115 -1,692,522,000 ​893.52 0.95
07/05/2019 04:00 892.55 3,421,221 7,535 3,179 -4,356 116 -1,708,203,600 ​893.50 0.95
07/05/2019 05:00 892.51 3,420,604 7,555 1,094 -6,461 117 -1,731,463,200 ​893.47 0.96
07/05/2019 06:00 892.47 3,419,987 7,522 1,294 -6,228 118 -1,753,884,000 ​893.43 0.96
07/05/2019 07:00 892.46 3,419,833 7,457 2,731 -4,726 119 -1,770,897,600 ​893.41 0.95
07/05/2019 08:00 892.42 3,419,216 7,470 1,997 -5,473 120 -1,790,600,400 ​893.38 0.96


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Interesting thread here..

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@ScottPCahill and I think the crippled gate structure is vulnerable to an earthquake. @dutchsinse had great video on January 21 on YT. He followed a fault line right across the spillway where it broke and said it contributed. Now deleted from YT and from MY PHONE after download.





So there is that~
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wow. Fault right across hill below spillway. Just wow.
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@ScottPCahill and I think the crippled gate structure is vulnerable to an earthquake. @dutchsinse had great video on January 21 on YT. He followed a fault line right across the spillway where it broke and said it contributed. Now deleted from YT and from MY PHONE after download.





So there is that~
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wow. Fault right across hill below spillway. Just wow.
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During construction we could see photos of it... somewhere in this thread. chuckle
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1 spike today: [link to earthquake.usgs.gov (secure)]
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@ScottPCahill and I think the crippled gate structure is vulnerable to an earthquake. @dutchsinse had great video on January 21 on YT. He followed a fault line right across the spillway where it broke and said it contributed. Now deleted from YT and from MY PHONE after download.





So there is that~
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wow. Fault right across hill below spillway. Just wow.
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Yeah, I believe that is the Cleveland fault (?)

If you walk across this thing, you can feel it shaking and trembling beneath your feet. I kid you not. Scary stuff.
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And at this time its not live.. because the cams don’t start until 7 am or a bit later california time…LOOK before you post some trash. For gawds sake you went there in the middle of the night when the cams are OFF. and of course the time is off for that reason.

i just woke up and made an error. i couldn't delete. for a person with all those heart emojis you post like a swamp thug. my bad. no edit capability.
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you came across to me as a shill big time…. Accept my apology…hf:Flowers for you:
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This was at the time of the 5.6 at the Searles area. This would be expected to be in the range for the local seismographs to pick up. It does not mean any of it affected Oroville…

7+ quakes are picked up around the entire world… bigger the quakes are the more they are picked up.
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SHADOW STATS (LAKE ELEVATION ESTIMATES BASED ON REPORTED INFLOWS/OUTFLOWS)

DATE_TIME_PDT RES_ELE_FEET STORAGE_AF OUTFLOW_CFS INFLOW_CFS ​DIFF HOURS VOLUME CALC_ELEV DELTA
06/30/2019 08:00 895.19 3,462,133 7,501 4,051 -3,450 0 0 895.95 0.76
06/30/2019 23:00 894.91 3,457,777 7,493 6,859 -563 15 -179,456,400 895.​69 0.78
07/01/2019 23:00 894.35 3,449,078 7,463 5,509 -1,954 39 -546,865,200 89​5.17 0.82
07/02/2019 23:00 893.76 3,439,930 8,780 5,062 -3,718 63 -937,850,400 89​4.60 0.84
07/03/2019 23:00 893.19 3,431,108 7,527 5,604 -1,923 87 -1,294,927,200 ​894.09 0.90
07/04/2019 23:00 892.68 3,423,228 7,520 4,153 -3,367 111 -1,628,625,600 ​893.61 0.93
07/05/2019 00:00 892.65 3,422,765 7,561 3,225 -4,336 112 -1,644,235,200 ​893.59 0.94
07/05/2019 01:00 892.63 3,422,456 7,487 2,998 -4,489 113 -1,660,395,600 ​893.57 0.94
07/05/2019 02:00 892.60 3,421,993 7,522 3,181 -4,341 114 -1,676,023,200 ​893.55 0.95
07/05/2019 03:00 892.57 3,421,530 7,557 2,974 -4,583 115 -1,692,522,000 ​893.52 0.95
07/05/2019 04:00 892.55 3,421,221 7,535 3,179 -4,356 116 -1,708,203,600 ​893.50 0.95
07/05/2019 05:00 892.51 3,420,604 7,555 1,094 -6,461 117 -1,731,463,200 ​893.47 0.96
07/05/2019 06:00 892.47 3,419,987 7,522 1,294 -6,228 118 -1,753,884,000 ​893.43 0.96
07/05/2019 07:00 892.46 3,419,833 7,457 2,731 -4,726 119 -1,770,897,600 ​893.41 0.95
07/05/2019 08:00 892.42 3,419,216 7,470 1,997 -5,473 120 -1,790,600,400 ​893.38 0.96
07/05/2019 09:00 892.41 3,419,061 7,605 2,946 -4,659 121 -1,807,372,800 ​893.36 0.95
07/05/2019 10:00 892.37 3,418,444 7,535 4,086 -3,449 122 -1,819,789,200 ​893.34 0.97
07/05/2019 11:00 892.34 3,417,982 7,538 1,998 -5,540 123 -1,839,733,200 ​893.31 0.97
07/05/2019 12:00 892.32 3,417,674 7,597 1,984 -5,613 124 -1,859,940,000 ​893.28 0.96
07/05/2019 13:00 892.30 3,417,365 7,504 3,148 -4,356 125 -1,875,621,600 ​893.26 0.96
07/05/2019 14:00 892.28 3,417,057 7,563 4,053 -3,510 126 -1,888,257,600 ​893.24 0.96
07/05/2019 15:00 892.27 3,416,903 7,503 4,994 -2,509 127 -1,897,290,000 ​893.23 0.96
07/05/2019 16:00 892.26 3,416,748 7,514 6,597 -917 128 -1,900,591,200 8​93.22 0.96


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You are in danger.
Romans 3:23 and Romans 6:23

He sent his son to rescue you.
John 3:17

Ask his son to rescue you.
Romans 10:9-10

Believe in his son.

He will save you.
John 1:12
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Since the reasevoir is dropping a few feet now.. I assume its going out to farms and houses or whatever.
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7.1 in Ridgecrest.

I wouldn't put it past those in control to deliberately breach the dam and blame it on a quake.
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Reports this last earthquake was felt in Sacramento as well.

Literally praying for you guys to know what to do.

Stay safe you can always over react and then laugh later??
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