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I am here to guide you back into the Open. Gateway 2-23-2007 - Dreamshift Occurs FOR THOSE WHO ARE READY

 
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when you become aware as Aeon describe YOU WILL NOT EXPERIENCE NEGATIVE EMOTIONS. The only way you can be aware is to be free from the negatave.

absolute awareness is the result of the removal of the negative AND the positive. I have experienced this state. three times for a few minutes at a time.


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Hmmm. You could be right. But the way I understand it is that pure awareness, or the 'enlightened' state is not absence of experience but rather freedom FROM that experience.

If negative and positive experience were removed there would be nothing for the enlightened awareness to experience.

The show goes on. With all the tears and joy. But the true self is no longer entrapped by the drama.

But that is just my take on it.
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Aeon said

Aeon: Hmmm, but you will not clear the conflict. It remains. I am not perfect. I experience anger, jealousy, frustration, desire, love, joy, boredom etc just as anyone else.


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I personally have lived in the aware state for months at a time.

at this time, I am not there, but I am able to relate this to you clearly and without error.

when you become aware as Aeon describe YOU WILL NOT EXPERIENCE NEGATIVE EMOTIONS. The only way you can be aware is to be free from the negatave.

absolute awareness is the result of the removal of the negative AND the positive. I have experienced this state. three times for a few minutes at a time.

the point of true awareness is NOT in the chest or solar plex. It is at the third eye position or higher. Emotion exists at the solar plex and is fine to experience, but if you want to truly wake up, you will be at the third eye or higher.

Aeon is most likely referring to a step TOWARDS awareness. Most people are now in the "guts" or lower. "I feel it in my gut" .
The step to the solar plex is FANTASTIC and necessary on the path....but it is not the clarity of being. ....

staring at Aeons avatar will not do you any good. Stilling your mind at the third eye position WILL.

meditating laying down is also for those that wish to remain in the karmic wheel. ...

if you want to proceed with the path. sit up, back straight cross legged , palms up touching middle finger to thumb. focusing on third eye position, bring your consciousness there and KEEP it there.

still your mind until there is no thought (this exercise could take weeks or longer to achieve stillness). after the discipline of learning how to still your mind you now you will begin to understand that you thoughts are not yours. ....relax. relax. relax...into nothingness. ask for nothing but understanding.

all the time, breathing in thru the nose and out through the mouth....slower out than in. ...let out the anxiety....in time you will be able to dissolve away the illusion of self.

perhaps there are doors opening and there are times that are more beneficial than others.

early mornings and late evenings are best....as to special times for doors...perhaps?

hope this helps
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you crazy crazy man!

there is only now and always will be, what you do now, you will do in the future, you can choose to repeat uncomfortable techniques forever, i suggest you repeat joining with joy forever, or at least till youve had enough -if that ever happens.

you can go to the higher chakras but if you are not grounded it may prove quite an uncomfortable experience.
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Dear Aeon!

Some weeks ago i Tried to breath the joy but it ended in depression. I tried to tone and sing, but ended for some reason i dont recall now. Then i chose to just be and accept suffering and pain and angst. However i grew tired of this and begun visualizing to entertain myself, and for the purpose of developing "instant manifestation"-abilities through extreme focus of mind. However i ended up again and again in front of the computer, internet addict as i am?. Anyway, early this morning or yesterday i stumbled upon this post of yours and got really curios. About 6am i decided to try it out, your suggestion of directing conscioussness. I fell asleep.

But before I fell asleep I had some time trying it out. I began with lying down, palms on the sofa. I tried to feel my chest and then reach backwards. It was pretty neat, I could feel different doors (chakras) along the spine, corresponding to the traditional view on it. However it was all emptiness and that was okay. I tried to say with my mind (inner voice) "open the door", which brought my mind out of its rest and seemed to disturb the process. I got curious an d tried to reach as high as I could, above my head. Up there I asked "open the door" "wake me up" but my own (inner)speech scared me and the response of Guidance was something along the lines of "no, not when youre in fear based state of conscioussness". Spirits started to reveal themselves as I dwelled up there and strived to push it. I decided to try something elese.

I tried to reach backwards again it ended with me stretching down and up the same time (growing roots and upward branches). Then I went for some food and back in the play again I started over and noticed the "holes"/doors and played with them.

Anyway, after having dwelled in the back of the second chakra and the bliss that was there I got hooked and now Im once again addicted to Love....A strange thing I saw was what looked like a glowing "flower" there, but instead of being closed or open towards forward or uppward as some speak of, it seemed to point backwards...

I had some great joy in backside of my heart and backside of neck the further down the smaller the chakra it seemed. Of course the 3d eye is very small too, but still.

Now my questions are, the "door" you speak of, was that the chakras or a special one of them? if not I must say I really dont understand because when I focus upon this vast void behind me I always end up in at least one of the chakras.

And what is it you have to do to really "wake up", I REALLY DO NOT WANT TO MISS THIS OPPORTUNIY, is it to simply merge with the inner joy, is that enough? Plz enlighten me on this...



maybe Off topic, just wrote the dream state down
Anyway, having fallen asleep I had some curious experiences of which I do not recall them all clearly. I recall being in one of the chakras and popping into a dream scene. It was in the forest, some machine cutting down trees, I hid behind some machine and then flew upwards.

Somewhere in between here I was in this strange state of which my ears hurled with an internal wind. And on at least two occasions I could hear spontaneous beautiful music suddenly appear and disappear.

Next scene was in a building, in an opening on the side of it, a maybe 9meters above the ground, beautiful trees, I realized I was dreaming and tried to fly towards them, I was in one of the lower chakras, maybe the 2nd. Anyway I got nowhere and eventually jumped off the edge and fell down, waking up.....the scene of trees turned into my sofa textile pattern as I woke up with open eyes...

Next dream I was back in the same room I jumped from, only this time it was closed and I was imprisoned with this "the bad gangster leader" from prison break. Then came this little boy who resembled the psychic boy from Smalville and he wondered if he could have my bed and I was like "sure" cause I was afraid this gangster dude would make me his "loverboy"...anyway the boys bed was all peed down and the scene was quite nasty of which I relate to the Fact that my home is currently quite dirty. Gotta have a good Cleanup.
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Dear W3...

Your dream sounds as though you were having a 'Parts Party'.

My mother was a "Neurolinguistics Practitioner" (google or Wiki for more info)...

She helped many people by holding what she called "parts parties".... where all 'aspects' of a person could come together to gain recognition and some unity.

My 'aspects', once arrived at my 'party' were many strange persons, whom I would not have EVER invited to any of MY parties.... yet when she put me into light hypnotic trance, and set up the invitation for ALL aspects of self to come to this party... here would come these odd people. Many I did not like at all, nor did they like me either. That was years ago. Since then have brought most of 'us' into greater harmony.

It's an excellent exercise.

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Dear W3...

Your dream sounds as though you were having a 'Parts Party'.

My mother was a "Neurolinguistics Practitioner" (google or Wiki for more info)...

She helped many people by holding what she called "parts parties".... where all 'aspects' of a person could come together to gain recognition and some unity.

My 'aspects', once arrived at my 'party' were many strange persons, whom I would not have EVER invited to any of MY parties.... yet when she put me into light hypnotic trance, and set up the invitation for ALL aspects of self to come to this party... here would come these odd people. Many I did not like at all, nor did they like me either. That was years ago. Since then have brought most of 'us' into greater harmony.

It's an excellent exercise.

x
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Thank you Xana, I might research that field of "Neurolinguistics" further if I grow tired of this newfound Joy, although I sense that what I experience now of Joy is merely the slightest glimpse of what is available
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Ok so cant wake my self up so.. shall I go and kill myself it could be quicker......just kidding, but what type of message are you giving here, if it was "ment to be" there would not be this inner struggle to try to get to a place that does not exsist....other wise we would ALL be there by now. some may have tried one way or another
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Hmm, my "s3nsing" didnt work out completely, at least the good feelings eventually dimnished, seems i have to entertain their presence by movement of energy, like taking a shower or eating, thinking thoughts.

Thinking thoughts, whats your view on that Aeon? To Dream within the Dream?

Its like, what we focus on is what we entertain, thoughts are an instant way of exploring ones desires, to see what one wishes to create, what one wishes to fill this "Eternal Now! with. Also it has been said: What you focus on, you attract. At least I can attest that what you focus on, you become more aware of, and becoming more aware of something isnt that to attract it? I mean, you must come closer to something to be more aware of it.

It would be nice to think intensevely of say a very beautiful home in front of you and have it manifested instantly, and even if this was not possible, the mere practice of such an visualisation set as ones destiny(destination) will of course over time present perfect result, if perfect is the setting.

there is something, a subconscious desire maybe, which you translate into thought and then you take action to fulfill that thought in the physical, with your focus.
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Thank you Aeon for your valiant effort to awaken the dreamer. I get glimpses of what you call the open in meditation and once in a while I do sense the illusion/dream you speak of in the awakened state. Just last night I had a very vivid dream I would like to share in hopes of understanding it clearer than what I perceived it signifying. I dreamt I was outside at night underneath a sky full of stars. I was running and took a leap. Instead of coming down right away I glided in the air about 20 feet and came down effortlessly. I've had flying dreams before, but this one was exceptional. I decided to test my flying skills a bit more and discovered I could control my flight at will. I could lift off with intention alone and soar over the trees and view the terrain below me. I stretched it even farther and found myself going towards the stars above me, faster and faster. As you can imagine, I was filled with such euphoria and joy and I felt no fear whatsoever. I was in control. I decided to bring myself back although I didn't know how to exactly. I just willed myself back. I saw the bright stars fading as I pulled myself back inward all in this joyous state of freedom. I came back to my bed with all my clothes and a coat on. I "landed" on the bed on all fours and my wife was in the bed also. We looked at each other and I asked her "Did you see that?" She said yes as if her subconscious had witnessed this levitation adventure as I did. The dream continued on very convoluted and ended up with me accepting an offer to move to South Dakota.

The difference in this dream from my other flying dreams is in the past, I would wake up in a frightful state as I soared out into space and as soon as I became aware I was flying, I would immediately shoot back and out of the dream completely. This time, I completed the trip and maintained this state of joy throughout the dream. This is one I will remember for a long time. Thanks for my rambling.

peace

ps: If anyone has any idea what this might mean, please chime in. I am open for direction.
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Thank you Aeon for your valiant effort to awaken the dreamer. I get glimpses of what you call the open in meditation and once in a while I do sense the illusion/dream you speak of in the awakened state. Just last night I had a very vivid dream I would like to share in hopes of understanding it clearer than what I perceived it signifying. I dreamt I was outside at night underneath a sky full of stars. I was running and took a leap. Instead of coming down right away I glided in the air about 20 feet and came down effortlessly. I've had flying dreams before, but this one was exceptional. I decided to test my flying skills a bit more and discovered I could control my flight at will. I could lift off with intention alone and soar over the trees and view the terrain below me. I stretched it even farther and found myself going towards the stars above me, faster and faster. As you can imagine, I was filled with such euphoria and joy and I felt no fear whatsoever. I was in control. I decided to bring myself back although I didn't know how to exactly. I just willed myself back. I saw the bright stars fading as I pulled myself back inward all in this joyous state of freedom. I came back to my bed with all my clothes and a coat on. I "landed" on the bed on all fours and my wife was in the bed also. We looked at each other and I asked her "Did you see that?" She said yes as if her subconscious had witnessed this levitation adventure as I did. The dream continued on very convoluted and ended up with me accepting an offer to move to South Dakota.

The difference in this dream from my other flying dreams is in the past, I would wake up in a frightful state as I soared out into space and as soon as I became aware I was flying, I would immediately shoot back and out of the dream completely. This time, I completed the trip and maintained this state of joy throughout the dream. This is one I will remember for a long time. Thanks for my rambling.

peace

ps: If anyone has any idea what this might mean, please chime in. I am open for direction.
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Wow, thanks for sharing Mate! I remember my first attempts to go lucid since childhood in my later teens. Once I got lucid and decided to go into outer space, but was horrified by the speed and the roaring sound that accompanied me. Maybe there even was like some kind of barrier, imprisoning me, but the main reason I woke up was fear. Later on Ive had many flying experiences but never to my recall in Space. Sometimes the height scares me, sometimes it is just nice to fly.

As to the meaning of Your dream, I think You know it already dont You, You made the meaning Yourself, choosing to fly and Soar the Sky!


one of my fav downbeat songs...

Astral Projection - People Can Fly

When you dream there are no rules,
people can fly, anything can happen.
Sometimes there is a moment as you are awakening
when you become aware of the real world around you,
but you are still dreaming.
You may think you can fly but you'd better not try.
People can fly.
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I was born on feb 23.
Any significance?

I am currently undergoing an unusal life's experience.

Can you tell?

--godspeed--
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Wow, thanks for sharing Mate! I remember my first attempts to go lucid since childhood in my later teens. Once I got lucid and decided to go into outer space, but was horrified by the speed and the roaring sound that accompanied me. Maybe there even was like some kind of barrier, imprisoning me, but the main reason I woke up was fear. Later on Ive had many flying experiences but never to my recall in Space. Sometimes the height scares me, sometimes it is just nice to fly.

As to the meaning of Your dream, I think You know it already dont You, You made the meaning Yourself, choosing to fly and Soar the Sky!


one of my fav downbeat songs...

Astral Projection - People Can Fly

When you dream there are no rules,
people can fly, anything can happen.
Sometimes there is a moment as you are awakening
when you become aware of the real world around you,
but you are still dreaming.
You may think you can fly but you'd better not try.
People can fly.
 Quoting: we2 196609


Yeah we2, I do think I know already. I have broken the fear barrier.

I saw many similarities between your story and mine. Starting at an early age also, I began around 10 years old flying around the neighborhood sitting on one side of a teeter-totter with a helium balloon tethered on the other side. I could never get anyone to see me fly though. By the time I went to college, I was shooting straight up controlling my flight by bringing my arms up from my side and by the time they reached over my head, I was already leaving our solar system shooting towards unknown galaxies which looked like clusters of stars, but always becoming scared and pulling back and waking up.

This episode broke a few of those old barriers. People witnessed me flying. I didn't get scared and I completed a trip out and back to finish the dream which became a little bizarre but with NO fear.

My birthday is coming up on the 26th, and as usual this time of the year is very powerful for me.

Ever have a dream where you were driving a car and the car just fell away and you were flying down the road in a sitting position? That was a strange one for me. I started bouncing off of roofs going at a high rate of speed.

Keep On Truckin'
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hf ...yes...mind giving up the ghost...
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I am sorry I have not been able to post these last few days. The effort required to remain is intense, as the energy increases many of you will probably also be feeling that you are slipping away from this dream world...

I will be around for a few hours if I can hold on to consciousness. I will try and catch up with some questions and if you want to ask any more from your experiences please feel free.
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Dear Aeon!

Some weeks ago i Tried to breath the joy but it ended in depression. I tried to tone and sing, but ended for some reason i dont recall now. Then i chose to just be and accept suffering and pain and angst. However i grew tired of this and begun visualizing to entertain myself, and for the purpose of developing "instant manifestation"-abilities through extreme focus of mind. However i ended up again and again in front of the computer, internet addict as i am?. Anyway, early this morning or yesterday i stumbled upon this post of yours and got really curios. About 6am i decided to try it out, your suggestion of directing conscioussness. I fell asleep.

But before I fell asleep I had some time trying it out. I began with lying down, palms on the sofa. I tried to feel my chest and then reach backwards. It was pretty neat, I could feel different doors (chakras) along the spine, corresponding to the traditional view on it. However it was all emptiness and that was okay. I tried to say with my mind (inner voice) "open the door", which brought my mind out of its rest and seemed to disturb the process. I got curious an d tried to reach as high as I could, above my head. Up there I asked "open the door" "wake me up" but my own (inner)speech scared me and the response of Guidance was something along the lines of "no, not when youre in fear based state of conscioussness". Spirits started to reveal themselves as I dwelled up there and strived to push it. I decided to try something elese.

I tried to reach backwards again it ended with me stretching down and up the same time (growing roots and upward branches). Then I went for some food and back in the play again I started over and noticed the "holes"/doors and played with them.

Anyway, after having dwelled in the back of the second chakra and the bliss that was there I got hooked and now Im once again addicted to Love....A strange thing I saw was what looked like a glowing "flower" there, but instead of being closed or open towards forward or uppward as some speak of, it seemed to point backwards...

I had some great joy in backside of my heart and backside of neck the further down the smaller the chakra it seemed. Of course the 3d eye is very small too, but still.

Now my questions are, the "door" you speak of, was that the chakras or a special one of them? if not I must say I really dont understand because when I focus upon this vast void behind me I always end up in at least one of the chakras.

And what is it you have to do to really "wake up", I REALLY DO NOT WANT TO MISS THIS OPPORTUNIY, is it to simply merge with the inner joy, is that enough? Plz enlighten me on this...



maybe Off topic, just wrote the dream state down
Anyway, having fallen asleep I had some curious experiences of which I do not recall them all clearly. I recall being in one of the chakras and popping into a dream scene. It was in the forest, some machine cutting down trees, I hid behind some machine and then flew upwards.

Somewhere in between here I was in this strange state of which my ears hurled with an internal wind. And on at least two occasions I could hear spontaneous beautiful music suddenly appear and disappear.

Next scene was in a building, in an opening on the side of it, a maybe 9meters above the ground, beautiful trees, I realized I was dreaming and tried to fly towards them, I was in one of the lower chakras, maybe the 2nd. Anyway I got nowhere and eventually jumped off the edge and fell down, waking up.....the scene of trees turned into my sofa textile pattern as I woke up with open eyes...

Next dream I was back in the same room I jumped from, only this time it was closed and I was imprisoned with this "the bad gangster leader" from prison break. Then came this little boy who resembled the psychic boy from Smalville and he wondered if he could have my bed and I was like "sure" cause I was afraid this gangster dude would make me his "loverboy"...anyway the boys bed was all peed down and the scene was quite nasty of which I relate to the Fact that my home is currently quite dirty. Gotta have a good Cleanup.
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What is happening is you are trying to drag your dream consciousness into the Open. This is not possible. THis is the "struggle" that people talk of, and is why they become so confused, frustrated and try for years and years various esoteric practices.

The you that you believe yourself to be at the moment will never be able to pass intot he Open...

You must become AWARE of the Open, and drop all vestiges of your "self", leave them behind... this is the hardest part. You must be prepared to let go, to surrender your concept of selfhood, before you can feel yourself in the Open, and sense your true consciousness.

Once you become aware of the Dreamer, waken. It is that simple. Just make sure you are not trying to "travel" your dream consciousness into the Open.

I hope this is clearer.

Don't be concerned with Chakras. Definitely do not try what one poster said and focus on the third eye. THis is an illusory thing. Did you know that it is all reversed? When you focus on the point in between your eyebrows it is a brain trick... the mind projects the feeling of the world onto the back of the brain! There is nothing there. It is like you are driving a car facing backwards with a television screen playing a movie of the road. Everything is reversed.

You will see.

There is no time tomuck about with various esoteric explorations of energy vortices within the body-mind dream system. Forget about the body-mind. Focus on the Dreamer, that is all.
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Hmm, my "s3nsing" didnt work out completely, at least the good feelings eventually dimnished, seems i have to entertain their presence by movement of energy, like taking a shower or eating, thinking thoughts.

Thinking thoughts, whats your view on that Aeon? To Dream within the Dream?

Its like, what we focus on is what we entertain, thoughts are an instant way of exploring ones desires, to see what one wishes to create, what one wishes to fill this "Eternal Now! with. Also it has been said: What you focus on, you attract. At least I can attest that what you focus on, you become more aware of, and becoming more aware of something isnt that to attract it? I mean, you must come closer to something to be more aware of it.

It would be nice to think intensevely of say a very beautiful home in front of you and have it manifested instantly, and even if this was not possible, the mere practice of such an visualisation set as ones destiny(destination) will of course over time present perfect result, if perfect is the setting.

there is something, a subconscious desire maybe, which you translate into thought and then you take action to fulfill that thought in the physical, with your focus.
 Quoting: we2 196609


Thinking is a mind created phenomena - forget about it.

Do not try to manifest anything... You will always create more problems. The Dreamer dreams what needs to be dreamt... in line with the collective Dream. Attempts at "control" will end in misery, all manifesting is driven by selfish desire, and is thus of the dream mind.

Rather you will learn to surrender to the flow and just be.

This is the way of the wakened one.
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to the max.

aeon you are truly an idiot.
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who is this "the Dreamer" you speak of, is it the Body(cause the body dreams this world and also dreams with the mind)?
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>>I have waited all of my life for Awakening<<

>>Stop waiting and just wake up. It is up to you!<<

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It's not that easy. I have been making efforts to awaken on a daily basis for as long as I can remember. The once I actually did awaken for a moment, there was no effort involved at all. In a moment of miraculous grace, it just 'happened.'

I don't know the 'trick' to just making it 'happen.'

You had the great, good fortune of having a Teacher that you could work with. Not all of us have that. Something is needed to give myself--and others--a push! Obviously, effort is not the thing that makes it happen.

Since that miraculous moment that I had, more than ever I want this with a burning in my heart. I know it is Real.
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Obviously, effort is not the thing that makes it happen.

Since that miraculous moment that I had, more than ever I want this with a burning in my heart. I know it is Real.
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Hey i reckon that too, the "struggle" its like whenever we try with effort, we take up space in our beings and stop the flow of newness, but when we let go, we open up, we allow and True Being can come to the Surface and work Through us?
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02/18/2007 08:16 PM
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who is this "the Dreamer" you speak of, is it the Body(cause the body dreams this world and also dreams with the mind)?
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The Dreamer is you. The real you.

You must compare it to when you sleep in this world. Do you try to take the Dream-you back into the world? Or does it dissolve when you wake up in the morning?

You cannot imagine the Dreamer, it is beyond the comprehension of your current mind.

No it is not the body, the body does not exist. It is not the mind, the mind does not exist. You will have this realisation! You can still be schizophrenic and awaken... when you come back to this world the schizophrenic mind will still be here, but you will be aware of your true self at all times as well!

Only the Dreamer exists.

The Dreamer must awaken.
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02/18/2007 08:17 PM
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and it seems like people "struggle" 99% of their time, at least i do
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02/18/2007 08:19 PM
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>>I have waited all of my life for Awakening<<

>>Stop waiting and just wake up. It is up to you!<<



It's not that easy. I have been making efforts to awaken on a daily basis for as long as I can remember. The once I actually did awaken for a moment, there was no effort involved at all. In a moment of miraculous grace, it just 'happened.'

I don't know the 'trick' to just making it 'happen.'

You had the great, good fortune of having a Teacher that you could work with. Not all of us have that. Something is needed to give myself--and others--a push! Obviously, effort is not the thing that makes it happen.

Since that miraculous moment that I had, more than ever I want this with a burning in my heart. I know it is Real.
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When you give up the effort then you will be close. As I said the struggle comes from trying to DRAG your cyurrent cosciousness into the Open. It is subtle... you must abandon mind first.

There is no trick. Just as an alarm clock wakes you in the morning there is a call from the Open to awaekn. Once you hear this with the Dreamer you will wake. Listen carefully with all your awareness.
You have a teacher.
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02/18/2007 08:48 PM
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I am ready. Guide me.

The practice you suggested is one way I have let go to connect with the vast unknown. In preparation I breathe, state my gratitude for what I have and am, and release any obstacles(residue anger, fear or pain) to relaxing with clear intent.

The messages vary. Many times I am distracted almost immediately and call my awareness back gently each time. I listen for the deeper sounds of the vibrational path that I resonate with. And every now and then I enter the space between thoughts, hang there unquestioningly until the world reemerges and thought takes over. It is usually a clearness of heart, a release from doubt into a finer knowing of my power in the universe. The truth of what direction to pursue is suddenly part of my awareness; or an outside sign is given me.

I know to be still. I know to listen.

I see the split of the Dreamshift now and am so grateful to be sharing this extraordinary event with others.

Keep posting.
When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.

Mark Twain
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02/18/2007 08:59 PM
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I see the split of the Dreamshift now and am so grateful to be sharing this extraordinary event with others.

Keep posting.
 Quoting: Trulight


What are your perceptions of the Dreamshift? I do not perceive it. How do you perceive it?
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I am ready. Guide me.

The practice you suggested is one way I have let go to connect with the vast unknown. In preparation I breathe, state my gratitude for what I have and am, and release any obstacles(residue anger, fear or pain) to relaxing with clear intent.

The messages vary. Many times I am distracted almost immediately and call my awareness back gently each time. I listen for the deeper sounds of the vibrational path that I resonate with. And every now and then I enter the space between thoughts, hang there unquestioningly until the world reemerges and thought takes over. It is usually a clearness of heart, a release from doubt into a finer knowing of my power in the universe. The truth of what direction to pursue is suddenly part of my awareness; or an outside sign is given me.

I know to be still. I know to listen.

I see the split of the Dreamshift now and am so grateful to be sharing this extraordinary event with others.

Keep posting.
 Quoting: Trulight


You will come back into the Open with us! You have learnt the art of letting go, now let joy rise within you. DO not be serious, be full of bliss, you are going to wake from the dream!

Do not stop your meditiation, though it seems like a long time to you it is but a momentary flicker in the eternity of the Open. Enter the space between thoughts but let go even further, dive down and behind with awareness only, no thought, no visualisation, feeling only, and step through the door. It is not closed to you.

Once in the Open sense your true consciousness, eternal, infinite, serene, powerful, complete, silent and all knowing. MErge into that and wake. I cannot tell you what is beyond, but you will join us here, now.
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02/18/2007 09:04 PM
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I see the split of the Dreamshift now and am so grateful to be sharing this extraordinary event with others.

Keep posting.


What are your perceptions of the Dreamshift? I do not perceive it. How do you perceive it?
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I can feel a great confulence of power, like being in the current when several rivers meet.

Don't concern yourself however with the shift itself. It will happen and there is nothing can be done about it. However the point I make is that at this moment, at this time, is your best opportunity for decades to awaken.

Will you make use of it?





GLP