WTF???? Australia's carp herpes plan dubbed 'serious risk to global food security' | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52551790 ![]() 02/25/2017 02:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UK academics say introduction of herpes virus could also cause ‘catastrophic ecosystem crashes’ in Australia Quoting: CitizenPerth A truckload of dead carp collected from the Murray river in South Australia Calla Wahlquist @callapilla Friday 24 February 2017 06.14 AEDT Last modified on Friday 24 February 2017 06.16 AEDT Scientists in Britain have raised concerns about Australia’s $15m plan to release a herpes virus in the nation’s largest river system to eradicate carp, saying it poses a serious risk to global food security, could cause “catastrophic ecosystem crashes” in Australia, and is unlikely to control carp numbers long term. In a letter published in the Nature Ecology and Evolution journal this week, University of East Anglia researchers Dr Jackie Lighten and Prof Cock van Oosterhout say the “irreversible high-risk proposal” could have “serious ecological, environmental, and economic ramifications.” The Australian government allocated $15m in the 2016 budget to a national carp control plan, centred around a plan to release the koi herpes virus into the Murray-Darling river system to kill common carp, or Cyprinus carpio. It followed extensive research by the CSIRO, which conducted seven years of tests to ensure that native fish, birds, amphibians, and other species in the river system could not contract the virus. Lighten and van Oosterhout say the use of the carp herpes virus should not be compared to the release of the myxomatosis virus to control the rabbit population, arguing: “compared with the biocontrol of terrestrial vertebrates, the biocontrol of large, highly fecund aquatic animals such as carp adds novel risks.” Australia commits $15m in bid to eradicate carp using herpes virus They argue that laboratory tests “cannot rule out the possibility of cross-infection” and that the virus will have “an enormous evolutionary potential” once released in the wild, and could evolve to attack other species. FULL ARTICLE: [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() NUTZO |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74197980 ![]() 02/25/2017 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
CitizenPerth (OP) User ID: 66515138 ![]() 02/25/2017 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What they gonna do? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74197980 Dangle hillarys flaps in the water or something? ![]() just pour huge amounts in? pre-infect some fish? herpies epidemic on the way..... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74197980 ![]() 02/25/2017 03:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74168740 ![]() 02/25/2017 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74168740 ![]() 02/25/2017 03:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74197980 ![]() 02/25/2017 03:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
CitizenPerth (OP) User ID: 66515138 ![]() 02/25/2017 04:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | toss them all in... that'll kill anything... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
fred also User ID: 63442018 ![]() 02/25/2017 04:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Idiots User ID: 71129134 ![]() 02/25/2017 05:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking idiots Why not net the shit out of that waterway, at the same time as releasing native fish stocks back in. Gross waste of money spending on the golden haired child of science in this fucking country. Bit tired of their stupidity. I'm almost convinced the negative impact some are making on people and land here is deliberate. |
fred also User ID: 65554508 ![]() 02/25/2017 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My home is this river system - the Murray River One of biggest in southern hemisphere I've camped from top(alpine) to ocean mouth Netting is impossible - folk are catching carp all day long They then throw them on the banks Cos their their eggs remain living long after parent is dead There must be easier ways than releasing disease Nop system likes to treat the symptoms Last Edited by fred also on 02/25/2017 06:09 PM |
strgzr User ID: 325864 ![]() 02/25/2017 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 62392185 ![]() 02/25/2017 06:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52551790 ![]() 02/25/2017 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71162856 ![]() 02/25/2017 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Releasing a virus into the wild would be very short-sighted. What could possibly go wrong, right? |
fred also User ID: 63448396 ![]() 02/25/2017 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Jake User ID: 74209728 ![]() 02/25/2017 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | holy shit what are 1 billion Chinese gonna eat???? Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
fred also User ID: 63448396 ![]() 02/25/2017 06:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74214825 ![]() 02/25/2017 06:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Australia have a history of fucking up pretty much most things they do and one of those they monumentally fuck up every times is the eradication of a species. so, without a doubt, there will be consequences, they never will be the same and everyone will be laughing when australia done goofed again. |
Jake User ID: 74209728 ![]() 02/25/2017 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is why you never allow bill or Hillary clinton to go swimming in your lakes or rivers. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Jake User ID: 74209728 ![]() 02/25/2017 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These carp have dirty flavour Quoting: fred also They scoop from muddy bottom So their flesh is shit Have heard if they are transplanted to clean water tanks Then yes, it becomes ok for eating Some are yuuuge thats why we feed them to the Chineses they are the only ones that eat carp Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Tree of Life User ID: 3857454 ![]() 02/25/2017 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | UK academics say introduction of herpes virus could also cause ‘catastrophic ecosystem crashes’ in Australia Quoting: CitizenPerth A truckload of dead carp collected from the Murray river in South Australia Calla Wahlquist @callapilla Friday 24 February 2017 06.14 AEDT Last modified on Friday 24 February 2017 06.16 AEDT Scientists in Britain have raised concerns about Australia’s $15m plan to release a herpes virus in the nation’s largest river system to eradicate carp, saying it poses a serious risk to global food security, could cause “catastrophic ecosystem crashes” in Australia, and is unlikely to control carp numbers long term. In a letter published in the Nature Ecology and Evolution journal this week, University of East Anglia researchers Dr Jackie Lighten and Prof Cock van Oosterhout say the “irreversible high-risk proposal” could have “serious ecological, environmental, and economic ramifications.” The Australian government allocated $15m in the 2016 budget to a national carp control plan, centred around a plan to release the koi herpes virus into the Murray-Darling river system to kill common carp, or Cyprinus carpio. It followed extensive research by the CSIRO, which conducted seven years of tests to ensure that native fish, birds, amphibians, and other species in the river system could not contract the virus. Lighten and van Oosterhout say the use of the carp herpes virus should not be compared to the release of the myxomatosis virus to control the rabbit population, arguing: “compared with the biocontrol of terrestrial vertebrates, the biocontrol of large, highly fecund aquatic animals such as carp adds novel risks.” Australia commits $15m in bid to eradicate carp using herpes virus They argue that laboratory tests “cannot rule out the possibility of cross-infection” and that the virus will have “an enormous evolutionary potential” once released in the wild, and could evolve to attack other species. FULL ARTICLE: [link to www.theguardian.com (secure)] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() This is a very, very bad idea! Viruses are by definition always mutating, and you know what that means! Especially bad because of the extremely unique Australian ecosystem found nowhere else on the planet!! "All you may know of heaven or hell is within your own self." - Edgar Cayce |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74198959 ![]() 02/25/2017 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | every 'eco-engineering' stunt AUtralia has pulled has backfired massively and caused a greater problem than that which was being tackled. They consistantly have fucked up in this regard. It is a fact and a part of historical record. For the love of god do not let Australian eco engineers fuck up again. They always do. always. and it gets worse and worse. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73387405 ![]() 02/25/2017 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
fred also User ID: 64737804 ![]() 02/25/2017 09:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74198959 ![]() 02/25/2017 09:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its simple Has every bio engineering effort by Australia massilvley backfired? YES Wait, every single one? YES Badly? YES, WORSE THAN THEY COULD HAVE EVER IMAGINED So, should they be allowed to try this new bio engineering project, to cut down Carp numbers? FUCK NO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP |
fred also User ID: 64737804 ![]() 02/25/2017 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
dean007 User ID: 73563173 ![]() 02/25/2017 09:24 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they should just put a bounty on the carps head like a dollar a carp carp problem gone in couple years open the area up to people i live in Alberta Canada that's what we did for rats and our province has been rat free for over a hundred years cockroach free too |
dean007 User ID: 73563173 ![]() 02/25/2017 09:26 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74212111 ![]() 02/25/2017 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | they should just put a bounty on the carps head Quoting: dean007 like a dollar a carp carp problem gone in couple years open the area up to people i live in Alberta Canada that's what we did for rats and our province has been rat free for over a hundred years cockroach free too Good idea... but instead of money..a dozen carp gets ya a sixpack. |