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Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?

 
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02/26/2017 10:29 AM
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Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?
We've heard it time and time again from supposedly enlightened and awakened people on here "The rich deserve respect they have worked hard to get where they are"..."the poor on welfare are just idiots who made bad decisions"

Over and over you SUPPORT the rich Capitalists and imperialists who often have got rich by exploiting the less fortunate. You support eugenics too by saying the poor shouldn't breed, only people with money should have access to this and that.

You claim to dislike men like The Rockefellers and Rothschilds but yet support the same ideals as them.

Only someone who works like a slave and pays into the system like a slave is considered worthy of your respect. Anyone else is just a welfare leech, a loser, a parasite, a bum, etc

I mean a guy can post here that he has to work 3 jobs just to survive and has lost his home and the replies will tell him he just hasn't 'worked hard enough' and is a loser because he doesn't have enough money and assets to be considered a 'Good, successful American'

Explain why you do this.
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02/26/2017 10:35 AM
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Re: Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?
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02/26/2017 10:53 AM
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Re: Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?
Because Trump, that's why.

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and, and, and...

Israel

G-d bless Israel.

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02/26/2017 10:53 AM
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Re: Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?
That's not me you are complaining about.

I have always sided with the poor and attacked the rich Pharisee attitudes.

I think I have even had a little success in reversing the attitudes.

In the past, I wrote some rants in Stefan Molyneux about the very topic, saying he was adhering too much to that attitude and not taking into consideration that so many of the things he criticized about government, society, etc. had very hard consequences for the poor, in particular.

Single motherhood, dumbed down schools, excessive regulation, corruption, inflation, a housing bubble, bank failure, and efforts to prop up banks, and borrowing on your children's future all harm the poor immensely, and make it virtually impossible for them to succeed, let alone get up on their feet.

I explained to him that he couldn't have it both ways.

The many errors of government, media, business, banking, economy, regulation, and war have either harmed and victimized masses of people or they haven't.

If we agree those are harmful things, we have to admit that the poor have been victimized and rendered almost powerless to help themselves.

Lately, Molyneux did a video making this point. Maybe he read and thought about my comments.
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02/26/2017 10:58 AM
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There Is Nothing Wrong With Being A Hard Worker And Having An 9 to 5. Most People With Jobs Still Living Pay Check To Pay Check And Barely Making Ends Meet. Faith Plus Hard Work Equal success. If You Work Hard For Something You Deserve To Have, Those Rich People You Name Never Worked An Day In Their Life They Are Only Worship By Criminals. The Only People We Trash Is Those Who Feel The World Owe Them Something They Feel They Dont Have To Go To School Or Work Like Every1 Else. Did You Know Most Poor Folks Think Education Is A Bad Thing? They Dont Know an lack of Knowledge Is Why Their Poor. If You Dont Work Hard An Learn How You Gone Be Rich? Those Poor Folks That Work Hard And Have Faith An Enough Education To Do What Ever They Want Know They Can Make It, Because They See The Progress.
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02/26/2017 11:12 AM
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Re: Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?
There Is Nothing Wrong With Being A Hard Worker And Having An 9 to 5. Most People With Jobs Still Living Pay Check To Pay Check And Barely Making Ends Meet. Faith Plus Hard Work Equal success. If You Work Hard For Something You Deserve To Have, Those Rich People You Name Never Worked An Day In Their Life They Are Only Worship By Criminals. The Only People We Trash Is Those Who Feel The World Owe Them Something They Feel They Dont Have To Go To School Or Work Like Every1 Else. Did You Know Most Poor Folks Think Education Is A Bad Thing? They Dont Know an lack of Knowledge Is Why Their Poor. If You Dont Work Hard An Learn How You Gone Be Rich? Those Poor Folks That Work Hard And Have Faith An Enough Education To Do What Ever They Want Know They Can Make It, Because They See The Progress.
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most obnoxious use of capital letters ever
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Re: Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?
Molyniew is smart, although he seems like a difficult person to hang out with.

I would be doing the sort of thing he does if I were as articulate as he.

But I am usually too distracted by other things when I talk to people - like dealing with the bad reactions people usually have to me, and trying to figure out how to put them more at ease.

I can't think fast enough to say the best things or explain myself clearly enough, and I end up putting out fires because I offend people so much.

But the issue is complicated.

It comes right down to the issue of free will, and how to handle it.

Successful people are right to adopt the attitude that what they think and do can matter and can bring them success, even when it isn't always true.

Poor people only make themselves more powerless by taking the attitude that nothing they think nor do can make any difference in their lives.

It is right to encourage people to keep trying to better their lot in life, to think smarter, and to act smarter, but it is wrong to create the impression that they are wholely to blame for their failures.

If it were so, there would be no reason to change any of the evils that cause poverty, and keep people in ignorance and poverty.
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02/26/2017 11:33 AM
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Re: Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?
we dont. its mostly juuus and other parasites who get rich

there is a civil war coming. our government failed. Im not talking about trump.

The government has encouraged white collar crime and ALL people of earth want to stop the juus
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02/26/2017 11:34 AM
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Re: Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?
round up the juus and lawyers and bring in a new era of happiness
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Re: Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?
we dont. its mostly juuus and other parasites who get rich

there is a civil war coming. our government failed. Im not talking about trump.

The government has encouraged white collar crime and ALL people of earth want to stop the juus
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hesright fiat banksters won and until they are publicly executed, we will continue to live as slaves
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02/26/2017 11:55 AM
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You are a simpleton if you blame the government, banksters, etc etc. I am a formerly poor kid who grew up and through actual hard work accomplished some success. I dropped out of high school, did not go to college, did not receive any loans or free monies to survive nor did I get welfare. At one point I was homeless for a few months and slept in a crappy Honda Accord I bought for 500 bucks from a college kid. I got screwed by almost every employer I ever had from Walmart - construction even though I was almost always a highly respected worker. So after learning a skilled trade by working from the bottom to the top I saved up enough cash to buy old second hand rental equipment and started my own company.

It has taken 5 years of working late constantly and at least 75% of weekends to get where I am. But now I have employees who do the work while I go off and sale my services to people that keeps the guys with a paycheck. My employees are poor but that is literally their own fault. 2 of the guys started popping out kids at 15-16 years old. And kept going until they had racked up 3-4 each. They all drink after work, lose their licenses but still insist on driving, blow money on crap items or frivolous toys for kids who have much more pressing needs. This is why they are poor it is not some grandiose plan by the elite or wealthy to oppress them it is simply they are to stupid to raise themselves up.

If their was no fiat currency or any currency at all these poor people would simply die off. Money is the same as any resource it must be collected one way or the other. Some will always excel in getting resources and others will fail.
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Re: Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?
I've been both...the poorest of the poor (homeless and eating from the garbage bins), middle class and working 7 days a week, and what many would call rich (running my own company with a good income and nice home etc). My friends run the gamut from drug addicted homeless, to some of the wealthiest of us all. I was born and raised by very hard working but poor parents and what I've learned is that "people are people". It doesn't matter whether rich or poor. There are good and bad in both...there are smart and not so smart in both. There are hardworking and lazy in both and all in between. The other thing I've learned is whatever my circumstance at any particular time is 99% a result of my personal choices! That's right...when it was bad it was due to decisions I made and when it's great its due to decisions I made. Also, if you are in a situation you don't like...you have to change something to change the situation....this is a fact. Keep doing the same old thing and you'll keep being in the same old situation.

Sure, some "rich" folks inherited their money and don't work so hard....they may even be assholes. These folks usually don't stay rich. Others who are poor become rich by chance (like the lottery) but don't change their habits or attitudes, almost always end up poor again. Most people with money that I know, actually are wonderful caring and giving people. They just work really hard and never never give up. Persistence pays off. You have to try to succeed. The big problem is that most of the poor don't understand that they have the power to change their own life....but they do...they just have to think and then act. Simple as that. I know...I've been there and done it several times.

This isn't hard folks...its reality. It really is and has always been up to you....learn that and act on it and you can do better. I promise!
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There Is Nothing Wrong With Being A Hard Worker And Having An 9 to 5. Most People With Jobs Still Living Pay Check To Pay Check And Barely Making Ends Meet. Faith Plus Hard Work Equal success. If You Work Hard For Something You Deserve To Have, Those Rich People You Name Never Worked An Day In Their Life They Are Only Worship By Criminals. The Only People We Trash Is Those Who Feel The World Owe Them Something They Feel They Dont Have To Go To School Or Work Like Every1 Else. Did You Know Most Poor Folks Think Education Is A Bad Thing? They Dont Know an lack of Knowledge Is Why Their Poor. If You Dont Work Hard An Learn How You Gone Be Rich? Those Poor Folks That Work Hard And Have Faith An Enough Education To Do What Ever They Want Know They Can Make It, Because They See The Progress.
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Jesus! What's with all the capitals? Unreadable.
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Re: Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?
If their was no fiat currency or any currency at all these poor people would simply die off. Money is the same as any resource it must be collected one way or the other. Some will always excel in getting resources and others will fail.
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Just a point.

Money is not currency. We use currency. Currency is not the same as any resource. There is one source of currency which we are all forced to use for transactions, and those that control it can make as much of it for themselves as they want with no cost to them. The others have to work for it.

It is a rigged game.

Also - if currency were actually money, it would all but obliterate poverty and scarcity, and not by people dying off. It is the exact reason money has been doggedly changed to currency all over the world.
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Re: Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?
we dont. its mostly juuus and other parasites who get rich

there is a civil war coming. our government failed. Im not talking about trump.

The government has encouraged white collar crime and ALL people of earth want to stop the juus
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hesright fiat banksters won and until they are publicly executed, we will continue to live as slaves
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Thought trump was gonna be for the people and start busting bakers and judges.

now hes going against the vast majority and cracking down on a plant

Maybe hes too old, I dont know what the fuck happened.


Next time Im voting for someone who explicitly is antisemitic
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Re: Why do you hero-worship the rich and trash the poor?
meant bankers and judges





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