I was An Angel Who Argued For the Creation of the adams from the Beginning

Before the War and Fall. After the war in heaven I volunteered to go as a captive with satan's forces and I was held in the abyss. Tortured. Ransomed back, I incarnated as an adam in a line of highly satanic lineage. The demons in the flesh of my lineage induced me to sin but also hid my true identity from early detection by the enemy.

I am now for all purposes an adam and have all the weakness and frailties of the adams.  I was given amnesia regarding my true background to lower my culpability for when I sinned and so I could fully experience life as the creation I once vigorously argued for.  

Before the war in heaven, the issue of the creation of the adams was brought up to the angels by the Father. Not that he needs council. But he sought input anyway. A heated argument and debate regarding the adams' creation broke out among the angels. I said then the adams should be created and argued for their merits.

And I am testifying now adams not only should have been created but are a superior creation. 

After all this time you understood naught of the plight of the adams?!  You think they are a lesser creation but they are Greater!  For it is written they are "...small in greatness and again great in smallness.." 2 Enoch 30:12. The adams were meant to show and teach other creation humility.  Humility is a virtue to a God who incarnated as a baby adam in a stable with livestock. Pride is a vice. For even the first created, proud as he was, when he still had all splendor and power in heaven amounted to naught before the Almighty. It is written "Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a Fall." --Proverbs 16:18--  Many of you didn't learn this then. For the first group of you, you rebelled in pride, a war was fought and you were cast out.  Later a second group of you fell as your haughtiness led you to concoct and implement very sinful designs. Both of you thought yourself higher than the adams. Yet they got a redemption plan.

But you still don't know this now. It was Adam's humility, his admission of wrongdoing and earnest seeking of repentance after he got expelled from the garden that moved the Creator to extend his grace and provide for a  redemption plan in Yahushua for the adams.

As for me, I will now also share and be part and parcel of the honor, blessings, and inheritance of the adams.  Blessings to the Almighty for giving such a reward! Blessings upon the adams!

-- The Elephant.

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I know of no biblical quote you can show indicating redemption for fallen angels. Put it up or shut up.

Yeah, a MAN. Angels do not become men nor vice versa. They are different species altogether. How have you acquired green karma? You spout crap.

Cool story OP.

How do you remember all this now?

Yeah, a MAN. Angels do not become men nor vice versa. They are different species altogether. How have you acquired green karma? You spout crap.

Adam and Eve are two interstellar silver serpent motherships. Truly if you remain true to law of one God then you remain true from the beginning.

"As for you, let what you have heard from the beginning remain in you. If what you have heard from the beginning remains in you, then you, too, shall abide in the Son and in the Father." - 2 John 2:24

"For the Son of man will arrive in the glory of his Father, with his Angels. And then he will repay each one according to his works.

Amen I say to you, there are some among those standing here, who shall not taste death, until they see the Son of man arriving in his reign.” - Jesus in Matthew 16:27-28

Adam also known as Son of Man and visitation.

Adam and Eve are two interstellar silver serpent motherships. Truly if you remain true to law of one God then you remain true from the beginning.

"As for you, let what you have heard from the beginning remain in you. If what you have heard from the beginning remains in you, then you, too, shall abide in the Son and in the Father." - 2 John 2:24

"For the Son of man will arrive in the glory of his Father, with his Angels. And then he will repay each one according to his works.

Amen I say to you, there are some among those standing here, who shall not taste death, until they see the Son of man arriving in his reign.” - Jesus in Matthew 16:27-28

Adam also known as Son of Man and visitation.

Angels.net

Huge website that claims we are the fallen angels reincarnated, and this is our valley of 2nd chances. Would answer a lot of tough questions if true..EVERYBODY is condemned because of his rebellion in heaven. IJesus paid the penalty for our rebellion and gives us a 2nd chance if we submit to Him this time.
"Why would God send me to hell for wrong choices on earth?" He sends you to hell for your original rebellion, and then blowing your 2nd chance. The Bible does say that hell was created for the devil and his angels

I have more memories of my life on the other side, than I do on this side. How do I become content on this side, when the other side is so much more?

It makes this side miserable and difficult to deal with, knowing I have to go sit behind a desk for 9 hours the next day and brood about it, with nothing and no one to express how and what I live like when on the other side. Not to mention the emotions that flow, and the difficulty of having to balance emotional states of that side and this side, CONSTANTLY.

I had needed some time away, and the time away keeps stretching on.

I looked into the lower astral last night. I hate the feeling of those places.

There is a separation stage, like a border. Like looking into a mirror and pushing yourself through. Last night, it was water, and the bottom was the border.

It takes a ton of cleansing to have enough energy for me to get into the higher states.
Yes. Energy. Inner energy, not like in the waking.

I go to the other side, when I build up energy and can play. But then, coming back here is crushing.

But, whether it be my own subconscious creating the experience, or whether it is literally a different experience created outside the self...Who knows. And, does it make a difference when it is the experience that truly matters?

I used to not have a choice of going into the dark places if I wanted to ‘play’ lucidly on the other side.

I 100% know why mystics are hermits.

I believed that by going into the other side, I could make my life better here. But, it doesn't work that way as simple as it sounds.

To better yourself is the most painful thing you can do.

Your inner self. Seeing, and knowing, and piercing the veil. People have no idea what it is like to begin awakening. They think it is about knowing what subliminal tricks are used to influence them, or what lies or political machinations are done.

Lonely doesn't even begin to describe it.

Imagine having the ability to do anything.

Imagine that...
Anything. Then, imagine the personal burden of that. Knowing that you can do anything, but you do not want to infringe upon another’s Free Will. And you don’t even know if the others are true souls, or manifestations from your own subconscious!

The astral, this one that we can experience, is the astral within the human sphere of memory and thought forms.

Lower astral can be experienced by souls after physical death, but it is within current living souls as well. Thought forms, and beliefs and individual inability at reconciliation of living a life in the material.

Maybe I have met some of them. I have helped them. I have shown them the cage they had placed around themselves. That not only do they restrict themselves to the cage of misery, but other things feed off of that as well, and make it an unending purgatory.

And every emotion they have is palpable. The environment of the section of astral you are in is palpable. It is not only a mental feeling, but is a physical feeling. In order to succeed down there, you have to be strong. Spiritually strong. Face your own fears, and then face everyone else’s fear for them. Then show them, that it is not impossible to do.

The toll it takes though. It is a spiritual task that is...

You can't have pride. You have to have faith in yourself to handle the unknown. You can't give up until you see it through. If you do temporarily give up, then you will find yourself in it once again, at a later date, and have to face it anyway.

For me, the only thing that mattered was to experience the other souls’ joy when succeeding.

There is no reward that can come close to experiencing that.

Go down into those dark places, and seeing people that beat themselves up because of mistakes they made in the human experience, or the guilt they feel from other people convincing them that they are 'disfigured', mentally or physically. Most of these types are children and pre-teen 'spirits'.

They manifest these disfigurements in real-time. And, they trap themselves in it, not knowing that they use to be something else, something divine.

They block themselves out from any thought form that is not what they resonate with. By themselves, as individuals, they seem as if they are hopeless. I know the meaning of hopelessness. And, all it takes is a little bit of help. All it takes is to feel the light again. The light, when felt, is accepted without thought.

They recognize it, and it immediately penetrates their cage. But, it must be given to them. They remember again, remember what was beyond their self-confined bubble of pain.

Do you know of the saints? The ones that went down there to do this work?
It was too much for most to accomplish. So, they created mass. The Catholic mass, of praying in groups to release the souls stuck in the dark places.

Why can’t they get out themselves? Personal guilt and sorrow prevent them from having any hope of redemption.

And there is such influence down there. It is controlled.

All of it controlled.

They do not have the light energy to do anything. There is no way to get the light energy back when down there. They feel like they do not have a choice, so they do not allow reconciliation of self.

They feel like they deserve it. And that feeling is supported by the negative thought forms that feed off of it.

And, they cannot remember anything else but that. They do not have access to sensation of loving memories that bring them joy. The loving memories bring them pain and guilt.

That is the absence of light and absence of love. It brings pain to remember love and happiness.

I cannot say these things, or have any concept of it, except for I was down there. I KNOW it. I know how portions of it work.

When you attempt to speak with someone lost down there, you physically feel the emotional state of them. You intimately know they have lost the spark of life. It is hidden so deep inside the misery that there is no way they can access it. It is blocked out, and there is no light to help them breach the block.

Without instant access to that inner light, hope is lost. They withdraw into the misery, the pain, the guilt. There is nothing else. The only thing worse, is to not have any feeling at all. To not have a relationship with anything. Though they have others down there with them, they are despondent, and do not desire much interaction with each other. The interactions are always very brief, and never of a personal nature.

If you want to know Hell, exist within fear, anxiety, guilt and loss of love. Now, remove hope, and any relationship with anything.

A second is eternity. Eternity is a second. There is no discernment of time. There is nothing to have a relationship with to show the passage of time, and the environment doesn’t change; no sun, no growth, no entropy. Just minor differences that are irrespective to knowing the passage of time.

Torture is not the lowest circle of hell. Those in the lowest circle would do anything to feel a pain coming from somewhere else, to have a relationship with that something else. If that exists - that other thing that is not you - then there can be choices made, opportunities for differences in thought.

Without it, YOU are pain personified. YOU cause all the pain you feel. YOU are the one that lost the light. Nothing and no one else did that. YOU were solely responsible for where you found yourself. It is beyond crushing. It is so far past personal guilt that it is inescapable. The personal guilt had transformed long ago, in another life, another memory. When feeling guilt, there is an associating thought that you could have done something else. If I only did that, instead of what I did. That type of relived memory – a different choice you should have made that may have steered you clear of your present anguish – does not come. With no inner spark of life, of light, of love, and with nothing to associate with, the idea of choices and decisions do not exist within that framework.