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Giving 28 years in prison for petty "hate crime" is ridiculous

 
SeeKen

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They get to pay 28 years of their life in prison for someone's feelings getting hurt.

The direct outcome of a society taught to judge based upon how something "makes them feel"
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History might play a large part in all this, take a look and see for yourself how one might look at this situation through "others" eyes, i.e. not just yours or the ones who has been jailed.

Either way it's ridiculous that it has to come to this. The only way for this to stop is to stop pointing out the obvious. A child is a child, black or otherwise. Come on raise that IQ, it's good for you.
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They were total assholes. There should be consequences -- BUT 28 years is nuts! Many murderers don't even get that in reality.
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Re: Giving 28 years in prison for petty "hate crime" is ridiculous
Yet, blacks can openly attack white people physically, on camera, and toss around racial slurs and get nothing more than a slap on the mother fucking wrists.

It'd be funny if it weren't so fuckin' sad.
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02/28/2017 08:38 AM
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I know how the world throws up its fist in defiance of God and his correction - they buy the lie that what feels good and what makes them feel good must be good and what makes them sorrowful, uneasy, repentant etc must be "evil"

All those MLK civil rights laws by the way we're never laid down to protect blacks from real racism.
They were laid down for these uses
To usher in degeneracy and licentiousness and other religions by deeminf it racist to speak against their doctrines
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02/28/2017 08:41 AM
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Re: Giving 28 years in prison for petty "hate crime" is ridiculous
So, that article was pretty long and described the whole event and the outcome of the trial in detail. What it did NOT mention was what crime was committed. What charges were that couple found guilty of? Is that simple info too much to ask for?
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Re: Giving 28 years in prison for petty "hate crime" is ridiculous
They get to pay 28 years of their life in prison for someone's feelings getting hurt.

The direct outcome of a society taught to judge based upon how something "makes them feel"
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74254192


History might play a large part in all this, take a look and see for yourself how one might look at this situation through "others" eyes, i.e. not just yours or the ones who has been jailed.

Either way it's ridiculous that it has to come to this. The only way for this to stop is to stop pointing out the obvious. A child is a child, black or otherwise. Come on raise that IQ, it's good for you.
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I see the tactic, implying somebody is stupid if they don't tow the party's agenda?
I will not make any excuse for injustice
It's you that have bought their new fangled definitions of hate which pretty much deem "having ones feelings hurt" as torture.
Why instead don't you look at it from that truth?
then you may see why this is being given 28 years and people who rape, maim and really torture people get off with less?
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02/28/2017 08:56 AM
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I'm from Georgia and am all for displaying the confederate flag. I'm also for the white race and am proud of my heritage, but ANYONE who goes around waving firearms and threatening someone is way out of line and asking for trouble. As my grampa used to say, "his actions done wrote a check that his butt can't cash."

Pointing guns at others is just stupid. (period) You never aim a gun at what you don't intend to shoot. And yes, I do have a CC permit and carry a 9mm every day.

That said, the sentence is extreme. I think a 5 year sentence with time served would be appropriate.
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Re: Giving 28 years in prison for petty "hate crime" is ridiculous
The actual prison time is 6 years for the one and 13 years for the other. [link to www.nbcnews.com]

They threatened to kill the people at the birthday party. That is terrorism. Imagine if it was your young child's birthday party and a group of blacks did this to your family?

This kind of thing has to stop. You don't go around terrorizing people for the color of their skin.......especially little kids. It's disgusting and evil and there is no justification for it at all.

People on both sides have to learn to get along.....period. Hate only breeds more hate. It's time to stop the hate!
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I'm from Georgia and am all for displaying the confederate flag. I'm also for the white race and am proud of my heritage, but ANYONE who goes around waving firearms and threatening someone is way out of line and asking for trouble. As my grampa used to say, "his actions done wrote a check that his butt can't cash."

Pointing guns at others is just stupid. (period) You never aim a gun at what you don't intend to shoot. And yes, I do have a CC permit and carry a 9mm every day.

That said, the sentence is extreme. I think a 5 year sentence with time served would be appropriate.
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So where is the video of them with rifles? I haven't seen any video of that yet. However there is video of them with the flag on the trucks, so why no video of fire arms??
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These people called other people names and taunted them?

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So, that article was pretty long and described the whole event and the outcome of the trial in detail. What it did NOT mention was what crime was committed. What charges were that couple found guilty of? Is that simple info too much to ask for?
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This was an exercise in 'free speech'.
They were driving around showing off the Confederate (and US) flag - ran into a bunch of Blacks having a street party, who became threatening, they pulled out a shotgun to back them off - police arrived, de-escalated the situation and no arrests made.


...........then along comes a spider, DA decides to charge them with 'street gang terrorism' - jury probably all black.
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In biblical terms it's called DEFILING THE LAND.

What it means is someone is ruining the peace within the community causing fear, hatred, distrust, suspicion, etc.

It's wrong. 28 years may be wrong too but their actions are certainly wrong.
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Good.
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Yet, blacks can openly attack white people physically, on camera, and toss around racial slurs and get nothing more than a slap on the mother fucking wrists.

It'd be funny if it weren't so fuckin' sad.
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Right?! Like that poor white boy that was kidnapped and tortured. . There would still be riots going on if the races were switched, but you barely hear about it. Last I heard though is that they were going to get charged with hate related crime, but who knows. Shits fucked up and bull shit!
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Re: Giving 28 years in prison for petty "hate crime" is ridiculous
Hate crime is as hate crime does
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Re: Giving 28 years in prison for petty "hate crime" is ridiculous
I'm from Georgia and am all for displaying the confederate flag. I'm also for the white race and am proud of my heritage, but ANYONE who goes around waving firearms and threatening someone is way out of line and asking for trouble. As my grampa used to say, "his actions done wrote a check that his butt can't cash."

Pointing guns at others is just stupid. (period) You never aim a gun at what you don't intend to shoot. And yes, I do have a CC permit and carry a 9mm every day.

That said, the sentence is extreme. I think a 5 year sentence with time served would be appropriate.
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clappa

and wtf is jose torres doing with the flag he is mexican
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Proves that it was a fake event done to promote the agenda.

They will be released next week in New Mexico with a new identity and $150k bank account.
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Re: Giving 28 years in prison for petty "hate crime" is ridiculous
Better to just kill them outright.
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This is what destroys respect for the law - the sentence is out of all proportion to the crime. It's like giving marijuana users life in prison, bullshit like that. As long as they didn't physically hurt anyone, I'd probably give them a year or so. I do think what they did was pretty awful to a kid and probably terrifying to what children were there, but this is just politically based sentencing, not on any actual crime done.
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i read about this. they drove around saying bad words and waving weapons.
but isnt it legal to talk and display guns?
even if it wasnt nice, how does this get you years in prison!?
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Appeal it and it will be corrected.
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Better to just kill them outright.
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Naggers that is.
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That judge has an address.
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And the fucking judge while you're at it.
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Re: Giving 28 years in prison for petty "hate crime" is ridiculous
I'm from Georgia and am all for displaying the confederate flag. I'm also for the white race and am proud of my heritage, but ANYONE who goes around waving firearms and threatening someone is way out of line and asking for trouble. As my grampa used to say, "his actions done wrote a check that his butt can't cash."

Pointing guns at others is just stupid. (period) You never aim a gun at what you don't intend to shoot. And yes, I do have a CC permit and carry a 9mm every day.

That said, the sentence is extreme. I think a 5 year sentence with time served would be appropriate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71490374


So where is the video of them with rifles? I haven't seen any video of that yet. However there is video of them with the flag on the trucks, so why no video of fire arms??
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Yea, I don't know. I didn't look at the video of the trucks and passengers that closely, so I don't know if it shows them. I'm just going by the gossip I heard around here. I live pretty close to where this happened. IF they had firearms and were threatening, then my statement stands.

And whether they had firearms or not, driving by a kids birthday party and yelling racial slurs is still pretty stupid. If I were out in my yard with my family and a group of blacks kept driving by and yelling their crap I would likely have been in jail myself.

Display the flag proudly, be all redneck and white and proud as you want to be, (I am), but don't go around acting like an ass. We're better than that. Be ready for the fight when the fight comes, but this kind of shit doesn't get anything done other than to get you put in jail and shut up.

We just gotta be smarter than that. And like I said, if they were waving guns then a 5 year sentence with time served should suffice, if they weren't then probation for disorderly conduct would be appropriate.
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That sentence is insane for what they did. That's the kind of thing where you get sentenced to maybe 6 months if that, and pay a fine. I'm sure they will be appealing it. The judge needs to be investigated. You don't hand out a sentence like that for hatred and what might have happened. They should be judged only on what actually happened.
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What they did was rediculous too. I have no pitty. If they didnt serve as an example then thered be nothing but racist rednecks riding around in pickup trucks with full sized confederate flags n gunz blazing.. like the fact it was a birthday party makes it especially sad..Im sorry, im not particularly enraged esp since its actually 13 for him and 6 years for her...there are alot of injustices in this world that involve losing alot more than 13 years..esp when the parties are guilty and bully babies.
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and not even the kkk would be proud of seeing two people blubber when convicted, this was senseless.
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Meanwhile....Black Lives Matter [more] is a social justice movement
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Armed threats are against the law and should be prosecuted.
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