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I WATCHED the moon "mission" with my brothers, father & mother, LIVE on TV in July of 1969. We were all passed out in our den when my dad woke us up near 4am to tell us to watch as Neil Armstrong (allegedly) took the first steps. There was no one in the world MORE PROUD than myself & my family & nearly every family in America also watching. I wrote NASA a letter asking for the 'Moon Photos' they provided for free to school children (plus p&h, naturally). I hung those photo posters all over my room, alongside my National Geographic full Blow-Up posters of the moon and the maps of the moon. There is NO ONE ON EARTH WHO DRANK THE KOOLAID ON THIS STORY MORE THAN ME. So please, no that it took MANY MANY YEARS for my to buy "that B.S. that we did not go to the Moon", as i would snap at every single conspiracy theorist who came down the pike....UNTIL I started to do my own, independent reasearch, as you all should do, especially those WHO NEVER QUESTION THE OFFICIAL STORY. Let me ask you this... WHAT ARE THE PROBABLITIES OF NASA JUST HAPPENING TO LOSE ALL THE VIDEO FOOTAGE FROM THE APOLLO 11 MISSION? That is what they are telling people for decades now... THEY LOST ALL THE FRIGGIN FOOTAGE. Ok, if that is credible, what if they told you they just HAPPENED TO LOSE ALL OF THE FRIGGIN SCHEMATICS FOR THE L.E.M. spacecraft, the moon lander? Starting to sound funny? What about the moon rocks which were tested and were found to be ALL FROM EARTH?


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4am? Armstrong took his first steps at 2:56 UTC which would be 10:56 pm Eastern or as early as 7:56 pm on the west coast. So you started your story with a lie.

It is also a lie that all the footage from Apollo 11 is lost. We have copies of all the footage and all that is lost is the original video piggybacked on the telemetry tapes from the EVAs only. That is likely because the tapes were written over when Memorex had a tape shortage in the 70's and NASA was then faced with the choice of reusing tapes they had copies of or not collecting data from ongoing missions and probes.

The schematics for the LM are not lost either. NASA does not own them as they didn't build it. Grumman has the schematics.

No rocks have been found to be from Earth. On the contrary they have been found to have been formed in low gravity, exposed to millions of years of cosmic rays, and have never been in contact with liquid water. Perhaps you're thinking of the rock in the netherlands? It was not given by NASA. NASA didn't give out any rocks at all in 1969. At best it was given by the US ambassador to the former prime minister. But even that can't be proven. All that is known for sure is it was found in his estate after his death and his family ASSUMED it was a Moon rock.

LOL at Collier claiming they couldn't fit through the LM hatch when there are pics and videos showing them doing just that.

Apollo's path DID take them around the thickest parts of the belts. The recent NASA video is specifically talking about testing the electronics of the new craft which are more sensitive than Apollo's. The path around the belts is also not available for interplanetary trips.


Funny how NASA claims the Van Allen Belts were not a problem for the Apollo astronauts IN 1969-72 -- they went through them about 7 times. Yet as recently as 2012, NASA spent a millions of dollars to build & send a probe to study the Van Allen Belts.
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There were 9 trips there and back. And again, their trajectory took them around the thickest parts of the belts. But thanks for proving that hoaxies know the least about the subject.




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I grew up on Mather AFB in Sacramento, about 2 miles away where McDonnell Douglas built and static tested the Saturn V third stage engines. I remember feeling the ground shake when they fired those engines and this was the third stage, not first stage of Saturn V rocket. Then they'd transport it across to the flight line at Mather AFB and load it into a "Super Guppy" plane for its flight to Cape Canaveral.

Another 5 miles away was Aerojet, where they manufactured the LEM and Command Module thrusters.

Afters I graduated in the mid 1980's, I worked with some Aerospace Engineers and Technicians who previously worked at both of those facilities. All of them were proud of what they achieved as a team and what we achieved as a nation.

Anyone who believes the Apollo moon landings were faked are the same type of people who believe the Earth is flat.

On a side note, I heard rumors of a secret underground facility at this same McDonnell Douglas facility. So I asked one of the Engineers who worked there about it. He told me that certain areas of the facility were off-limits to him (he had TS clearance). Him and co-worker were walking during lunchtime one day and accidentally wandered into one of the off-limits areas. He saw ventilation pipes sticking out of the ground. When he got back, he was called to his managers office, where he was verbally reprimanded him. Then his manager did something that really freaked him out. The manager told him about the conversation that him and his coworker were discussing. He said there was no one else around but him and his coworker.

Since this facility was above his TS clearance, it was rumored to have been staffed for developing black budgeted space program technologies. Ring any bells (Solar Warden)?

Edit: Watched the video. Note the astronaut aboard the ISS said, "We can't go beyond 230 miles" in PRESENT TENSE. In other words, we don't currently have the capability to place crewed flights beyond that limit. That is what ORION project will accomplish. To get crewed flights beyond low earth orbit once again. This includes the Earth's moon, asteroids or Mars.

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The only thing too small here, are the brains of the dickheads that believe this moon hoax shit.
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The only thing too small here, are the brains of the dickheads that believe this moon hoax shit.
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"There are no stars in the photos, Frank."
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we could go down the laundry list...

hasselblad camera film would've MELTED in 250f

radioactive solar particles would've gone right through the cameras and destroyed film

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another excellent webpage analyzing legendary director Stanley Kubrick's alleged involvement in the Apollo mission, fake backdrops utilized, etc. (50% rule applied here)

[link to realitysandwich.com]

It has now been forty years since the fabled moon landings
by NASA and the Apollo gang. When it comes to the subject of the moon landings, people tend to fall into two belief groups. The first group, by far the bigger
of the two groups, accepts the fact that NASA successfully landed on the moon six times and that 12 human beings have actually walked on the surface of the moon. The second group, though far smaller, is more vocal about their beliefs.
This group says that we never went to the moon and that the entire thing was faked.

This essay presents a third position on this issue. This
third point of view falls somewhere between these two assertions. This third position postulates that humans did go to the moon but what we saw on TV and in photographs was completely faked.

Furthermore, this third position reveals that the great
filmmaker Stanley Kubrick is the genius who directed the hoaxed landings.


1. Motivations for Faking

But why fake the moon landings at all? What would be the
motivation? Authors Joseph Farrell and Henry Stevens both have shown us undeniable proof that Nazi scientists had developed advanced flying saucer
technology as early as 1943. These authors also show that the US Government brought these same Nazi scientists into this country in order to build these highly advanced flying machines.

Furthermore, they believe that the idea that aliens from
outer space are invading the Earth is a clever cover story concocted by NASA to hide this technology.

Many sources inside the military industrial complex have
related to me that after John Kennedy was shown the flying saucer technology early in his Presidency, he realized that the advances in technology promised
by the flying saucers could solve many of the pressing problems of the world.
He saw that releasing this exotic technology would point the way towards cheap and environmentally friendly energy among other things.

Soon after seeing the flying saucer technology, JFK made his
famous speech asking NASA to land a man on the moon before the decade was out.
Many insiders believed that this was a ploy by JFK to get NASA, and the secret government, to release their saucer technologies. Since it was obvious to
everyone that standard rocket technology could not get man to the moon and back, JFK may have thought that NASA would be forced to release the knowledge of the technology behind the flying saucers in order to fulfill his vision and
get to the moon by the end of the 1960s. JFK’s ploy was therefore intended to free this advanced technology from the insidious hands of the shadow government.

After the assassination of Kennedy in 1963, NASA began a new
plan that would solve the problem that JFK initiated. This new plan would allow NASA, and the shadow government, to keep the saucer technology secret and to
still make it look like standard rocketry had taken man to the moon and back.

Someone high up in the shadow government decided to fake the
entire series of moon landings in order to conceal the United States’ extremely new and advanced Nazi technology both from us, the citizens, and our enemies.
In some ways NASA’s position on this was understandable. We were in the middle of the cold war with the Soviet Union. Did we really want to show the Russians what we had?


2. Who Will Fake It?

In early 1964 Stanley Kubrick had just finished his black
satire Dr. Strangelove and was looking
to do a science fiction film. While directing Dr. Strangelove, Kubrick had asked the US Air Force for permission
to film one of their B-52 bombers for the movie. The Pentagon turned him down.
The movie, Dr. Strangelove, was
about a flight squadron that had been ordered to fly to Russia and drop nuclear
bombs on that country. The Pentagon read Kubrick’s script and rejected his
request to actually film the inside, and outside, of a B-52. The reason for
this rejection was that Kubrick’s film was clearly a satire on the military and
US nuclear policy. The Pentagon did not want to assist Kubrick in this
satirical undertaking.

Undaunted by the rejection, Kubrick used various special
effects to create the B-52 in flight. When viewing Dr. Strangelove today, these special effects look quaint and old
fashioned, but in 1963 they looked very good. It is possible that someone in
NASA saw what Kubrick had done in Dr. Strangelove and, admiring his artfulness, designated Kubrick as
the person best qualified to direct the Apollo Moon landing. If he could do
that well on a limited budget – what could he do on an unlimited budget?

No one knows how the powers-that-be convinced Kubrick to
direct the Apollo landings. Maybe they had compromised Kubrick in some way. The
fact that his brother, Raul Kubrick, was the head of the American Communist
Party may have been one of the avenues pursued by the government to get Stanley
to cooperate. Kubrick also had a reputation for being a notoriously nasty
negotiator. It would have been very interesting to be a fly on the wall during
the negotiations between Kubrick and NASA.

In the end, it looks like Stanley Kubrick faked the moon
landings in return for two things. The first was a virtually unlimited budget
to make his ultimate science fiction film: 2001: A Space Odyssey; and the second was that he would be able to make
any film he wanted, with no oversight from anyone, for the rest of his life.

Except for his last film, Eyes Wide Shut, Kubrick got what he wanted.


3. Parelleling Events

It is uncanny the way that the production of 2001: A
Space Odyssey parallels the Apollo program.
The film production started in 1964 and went on to the release of
2001: A Space Odyssey in1968. Meanwhile the
Apollo program also began in 1964 and culminated with the first moon landings
on July 20th, 1969. Also, it is very interesting to note that
scientist Frederick Ordway was working both for NASA and the Apollo program and
was also Kubrick’s top science advisor for 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Once he negotiated the deal, Stanley, got to work. The most
pressing problem for Kubrick in 1964 was to figure out a way to make the shots
on the ground, on the surface of the moon, look realistic. He had to make the
scenes look wide-open and expansive, like it was really done on the moon and
not in a studio back lot.


4. Hollywood Trickery

No one knows how many things he tried, but eventually
Kubrick settled on doing the entire thing with a cinematic technique called
Front Screen Projection. It is in the use of this cinematic technique that the
fingerprints of Kubrick can be seen all over the NASA Apollo photographic and
video material.

What is Front Screen Projection? Kubrick did not invent the
process but there is no doubt that he perfected it. Front Screen Projection is
a cinematic device that allows scenes to be projected behind the actors so that
it appears, in the camera, as if the actors are moving around on the set
provided by the Front Screen Projection.

The process came into fruition when the 3M company invented
a material called Scotchlite. This was a screen material that was made up of
hundreds of thousands of tiny glass beads each about .4 millimeters wide. These
beads were highly reflective. In the Front Screen Projection process the
Scotchlite screen would be placed at the back of the soundstage. The plane of
the camera lens and the Scotchlite screen had to be exactly 90 degrees apart. A
projector would project the scene onto the Scotchlite screen through a mirror
and the light would go through a beam splitter, which would pass the light into
the camera. An actor would stand in front of the Scotchlite screen, and he
would appear to be “inside” the projection.

Today Hollywood magicians use green screens and computers
for special effects, and so Front Screen Projection has gone the way of the
Adding Machine and the Model T. But for its time, especially in the 1960s,
nothing worked better than Front Screen Projection for the realistic look that
would be needed both for the ape-men scenes in 2001: A Space Odyssey and the faked Apollo landings.

To see how Front Screen Projection looks on the screen,
let’s examine the ape-men scenes at the beginning of Kubrick’s film 2001: A
Space Odyssey. While viewing the stills
from these scenes, or watching them in the film, one has to remember that the
early scenes in 2001 with the
actors in ape costumes were all done on a soundstage. None of what you are
seeing in the ape-men scenes at the beginning of 2001 was actually shot outside. The scenes that surround
the ape-men are actually slides of a desert being projected onto Scotchlite
screens standing at the rear of the set.

In order to create these desert backgrounds Kubrick sent a
photographic team to Spain to shoot 8” X 10” Ektachrome slides. These slides
were then projected via the Front Screen Projection system onto the Scotchlite
screen. The actors in ape costumes stood in front of the screen acting out the
script.

If you watch 2001 on DVD you can actually occasionally see
the “seams” of the screen behind the gyrating apes. Kubrick was doing Front
Screen Projection in such a huge and grand fashion that the technicians were
forced to sew together many screens of Scotchlite so that Kubrick could create
the vastness needed for the ape scenes to be believable.

In this still taken from an early scene in 2001, you can see the seams in the blue sky if you look
closely:

Next is the same image as above, only I have processed it
through a graphic program. In this processing I have increased the gamma and
increased the contrast.

Please examine:


Now we can clearly see the “seams” and the “stitching” of
the Scotchlite Front Projection screen in the sky.

To get the perspective correct, one has to realize that the
Scotchlite screen is right behind the rocky outcropping set, which was built on
the soundstage. The lines on the screen are the flaws in the Scotchlite screen.
These flaws in the screen give the sky give a peculiar “geometry” when the
image is properly processed to reveal the Front Projection Scotchlite Screen.

Let’s show another example. Here is a still from the famous
“water hole” scene from 2001:

This next image is again the same image as above but with
the gamma and contrast increased:

While watching 2001, with the scenes of the ape-men one can
begin to see the telltale fingerprints that always reveal when the Front
Screen Projection system is being used. It should be emphasized that the sets that surround the
ape-men in the movie are real. Those are “real” rocks (whether papier-mâché or
real) that surround the ape-men. But behind the fabricated rocks on the set,
the desert scene is being projected via the Front Screen Projector.

One of the ways that you can tell the Front Screen system is
being used is that the bottom horizon line between the actual set and the
background Scotchlite screen has to be blocked. Kubrick strategically located
rocks and other things near the bottom of the scene in order to hide the
projection screen. In other words, the camera and the viewers would see the
bottom of the background projection screen if it weren’t blocked in some
fashion. As part of the “trick” it became necessary to place things in between
the screen and the set to hide the bottom of the screen.

I have Photoshopped a line differentiating the set and the
background Scotchlite Front Projection Screen. Please note how everything is in
focus, from the pebbles on the ground in the set to the desert mountains
beyond.

You will see that hiding the bottom of the Scotchlite screen
is always taking place when the Front Screen Projection system is used in 2001:
A Space Odyssey. Hiding the screen is one
of the fingerprints; it is evidence of its use. Just like the stage magician
who needs the long sleeves of his costume to hide the mechanism of his tricks,
so too Kubrick needed to hide the mechanism of his trick behind the carefully
placed horizon line between set and screen.

Here is another example from 2001: A Space Odyssey:

And here is the same image with my Photoshop line separating
the set with the ape-man actor and the Scotchlite Front Projection Screen.

And you will see, before this article is finished, that this
same fingerprint, this same evidence, is clearly seen in all of the NASA Apollo
stills and video footage.

It is this fingerprint that reveals, not only that NASA
faked the Apollo missions but also HOW they faked them.

Let’s examine a few NASA Apollo images now.


This is a still from Apollo 17. This is also a great example
of the Front Screen Projection process:


Again, I have Photoshopped a line indicating the back of the
set. One can see that there is a slight uprising behind the rover, which is
hiding the bottom of the screen. Also notice that even though everything is in
focus from the lunar rover to the mountains in the background, there is a
strange change in the landscape of the ground right behind my lines. This is
because the photo of the mountains being used on the Front Projection system
has a slightly different ground texture than the set. As we go on, we will see
that this fingerprint is also consistent throughout the Apollo images.

Here is another Apollo image:


Now here is my version where I show the line between set and
screen:


Again notice that the texture of the ground changes right
behind my lines.

Now let’s go to some more Apollo images. We can see that the
same thing occurs here as in the ape-men scenes in 2001. There is always a line separating the set from the
screen. Even if you do not see it at first, it will become apparent as one
grows more familiar with the Front Screen Projection process and how it is
being used to fake the astronauts standing on the lunar surface. Go to any NASA
site (like this one,
for example) and start looking for yourself.

Not all lunar surface shots are using the process. Sometimes
the astronauts are just standing on the set with a completely (and suspicious)
black background. The early missions used the Front Screen Projection system
only when they had to. But as the missions went on, and they had to look
better, Kubrick began to perfect the process.

Although you can see the Front Screen Projection process on
every mission, the seriously revealing images are in the later missions,
particularly Apollo 14, 15, 16 and (my favorite) 17.

Here are a few from Apollo 17:


That astronaut is driving the lunar rover parallel to the
screen and the rover is only three or four feet away from the Scotchlite.
Please note how the tire treads just lead to nowhere. Actually, they are going
to the edge of the set.


The astronaut is about six feet in front of the Scotchlite
screen. Please note how everything is in focus from the rocks and pebbles close
to the camera all the way to the crystal clear mountain behind the astronaut.
As we shall see very soon, even that is impossible.

Also please note the other telltale evidence that permeates
the Apollo images: There is a stark difference in the ground texture between
the set and what is being projected onto the screen. You can almost count the
number of small rocks and the granularity of the ground is clearly seen on the
set. But once we get to the screen on the other side of my line this
granularity disappears.

This next image is a slick little piece of work. When first
viewed one is sure that they are looking across the vast unbroken lunar surface
from beginning to end. With the Earth rising, it is truly a stunning shot.


But sure enough – a close examination reveals the set/screen
line once again. Again, please note the change in the texture of the ground
immediately on each side of the line. The little pebbles and dust seem to
disappear behind the line.


Doesn’t the fakery just make you all patriotic inside?


5. Depth of Field: More Evidence

Besides the evidence of the horizon line between set and
screen and the changing granularity of the texture of the ground, there is
another telltale fingerprint that comes with Front Screen Projection. This has
to do with a photographic situation called depth of field. Depth of field has
to do with the plane of focus that the lens of the camera is tuned to.

The main rule of thumb in photography is that the larger the
format of the film, the less depth of field. For instance, 16mm film has a
large depth of field. 35mm has a smaller depth of field, and 70 mm (which
Stanley was using in 2001 as were all of
the astronaut-photographers in the Apollo missions) has an incredibly small
depth of field.

What this means is that it is virtually impossible for two
objects that are far apart in the lens of a 70mm camera to be in the same plane
of focus. One of the two objects will always be out-of-focus. Filmmakers like
to use depth of field because it creates soft out-of-focus backgrounds that are
visually very pleasant to the human eye.

While watching the ape-men scenes at the beginning of 2001, one can see that everything is in focus. Whether it
is the apes, or the far away desert background, they are all in
focus. This is because the Front Projection Screen on which the background
desert scenes are projected is actually not far away from the ape actor. In
reality the Scotchlite screen containing the desert scene is right behind the
actors just as the Scotchlite screen is right behind the astronauts in the
Apollo images. So whatever is projected onto that screen will usually be in the
same plane of focus as the actor-ape or the actor-astronaut.

This depth of field is impossible in real life using a large
format film like 70 mm. Keeping everything in focus is only possible if
everything is actually confined to a small place. It may look like the ape-men
are somewhere in a huge desert landscape but in reality they are all on a small
set in a studio.

It may look like the astronauts are on a vast lunar
landscape, but actually they are on a small confined set.

According to the NASA literature, the Apollo astronauts were
using large format Hassleblad cameras. These cameras were provided with large
rolls of 70 mm film on which they took the images. This large format film is
exactly the same size film that Kubrick was using when shooting 2001.

The plane of focus, the depth of field, on these cameras is
incredibly small. This should have been a huge problem for the astronaut-photographers,
who would have to be constantly adjusting the focus. We therefore should expect
to see a lot of out of focus shots taken by the astronauts. When you consider
the fact that, because of their helmets, they did not even have the ability to
see through the viewfinder of their cameras, this would have only increased the
chances that most of what they would be shooting would be out of focus.

I have gone through the entire photographic record of Apollo
program, both at Goddard in Greenbelt, Maryland and in the main photographic
repository at NASA’s Houston headquarters. When the Apollo photographic record
is examined, the exact opposite of what one would expect to find is discovered.
Instead of many out-of-focus shots, we find that nearly every shot is in
pristine focus. And these amateur photographer-astronauts have an uncanny sense
of composition, especially when one remembers that they are not even able to
look through their camera’s viewfinders. Their images have the unmistakable
quality of a highly polished professional photographer.

Before embarking on his film career Stanley Kubrick was a
professional photographer working for Look Magazine. Honestly, even a
professional photographer looking through the viewer of the camera would be
hard pressed to come up with the pristine imagery and crystal clear focus of
the Apollo astronaut amateur photographers. Unfortunately though, for everyone
involved, the fact that everything is in focus in the Apollo record is the old
telltale fingerprint of Front Screen Projection.

Examine the above photographs from Apollo. Please note how
everything is in focus. As one goes through the entire Apollo record they will
discover that the astronaut photographers never seem to have a problem with
depth of field. Even though you could never get everything to remain in focus
over such vast distances here on Earth, somehow the rules of physics are
bypassed when men shoot photographs on the lunar surface.

Indeed the very physics of lens dynamics and depth of field
apparently disappears when the astronauts shoot photographs. (Just for the
record, the cameras were not altered at all by Hasselblad or anyone else). As a
professional photographer and a filmmaker, I have wrestled with depth of field
problems for over 40 years. I am surprised that no other photographer has
noticed the lack of any such problems encountered by the
astronaut-photographers. In reality, the lack of depth of field problems is a
nail in the coffin of the Apollo program.



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Must be true. Cause no body knows crooks and liars like Romanianshf
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All nations are full of crooks and liars.
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"There are no stars in the photos, Frank."
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we could go down the laundry list...

hasselblad camera film would've MELTED in 250f

radioactive solar particles would've gone right through the cameras and destroyed film

---------------------------------------

another excellent webpage analyzing legendary director Stanley Kubrick's alleged involvement in the Apollo mission, fake backdrops utilized, etc. (50% rule applied here)
spock
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Geezus, you call that < 50% ???

So you copy other people's talking points and claims without any critical thinking on your own part.

Did you ever think that maybe, just maybe that NASA consulted with Kubrick because they wanted his experience on how to best film the mission for publicity and historical record?

Seriously, this was the 'first time' modern humans were going to step foot on the moon. NASA probably wanted to know how best to setup camera viewpoints, etc from an accomplished director.

BTW - I use the term 'first time' modern humans, because I believe we've previously already been to the moon. Just another part of history that has been hidden and rewritten by those in power. Because knowledge is power...
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Really having to dig deep into conspiracy THEORY to reach that conclusion huh?

As a teenager, I got to shake Dr. Edgar Mitchell's hand at a conference my father (25 yr USAF Korean/Vietnam veteran) took me. It was his talk about his NASA career and science that got me interested in getting pursuing electronics/computer science. He definitely earned my respect and trust, especially on his later statements regarding UFO's, ET's and Roswell.

You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, "Look at that, you son of a bitch."
—&#8201;Mitchell on seeing the Earth from the Moon.
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"There are no stars in the photos, Frank."
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we could go down the laundry list...

hasselblad camera film would've MELTED in 250f

radioactive solar particles would've gone right through the cameras and destroyed film
 Quoting: VHS 1897079

Since you make this claim, you must be familiar with this matter and must have done the math.

Thus it should be easy for you to answer the questions below:

* What kind of film was used?
* What kind of Hasselblad camera was used?
* Was the camera modified?
* If "yes", in which way?
* How much heat could go into the camera?
* How much radiation could go into the camera?
* What kind of radiation?

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If the Moon is off, if Earth wobbles or if there is a pole shift
how can things like this, predicted decades ago, happen?

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"There are no stars in the photos, Frank."
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we could go down the laundry list...

hasselblad camera film would've MELTED in 250f

radioactive solar particles would've gone right through the cameras and destroyed film
 Quoting: VHS 1897079

Since you make this claim, you must be familiar with this matter and must have done the math.

Thus it should be easy for you to answer the questions below:

* What kind of film was used?
* What kind of Hasselblad camera was used?
* Was the camera modified?
* If "yes", in which way?
* How much heat could go into the camera?
* How much radiation could go into the camera?
* What kind of radiation?

.
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^^^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^^^

Hail Hydra!
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"There are no stars in the photos, Frank."
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we could go down the laundry list...

hasselblad camera film would've MELTED in 250f
 Quoting: VHS 1897079

Which is the max temperature of the surface, which didn't occur in the short time they were there and the camera never came in contact with the surface.

radioactive solar particles would've gone right through the cameras and destroyed film
 Quoting: VHS 1897079

Quantify this radiation. Bet you can't.


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snip nonsense about Kubrick
Kubrick was provably busy with other projects at the time. He was also in the UK and had a fear of flying. His 2001 footage looks nothing like Apollo. Apollo footage clearly shows low gravity and a vacuum which 2001 does not.

Plus front screen projection doesn't work when objects in the foreground are highly reflective, like the astronaut's suits.

5. Depth of Field: More Evidence


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The hasselblad cameras notaly had wide angle lenses. Depth of field is related more to the lens and not the film
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Many sources inside the military industrial complex have
related to me that after John Kennedy was shown the flying saucer technology early in his Presidency, he realized that the advances in technology promised
by the flying saucers could solve many of the pressing problems of the world.

He saw that releasing this exotic technology would point the way towards cheap and environmentally friendly energy among other things.

Soon after seeing the flying saucer technology, JFK made his famous speech asking NASA to land a man on the moon before the decade was out.

Many insiders believed that this was a ploy by JFK to get NASA, and the secret government, to release their saucer technologies. Since it was obvious to everyone that standard rocket technology could not get man to the moon and back, JFK may have thought that NASA would be forced to release the knowledge of the technology behind the flying saucers in order to fulfill his vision and get to the moon by the end of the 1960s. JFK’s ploy was therefore intended to free this advanced technology from the insidious hands of the shadow government.

After the assassination of Kennedy in 1963, NASA began a new plan that would solve the problem that JFK initiated. This new plan would allow NASA, and the shadow government, to keep the saucer technology secret and to
still make it look like standard rocketry had taken man to the moon and back.
....
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This actually makes sense, especially in the light of Kennedy's anti-secrecy speech. I think people will agree:

1) that Kennedy did oppose the secret government.
2) that science books from the 1950's show that the conventional understanding was that to reach the Moon with rocket technology, one would have to build a space station as an intermediate point, etc. Even Werner Von Braun promoted that approach. In other words, no one expected a regular rocket to go to and from the Moon.
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5 stars, OP. Our corrupt criminal govt has been lying to us since the end of WW2 about virtually everything. One criminal activity or propaganda program after another. The Moon Landing is just another hoax they concocted.

Glad to see you referencing WC as he was an amazing guy, amazing mind. I came to him very late. Even here on GLP it can be a problem though as I was writing about him at one point and got banned. So many people hate the truth.
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STANLEY KUBRICK - SHINING CODE - DETAILS ABOUT APOLLO 'FAKE' MISSION IN KUBRICK'S FILM, "THE SHINING"
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Really having to dig deep into conspiracy THEORY to reach that conclusion huh?

As a teenager, I got to shake Dr. Edgar Mitchell's hand at a conference my father (25 yr USAF Korean/Vietnam veteran) took me. It was his talk about his NASA career and science that got me interested in getting pursuing electronics/computer science. He definitely earned my respect and trust, especially on his later statements regarding UFO's, ET's and Roswell.

You develop an instant global consciousness, a people orientation, an intense dissatisfaction with the state of the world, and a compulsion to do something about it. From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, "Look at that, you son of a bitch."
—&#8201;Mitchell on seeing the Earth from the Moon.
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The astronauts may actually have thought they DID go to the moon. Give them enough of certain types of drugs, hypnosis, mental conditioning and you could probably convince them they were James Kirk on The Enterprise. We have to go with PHYSICAL facts rather than what people say. The physical facts support that we did NOT go to the moon. The LEM, only flown once on earth, was a sad joke.
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This video really does a brilliant job of summing up the impossibility of fitting two astronauts in full gear (with the camera in front each would measure 3 ft deep) into a space that at best, is 2 feet deep.

The truth of many conspiracies - CONSPIRACY REALITY - can be found in the examination of small physical details and whether they are physical possible or probable. Like the old Columbo mystery movies - Lt. Columbo would trip up his suspect on tiny details that would be the incontrovertible physical proof. Not testimony, not eyewitnesses, not even paper or photos....just actual physical details that cannot be explained away.

That's what we have here. Those astronauts could not physically have fit in that space and got out that door. It's not PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE. That is the truth of it.

Did they send something - anything to the moon? Possibly an unmanned craft, who knows. But NOT what they showed us. It's not PHYSICALLY possible. As for the astronauts themselves, I would love to know the kind of mental conditioning program they each had to undergo. I think they all genuinely DID believe they went to the moon, and they probably could have been conditioned to think they met the Romulan ambassador too. That's the level of brainwashing they probably go through.
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STANLEY KUBRICK - SHINING CODE - DETAILS ABOUT APOLLO 'FAKE' MISSION IN KUBRICK'S FILM, "THE SHINING"
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^Excellent!
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Whenever I think of the moon landing bullshit I always think of the James Bond movie "Diamonds are Forever". In that movie, there's a sequence where James Bond gets into a complex in the desert where they're shooting.....moon videos. With a lunar capsule and astronauts and rovers....it looks just the kind of set up that they might actually have used to film this bullshit. Bond ends up stealing one of the Rovers to escape the bad guys and breaks out of the complex into the real desert.

And that probably is as good a summation of our moon "landing" as any.....
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Whenever I think of the moon landing bullshit I always think of the James Bond movie "Diamonds are Forever". In that movie, there's a sequence where James Bond gets into a complex in the desert where they're shooting.....moon videos. With a lunar capsule and astronauts and rovers....it looks just the kind of set up that they might actually have used to film this bullshit. Bond ends up stealing one of the Rovers to escape the bad guys and breaks out of the complex into the real desert.

And that probably is as good a summation of our moon "landing" as any.....
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The funny thing is that movie was made very soon after the Apollo program.

That scene makes no real contribution to the plot of the Bond movie; it just seems to have been forced into the movie, as if someone wanted to send some kind of message to the viewers.
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Whenever I think of the moon landing bullshit I always think of the James Bond movie "Diamonds are Forever". In that movie, there's a sequence where James Bond gets into a complex in the desert where they're shooting.....moon videos. With a lunar capsule and astronauts and rovers....it looks just the kind of set up that they might actually have used to film this bullshit. Bond ends up stealing one of the Rovers to escape the bad guys and breaks out of the complex into the real desert.

And that probably is as good a summation of our moon "landing" as any.....
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"your" Moon landing maybe...my generation, and ones before it, actually learned stuff in school, and didn't need a handheld brain to do their higher brain functions for them......because you haven't a clue how things work in the real world is not our problem.
To win an argument, you need to understand both sides...and you don't.
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Whenever I think of the moon landing bullshit I always think of the James Bond movie "Diamonds are Forever". In that movie, there's a sequence where James Bond gets into a complex in the desert where they're shooting.....moon videos. With a lunar capsule and astronauts and rovers....it looks just the kind of set up that they might actually have used to film this bullshit. Bond ends up stealing one of the Rovers to escape the bad guys and breaks out of the complex into the real desert.

And that probably is as good a summation of our moon "landing" as any.....
 Quoting: Mehitable 68162485


The funny thing is that movie was made very soon after the Apollo program.

That scene makes no real contribution to the plot of the Bond movie; it just seems to have been forced into the movie, as if someone wanted to send some kind of message to the viewers.
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That is exactly how I took it. Every time I see that movie, which I do probably a couple of times a year as I'm a big James Bond fan, I'm amazed at how it looks JUST LIKE THE KIND OF SET THEY WOULD HAVE NEEDED AND USED. It's so realistic. In fact, I think it's how it was done, and I agree, I think it's a message as well.

That's why I always loved James Bond - the books by British spy master Ian Fleming, who definitely knew his shit, and the movies, which seem to forecast so many things that we now that for granted. Even many of the plots are prescient. I do believe that something like SPECTRE exists, of course, it's not really called SPECTRE but it's an international crime organization that probably many in our govt belong to. And there's probably more than one. If people examine the plots and gadgets in the Bond movies over time, it's amazing how much is shown.

People can laugh if they want to, but they actually DO show us a lot in movies. I understand that's part of their way of excusing their lying - they put it out in public so those who are smart and open enough can pick up on it. The rest are just considered dummies who don't matter if they're fooled.
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Whenever I think of the moon landing bullshit I always think of the James Bond movie "Diamonds are Forever". In that movie, there's a sequence where James Bond gets into a complex in the desert where they're shooting.....moon videos. With a lunar capsule and astronauts and rovers....it looks just the kind of set up that they might actually have used to film this bullshit. Bond ends up stealing one of the Rovers to escape the bad guys and breaks out of the complex into the real desert.

And that probably is as good a summation of our moon "landing" as any.....
 Quoting: Mehitable 68162485


"your" Moon landing maybe...my generation, and ones before it, actually learned stuff in school, and didn't need a handheld brain to do their higher brain functions for them......because you haven't a clue how things work in the real world is not our problem.
To win an argument, you need to understand both sides...and you don't.
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Don't throw your condescending bullshit at me. I'm over 60 fucking years old and I watched the moon "landing" on TV. This was an OBVIOUS FRAUD when you examine the actual physical details, like this researcher does in this excellent video. There are things like the space clearances in the LEM and the door space, etc, that you simply cannot explain away. IT'S A PHYSICAL REALITY. You can't fit 2 astronauts 3 feet deep through a door that's only 2 feet deep. The clearances here are grossly insufficient. And who would use an LEM that had only flown on earth ONCE and according to the video nearly blew up that time, almost killing Neil Armstrong? Why are there no stars in these videos? How can we clearly see blue sky through the module windows? How can there be dust clouds on the moon with no atmosphere? Why is the earth the wrong size?

There's just too many PHYSICAL questions here. You don't need eye witness testimony, you don't need paperwork (thank God because apparently they destroyed it all at all the companies and contractors involved), you don't even need photos for some of this...you just need to examine the actual physical dimensions....just like a Lt. Columbo would do...and that's when the truth comes out.

NASA relies on a couple of things....the simple power of belief....and that until the Internet it was very hard to disseminate real physical evidence to a wide enough group of people who might understand it. So moon hoaxery was left to be dissected by the tiny group of people who were both open enough to the concept of our govt's MASSIVE LYING and who could examine the technical evidence.

Now with the Internet that group has enlargened enormously. We can ALL SEE THE LIE.
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Whenever I think of the moon landing bullshit I always think of the James Bond movie "Diamonds are Forever". In that movie, there's a sequence where James Bond gets into a complex in the desert where they're shooting.....moon videos. With a lunar capsule and astronauts and rovers....it looks just the kind of set up that they might actually have used to film this bullshit. Bond ends up stealing one of the Rovers to escape the bad guys and breaks out of the complex into the real desert.

And that probably is as good a summation of our moon "landing" as any.....
 Quoting: Mehitable 68162485


"your" Moon landing maybe...my generation, and ones before it, actually learned stuff in school, and didn't need a handheld brain to do their higher brain functions for them......because you haven't a clue how things work in the real world is not our problem.
To win an argument, you need to understand both sides...and you don't.
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Don't throw your condescending bullshit at me. I'm over 60 fucking years old and I watched the moon "landing" on TV. This was an OBVIOUS FRAUD when you examine the actual physical details, like this researcher does in this excellent video. There are things like the space clearances in the LEM and the door space, etc, that you simply cannot explain away. IT'S A PHYSICAL REALITY. You can't fit 2 astronauts 3 feet deep through a door that's only 2 feet deep. The clearances here are grossly insufficient. And who would use an LEM that had only flown on earth ONCE and according to the video nearly blew up that time, almost killing Neil Armstrong? Why are there no stars in these videos? How can we clearly see blue sky through the module windows? How can there be dust clouds on the moon with no atmosphere? Why is the earth the wrong size?

There's just too many PHYSICAL questions here. You don't need eye witness testimony, you don't need paperwork (thank God because apparently they destroyed it all at all the companies and contractors involved), you don't even need photos for some of this...you just need to examine the actual physical dimensions....just like a Lt. Columbo would do...and that's when the truth comes out.

NASA relies on a couple of things....the simple power of belief....and that until the Internet it was very hard to disseminate real physical evidence to a wide enough group of people who might understand it. So moon hoaxery was left to be dissected by the tiny group of people who were both open enough to the concept of our govt's MASSIVE LYING and who could examine the technical evidence.

Now with the Internet that group has enlargened enormously. We can ALL SEE THE LIE.
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63 here...recently retired.
I suggest you take a class in space science. Learn about orbital mechanics, Newton's laws and the like. There is a lot of space stuff that seems contradictory...in orbit, you "speed up" (add orbital energy) to slow down (your orbital "groundspeed"). Thrusting directly away from Earth lowers the opposite side of your orbit.
It's only seen as a "lie" to you because you don't get the science and physics...and are determined not to...
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Whenever I think of the moon landing bullshit I always think of the James Bond movie "Diamonds are Forever". In that movie, there's a sequence where James Bond gets into a complex in the desert where they're shooting.....moon videos. With a lunar capsule and astronauts and rovers....it looks just the kind of set up that they might actually have used to film this bullshit. Bond ends up stealing one of the Rovers to escape the bad guys and breaks out of the complex into the real desert.

And that probably is as good a summation of our moon "landing" as any.....
 Quoting: Mehitable 68162485


"your" Moon landing maybe...my generation, and ones before it, actually learned stuff in school, and didn't need a handheld brain to do their higher brain functions for them......because you haven't a clue how things work in the real world is not our problem.
To win an argument, you need to understand both sides...and you don't.
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Don't throw your condescending bullshit at me. I'm over 60 fucking years old and I watched the moon "landing" on TV. This was an OBVIOUS FRAUD when you examine the actual physical details, like this researcher does in this excellent video. There are things like the space clearances in the LEM and the door space, etc, that you simply cannot explain away. IT'S A PHYSICAL REALITY. You can't fit 2 astronauts 3 feet deep through a door that's only 2 feet deep. The clearances here are grossly insufficient. And who would use an LEM that had only flown on earth ONCE and according to the video nearly blew up that time, almost killing Neil Armstrong? Why are there no stars in these videos? How can we clearly see blue sky through the module windows? How can there be dust clouds on the moon with no atmosphere? Why is the earth the wrong size?

There's just too many PHYSICAL questions here. You don't need eye witness testimony, you don't need paperwork (thank God because apparently they destroyed it all at all the companies and contractors involved), you don't even need photos for some of this...you just need to examine the actual physical dimensions....just like a Lt. Columbo would do...and that's when the truth comes out.

NASA relies on a couple of things....the simple power of belief....and that until the Internet it was very hard to disseminate real physical evidence to a wide enough group of people who might understand it. So moon hoaxery was left to be dissected by the tiny group of people who were both open enough to the concept of our govt's MASSIVE LYING and who could examine the technical evidence.

Now with the Internet that group has enlargened enormously. We can ALL SEE THE LIE.
 Quoting: Mehitable 68162485


63 here...recently retired.
I suggest you take a class in space science. Learn about orbital mechanics, Newton's laws and the like. There is a lot of space stuff that seems contradictory...in orbit, you "speed up" (add orbital energy) to slow down (your orbital "groundspeed"). Thrusting directly away from Earth lowers the opposite side of your orbit.
It's only seen as a "lie" to you because you don't get the science and physics...and are determined not to...
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Again....please shove your condescending bullshit straight up your ass, where I'm sure it will fit better than those astronauts fit in that LEM capsule. Have you actually WATCHED THE VIDEO??????

I don't need degrees in space science to understand that a 3 foot wide astronaut (or 2), from backpack to suit to camera, CANNOT FIT THROUGH A 2 FOOT WIDE DOOR. It doesn't take any fucking degrees to understand that. It only takes a RULER.

Of course, I'm simplifying this and only focusing on ONE thing of many points the filmmaker makes. People, watch the actual video. Don't listen to these liars like this fellow who think you need advanced degrees to understand the simple mechanics of our real physical world. Your attention and common sense are enough. Our government has lied to us about EVERYTHING for DECADES.
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there are several videos showing the astronauts going back into the LM as well.
It was a tight fit, which they had practiced on Earth many times.
(remember, the suits were pressurized with 100% O2, at a relative low pressure, read up on partial pressure.. they didn't need 14.7psi)
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there are several videos showing the astronauts going back into the LM as well.
It was a tight fit, which they had practiced on Earth many times.
(remember, the suits were pressurized with 100% O2, at a relative low pressure, read up on partial pressure.. they didn't need 14.7psi)
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No, it wasn't a "tight" fit. It was an IMPOSSIBLE fit. You can't fit 3 foot wide astronauts through a 2 foot wide OPENING!

This is why this video is so important. The film maker actually went back and MEASURED THINGS. This is like the Columbo angle I was mentioning - sometimes you come up against hard physical realities that can only be explained in one way.

The film maker also says that the LEM was only flown on earth ONCE and that it blew up nearly killing Neil Armstrong. Now, I don't care how many fake videos you make showing astronauts going in and out of SIMULATORS that have different dimensions than the LEM (which the film maker goes into), but would YOU use a device on the MOON that had only been tried on earth ONCE and FAILED?????

Watch the video, people. Of course there are many videos about the NASA lies, but this is perhaps, the best I've seen.

The US government has been lying to us for decades, at least since the end of WW2 about EVERYTHING. Virtually EVERYTHING they have told us...the JFK assassination, the Vietnam War, the Moon landing, Waco, 9/11, both Iraq wars, Barack Obama's background, etc etc etc...have all been based on LIES. This is why what is happening now with Trump is SO important because the truth is finally breaking out. After 50+ years, FINALLY the truth is coming out and they desperately trying to stop it. The moon landing is only ONE set of lies. THERE ARE MANY.
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We have long gotten away from facts and into the world of theories and opinions where so many things can be discussed and positioned, with no actual essential truth being depicted. That's why FACTS are so important, which is what this film maker does.

Consider a few FACTS about Barack Obama for example. We could go over and over again, testimony about him, or conjectures or theories, but just a couple of facts:

1. His birth certificate put on the WH site, IS A FORGERY and this has been PROVEN forensically by a law enforcement team.

And

2. His Social Security number is that of a man who lived and died in Connecticut, in 1979, IIRC. A fellow originally from Russia, named Harrison J. Bounel.

Now we can speculate WHY the ex POTUS has a fake birth certificate and a fake SSN (or I should say, he's using a dead guy's SSN), and we could come up with various reasons, but our STAETING POINT....info that we KNOW, and is provable and can be readily obtained...is that these items are FAKE, and he is therefore LYING to us. That's the starting point.

With the moon video here, the starting point is the LEM hatch dimension and it goes from there. Once you know they're lying....then you can start to collect other evidence, and eventually speculate as to WHY they're lying. But the facts have to come first.
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