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UPDATE 13/03 The secret meltdown in Norway is stepping in Fukushima footsteps! Iodine 131 in Europe again! #IAEA #UNSCEAR

 
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UPDATE 13/03 The secret meltdown in Norway is stepping in Fukushima footsteps! Iodine 131 in Europe again! #IAEA #UNSCEAR
FULL PERMISSION: AUTHOR: Sean McGee (Archlight2011) of nuclear-news.net


Just a quick forward to this article from Bellona.org. Bellona is a Norwegian based NGO specialists in nuclear waste cleanup and safety. Both Nils Bohmer and Charles William Digges were in Tokyo within the first days of the Fukushima nuclear meltdown and offered their services and high specification radiation detection equipment to the Japanese government to measure the all important first days releases from the nuclear disaster of 2011.

These early measurements would have been crucial and also a requirement of the IAEA`s safety protocols (post Chernobyl) to ascertain the likely heath impacts to the surrounding areas to the Fukushima nuclear plant meltdown disaster. The Japanese government refused their kind offer and it was another 2 years before Nils and Charles could get to the Fukushima disaster site.

This lack of nuclear safety culture and cover up was mentioned in the official IAEA Fukushima accident report and it seems also ignored by the Halden management.

So, this couldnt happen again could it? Well it has no only happened again but there was no media reporting of the October 2016 meltdown (ongoing) that is producing iodine 131 and hydrogen to either the Norwegian public nor Bellona (that is based in Oslo Norway just north of the Halden Thorium Research reactor) until Bellona were contacted by myself (Shaun McGee arclight2011 the blogger) only a week ago asking for clarification of the safety of the melted fuel rods and radiation emission status.

Nils has seen fit to make a report on the few facts he could glean. No early radiation measurements to this disaster have been released except that EURDEP has some gaps in its radiation data from the Halden and Oslo radiation monitors even from as late as February 2017


And Sweden ;

Here is a statement from Nils Bohmer from Bellona on this nuclear situation and some of the history and facts he has been able to get an update on;
Norway’s Halden Reactor: A poor safety culture and a history of near misses

Published on March 3, 2017 by , Nils Bøhmer


Are those who operate Norway’s only nuclear research reactor taking its safety seriously? A new report raises concerns.

October 25th brought reports that there was a release of radioactive iodine from the Halden Reactor. The Norwegian Radiation Protection Authority subsequently withdrew the reactor’s operating license from the Institute for Energy Technology. The NRPA has pointed out several issues the institute must resolve before the reactor goes back online.

It’s not the first time the NRPA has had to issue an order to the IFE. The NRPA had been supervising the IFE since 2014 over its lack of safety culture. The incident in October shows this frame of mind persists.

Reactor cooling blocked

So what happened in October? The iodine emission began when the IFE should have dealt with damaged fuel in the reactor hall. This led to a release of radioactive substances via the ventilation system. The release began on Monday, October 24 at 1:45 pm, but was first reported to the NRPA the next morning.

The next day, the NRPA conducted an unannounced inspection of the IFE. The situation was still unresolved and radioactive released were still ongoing from the reactor hall. The ventilation system was then shut off to limit further releases into the environment.

This, in turn, created more serious problems. When the ventilation system was closed down, the air coming from the process should also have been turned off. Pressurize air kept the valves in the reactor’s cooling system open, which in turn stopped the circulation of cooling water.

‘A very special condition’

In the following days, the NRPA continued to monitor the reactor’s safety, and many repeated questions about the closure of the primary cooling circuit. The IFE initially reported that the situation at the reactor was not “abnormal.” By November 1, the NRPA requested written documentation from the responsible operating and safety managers. A few hours later, the NRPA received notice from the IFE that the reactor was in “a very special condition.”

What that meant was that the IFE had discovered temperature fluctuations in the reactor vessel indicating an increased neutron flux in the core, and with that the danger of hydrogen formation. Bellona would like to note that it was hydrogen formation in the reactor core that led to a series of explosions at the Fukushima Nuclear Power Plant in March 2011.

The IFE therefore had to ask the NRPA for permission to open the valves again, even if that meant releasing radiation to the public. The release that followed was, according to the NRPA, within the emission limit values specified in the operating permit.

In Summary

The IFE has been under special supervision by the NRPA, but it doesn’t seem to Bellona that the IFE has taken the requirement for increased reporting nearly seriously enough. It seems they further didn’t understand the seriousness of the situation that arose in October. The IFE either neglected procedures it’s obligated to follow, made insufficient measurements, or failed to report the results satisfactorily.
Bellona is concerned that the reactor core may become unstable by just closing the vents. Hydrogen formation in the reactor core is very serious, as Fukushima showed. The IFE has previously stopped circulation in the primary cooling circuit for, among other things, maintenance while the reactor has been shut down.

Those who live around Halden had previously been satisfied with guarantees that the ravine in which the reactor could hermetically seal it off. As the incident in October shows, this guarantee no longer applies.
Nils Bøhmer is Bellona’s general director.

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Apparently no one cares till their hair falls out and skin peels off.

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Apparently no one cares till their hair falls out and skin peels off.

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indeed...
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Shit, i'm going to Norway in May.
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Perth,

I'm convinced Fukushima is an ELE...No doubt about it!

However, why isn't there a massive die odd of humans in Japan, Hawaii and California?

How long will it take for this shit to kill the Pacific and turn it into a Dead Sea?

Thanks for all you do, Perth. You're a good bloke even though MarPep doesn't think so.
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Shit, i live in finland. Well, born 86', got my shares of radiation back then.
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Apparently no one cares till their hair falls out and skin peels off.

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indeed...
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You are doing a great job, keep coordinated, and update us. Great photos and comparison charts would help regularly too. imo
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2 drunk for this shit.

can anyone put op's post in a simple form plz?
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Perth,

I'm convinced Fukushima is an ELE...No doubt about it!

However, why isn't there a massive die odd of humans in Japan, Hawaii and California?

How long will it take for this shit to kill the Pacific and turn it into a Dead Sea?

Thanks for all you do, Perth. You're a good bloke even though MarPep doesn't think so.
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MarPep counts for so little.... do a history of his other posts over the years and you will see what other shit he has peddled and trolled over the years... he was "expert" on those as well.... he's not my concern....

the workings of this event are still unfolding.. let's face it.. it has never happened before.. but the global cover-up is abundantly evidenced and documented, within itself, of massive concern...
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2 drunk for this shit.

can anyone put op's post in a simple form plz?
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possible/probable nuke melt down has been zeroed in and found in a nuke plant in norway.

remember that "mysterious" nuke event in europe over the last couple of weeks?... evidence points to where the found it.

ad edit: go to the link at nukenews? and you will see the graphs that they scrubbed of data when the event occurred...

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2 drunk for this shit.

can anyone put op's post in a simple form plz?
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So this has to be some small reactor, right?

And they should have it under control by now?

Please tell me this is not a new Chernobyl?

Not sure if I can survive another one of these
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So this has to be some small reactor, right?

And they should have it under control by now?

Please tell me this is not a new Chernobyl?

Not sure if I can survive another one of these
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The public unfortunately has been 'programmed' to always believe the experts paraded before them on the fashion show ramp.

We believe the experts, like we believe our teachers... authority figures.

As long as they're not your parents, see, you can believe them?

So what do we have?

Modern society as a whole is a puff piece --

* medical practice is a fraud

* democracy (local to federal) is full of cheaters

* education has become a joke, no matter how many degrees you have

* nuclear power is NOT REGULATED

* banking is a con game

* foods in the grocery stores are toxic

* water is now contaminated around the world

* the air you breathe is poisoned

GOOD NEWS:

IN TEN YEARS THE PLANET EARTH WILL BE A BURNED OUT HUSK.

Actually, I'm serious. The ozone layer has barely that much time left.
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2 drunk for this shit.

can anyone put op's post in a simple form plz?
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possible/probable nuke melt down has been zeroed in and found in a nuke plant in norway.

remember that "mysterious" nuke event in europe over the last couple of weeks?... evidence points to where the found it.

ad edit: go to the link at nukenews? and you will see the graphs that they scrubbed of data when the event occurred...
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thx
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Good catch, Citizen Perth

Norway not EU full member, but would they have to keep it quiet under Eu censorship "don't tell the mushrooms anything" laws? Of course, they have their own reasons for silence, but it seems the EU would squawk and want reparations for the pollution.

Funny how fast they blamed Russia "From Russia With Love" being the headline. This was almost certainly pre-scripted, like the obituaries on file of all the celebrities and politicians "just in case".

Hah!

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5 Stars CP.

Thank you for keeping us in the picture. Much appreciated.
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2 drunk for this shit.

can anyone put op's post in a simple form plz?
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possible/probable nuke melt down has been zeroed in and found in a nuke plant in norway.

remember that "mysterious" nuke event in europe over the last couple of weeks?... evidence points to where the found it.

ad edit: go to the link at nukenews? and you will see the graphs that they scrubbed of data when the event occurred...
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Maybe THATS why they are stuffing those countries with "immigrants"
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Re: UPDATE 13/03 The secret meltdown in Norway is stepping in Fukushima footsteps! Iodine 131 in Europe again! #IAEA #UNSCEAR
I have it on good authority that there might be an issue with the mixing of HEU (Highly Enriched Uranium) because thorium reactors are supposed to deal with nuclear waste.. they were likely buring HEU in the reactor and it overheated and melted the ceramic thorium fuel rods down.. so this is more like a Chernobyl type human error through experimentation issue .

Nothing to see here .. Unless the hydrogen neutron fluxing makes a big explosion then it will be more like a hybrid Chernobyl Fukushima Daichi unit 3 sort of meltdown and explosion.. This will be interesting to the nuclear companies because they havent had one of them before

.. most interesting.. Of course there will be no "immediate health concerns" apart from the very worried and underpayed nuclear workers of course and possibly the whole of OSLO and some of Sweden.. but no worries there because they are all wankers anyway ..

maybe leave norwegian soft cheeses alone for a few more months until we find out the extent of the contamination? travel to norway should be with a decent geiger counter and many cans of argentinian corned beef (to be on the safe side .. Other than that i can se no problems
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But... Isn't Iodine-131 a byproduct of a nuclear explosion?

In any case Thorium and cool reactors should be the way of the future. Screw Uranium and the nuclear weapon byproducts. We already have 10000x what's needed to blow this place to bits.
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Good catch, Citizen Perth

Norway not EU full member, but would they have to keep it quiet under Eu censorship "don't tell the mushrooms anything" laws? Of course, they have their own reasons for silence, but it seems the EU would squawk and want reparations for the pollution.

Funny how fast they blamed Russia "From Russia With Love" being the headline. This was almost certainly pre-scripted, like the obituaries on file of all the celebrities and politicians "just in case".

Hah!
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Actually Norway is a member of Euratom, the IAEA and the ESPOO treaty on cross border contamination .. but as its only the swedes and danish that are likely recipients of the cocktail of isotopes, no one cares.. LOL
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This has already been debunked as fear mongering.
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But... Isn't Iodine-131 a byproduct of a nuclear explosion?

In any case Thorium and cool reactors should be the way of the future. Screw Uranium and the nuclear weapon byproducts. We already have 10000x what's needed to blow this place to bits.
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IOdine 131 (the only official reported isotope on this incident is a result of Fission and this means nuclear explosions and reactions within reactors (thorium and Uranium reactors, it doesnt matter which) there are of course other isotopes such a noble gases like xenon and radon etc and isotopes like cesium, plutonium, Lead Pb, polonium etc etc but the IAEA will not release these results because it would be embarrassing and the public are pretty thick anyway and would just get a headache trying to read the big words ..
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the workings of this event are still unfolding.. let's face it.. it has never happened before.. but the global cover-up is abundantly evidenced and documented, within itself, of massive concern...
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Pinning this thread. If its not of massive concern now it will be soon. Great thread, thanks Perth.
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I think this is sabotage.

First Japan and now the Nordics.

These are people that the international banking cabal 'you know who' want dead.
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You got to be kidding?

did it blow the top off too?

suprised it took so long for this one to come out.





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