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Unarmed Airman shot by police at traffic accident-- Ruled a justified shooting

 
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Police the police.. If it were anyone else they would be arrested and charged with multiple felonies.

Because it was a police officer, it was justified. Police should be held to a higher standard than civilians yet.. Here we have an officer shooting an unarmed airman for no reason and he gets exonerated.

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I don't know what kind of police or court systems you have there in Alabama.. I thought police were held to a higher standard than the people they are supposed to protect. If someone were to engage in such activity WITHOUT a badge, they'd be locked up indefinitely with multiple felony charges.

Nope. Not with your department. Call the police for a minor traffic accident, get shot for NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE!!

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If that was my dad, there would be a pig & his family being buried soon
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I'd have to go with the officer on this one.

Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid.
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I'd have to go with the officer on this one.

Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid.
 Quoting: G. House


The guy was exiting his car at an angle. The police officer was responding to a minor traffic accident. Do we want to hire individuals who actively seek out confrontation and violence at minor traffic stops?
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Then the cop lets the guy writhe on the ground without rendering aid for over 5 minutes.

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That fat slob ruined that young man's life, without having any clear danger to himself. You can see that the exit wound was through his sacro-iliac area. That will cause trouble forever. Damned justice system is screwed up, too.
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That was an attempted murder of a fellow veteran.
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Don't go to Alabama. Don't go to Texas. Don't go to the states. BOycott the place.
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I'd have to go with the officer on this one.

Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid.
 Quoting: G. House


Bullshit.

He struggled to get out of the car in a way that wasn't threatening. The cop just wanted to murder someone that night, pure and simple.

Veterans won't forget what this cop did to one of our own.
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Just think next time
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I'd have to go with the officer on this one.

Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid.
 Quoting: G. House


Bullshit.

He struggled to get out of the car in a way that wasn't threatening. The cop just wanted to murder someone that night, pure and simple.

Veterans won't forget what this cop did to one of our own.
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LOL, you won't do shit ...
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I'd have to go with the officer on this one.

Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid.
 Quoting: G. House


The guy was exiting his car at an angle. The police officer was responding to a minor traffic accident. Do we want to hire individuals who actively seek out confrontation and violence at minor traffic stops?
 Quoting: ScoutsOUT


Excuse me?

He was holding his wallet with two hands in such a way it looked like he was lining up and pointing a handgun.

People should use a little common sense and not act erratically in a threatening manner in situations like that.

And have a little empathy for the policeman. If the guy did have two hands on a handgun and was in that position there was little time to react.

Minor traffic accident? Guy was reported driving erratically and then hit another vehicle. The driver then gets out of the vehicle and does what is described above.

Sorry, but the fault here does not lie with the officer.

It's really good though that a video captured this so the officer was exonerated.

And I'm not saying that there are not occasions where officers are clearly in the wrong or unjustly heavy handed. I do indeed thing there is a huge problem in our country with this issue. This incident is not one of them though.
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That fat slob ruined that young man's life, without having any clear danger to himself. You can see that the exit wound was through his sacro-iliac area. That will cause trouble forever. Damned justice system is screwed up, too.
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As a child I had this image of the local police officers as being these valiant defenders of peace and willing to "take a bullet" for me.

This mindset was not isolated. Our perceptions of police have changed over the years. The police's perception of how to perform their job has also changed over the years. No longer are police willing to "put their life on the line." It has become "my life is more important than everyone around."

I don't want police to get shot and injured. Even less do I want police shooting unarmed and innocent citizens. If given a choice between an unarmed and innocent citizen being shot, or a police officer, it really should be the police officer. THEY signed up for the job. THEY know the risk. THEY are the ones supposedly sworn to "protect and defend."

The officer should have waited another moment. He shouldn't have arrived at the scene with offensive posturing. It was a freaking accident scene. How many accidents do these officers investigate on a daily basis? Is firearm violence against police officers at routine traffic stops statistically a problem?

Highly doubt it.

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If that was my dad, there would be a pig & his family being buried soon
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That's what the commies don't get. If we cannot have justice they shall not have life.
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I'd have to go with the officer on this one.

Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid.
 Quoting: G. House


The guy was exiting his car at an angle. The police officer was responding to a minor traffic accident. Do we want to hire individuals who actively seek out confrontation and violence at minor traffic stops?
 Quoting: ScoutsOUT


Excuse me?

He was holding his wallet with two hands in such a way it looked like he was lining up and pointing a handgun.

People should use a little common sense and not act erratically in a threatening manner in situations like that.

And have a little empathy for the policeman. If the guy did have two hands on a handgun and was in that position there was little time to react.

Minor traffic accident? Guy was reported driving erratically and then hit another vehicle. The driver then gets out of the vehicle and does what is described above.

Sorry, but the fault here does not lie with the officer.

It's really good though that a video captured this so the officer was exonerated.

And I'm not saying that there are not occasions where officers are clearly in the wrong or unjustly heavy handed. I do indeed thing there is a huge problem in our country with this issue. This incident is not one of them though.
 Quoting: G. House


You're out of your mind. I'm not going to address it. You shouldn't get shot at minor traffic accidents. He left the car expecting to exchange paperwork, not to be engaged by a trigger-happy cop.

Are police above the law? Would you be able to justify similar actions if involved in a similar situation but without a badge?
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I'd have to go with the officer on this one.

Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid.
 Quoting: G. House


Bullshit.

He struggled to get out of the car in a way that wasn't threatening. The cop just wanted to murder someone that night, pure and simple.

Veterans won't forget what this cop did to one of our own.
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Wow! You are one stupid son of a bitch!

You don't hold your hands together like that with something in your hands, in the dark, at night, when an officer is giving you instructions to show your hands.
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I'd have to go with the officer on this one.

Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid.
 Quoting: G. House


Bullshit.

He struggled to get out of the car in a way that wasn't threatening. The cop just wanted to murder someone that night, pure and simple.

Veterans won't forget what this cop did to one of our own.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 67268914


Wow! You are one stupid son of a bitch!

You don't hold your hands together like that with something in your hands, in the dark, at night, when an officer is giving you instructions to show your hands.
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Are you prior military?
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I noticed a fat piece of shit start calling a man sir long after he was shot.
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I'd have to go with the officer on this one.

Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid.
 Quoting: G. House


The guy was exiting his car at an angle. The police officer was responding to a minor traffic accident. Do we want to hire individuals who actively seek out confrontation and violence at minor traffic stops?
 Quoting: ScoutsOUT


Excuse me?

He was holding his wallet with two hands in such a way it looked like he was lining up and pointing a handgun.

People should use a little common sense and not act erratically in a threatening manner in situations like that.

And have a little empathy for the policeman. If the guy did have two hands on a handgun and was in that position there was little time to react.

Minor traffic accident? Guy was reported driving erratically and then hit another vehicle. The driver then gets out of the vehicle and does what is described above.

Sorry, but the fault here does not lie with the officer.

It's really good though that a video captured this so the officer was exonerated.

And I'm not saying that there are not occasions where officers are clearly in the wrong or unjustly heavy handed. I do indeed thing there is a huge problem in our country with this issue. This incident is not one of them though.
 Quoting: G. House


You're out of your mind. I'm not going to address it. You shouldn't get shot at minor traffic accidents. He left the car expecting to exchange paperwork, not to be engaged by a trigger-happy cop.

Are police above the law? Would you be able to justify similar actions if involved in a similar situation but without a badge?
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Sorry but YOU are out of your mind if you can't see what the officer saw.

Doesn't matter what the INTENTIONS of the driver were. He brought his hands together holding a dark object, in the dark, at night, pointed at the officer.

Minor traffic stop? If the guy was driving erratically enough to have people call in to 911 or whatever and then the guy hit a vehicle (did you notice the other vehicles stopped?) it wasn't really a "minor" traffic stop. Then the guy get's out of the car and does what I've described above.

Put yourself in the officers position and remember this took place in 3 seconds. If the guy DID HAVE A GUN was the officer supposed to wait until he fired?
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Are you prior military? I have noticed a trend with my fellow veterans who take their warrior mindset into the streets as a police officer. Just curious.
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If that was my dad, there would be a pig & his family being buried soon
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That's what the commies don't get. If we cannot have justice they shall not have life.
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Exactly
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Are you prior military? I have noticed a trend with my fellow veterans who take their warrior mindset into the streets as a police officer. Just curious.
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Yep, noticed it too. They want to play soldier on their own countrymen...its why I smile when some black gangbanger blows their brains out.
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Right at 26/27. Watch it a couple times.

Officer showed great restraint in not hitting him a few more times after that as the guy brought his hands together at 30.
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I'd have to go with the officer on this one.

Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid.
 Quoting: G. House


Oh fuck you. Another morbidly obese redneck asshole that is scared of his own shadow. Go to any grappling tournament, you know how to find the cops? They are the assholes walking around trying to look hard while cramming their Pilsbury dougboy ass into a compression shirt three sizes too small and whining about a technicality when they get their ass kicked.
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What gets me is there is no attempt to put pressure on the wound or to render any basic aid.
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I'd have to go with the officer on this one.

Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid.
 Quoting: G. House


The guy was exiting his car at an angle. The police officer was responding to a minor traffic accident. Do we want to hire individuals who actively seek out confrontation and violence at minor traffic stops?
 Quoting: ScoutsOUT


Excuse me?

He was holding his wallet with two hands in such a way it looked like he was lining up and pointing a handgun.

People should use a little common sense and not act erratically in a threatening manner in situations like that.

And have a little empathy for the policeman. If the guy did have two hands on a handgun and was in that position there was little time to react.

Minor traffic accident? Guy was reported driving erratically and then hit another vehicle. The driver then gets out of the vehicle and does what is described above.

Sorry, but the fault here does not lie with the officer.

It's really good though that a video captured this so the officer was exonerated.

And I'm not saying that there are not occasions where officers are clearly in the wrong or unjustly heavy handed. I do indeed thing there is a huge problem in our country with this issue. This incident is not one of them though.
 Quoting: G. House


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COps muder citizens with impunity on a regular basis.

The only hope is for citizens to MANDATE that local city and county elected officials slash the budgets of LE depts and agencies that refuse to implement significant change in
their justified use of force policy along with also reform
in the legal justice system that strips immunity from cops
who murder citizens while on duty and under questionable circumstances.

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Are you prior military? I have noticed a trend with my fellow veterans who take their warrior mindset into the streets as a police officer. Just curious.
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Me?

Gun maven. Military history buff.

If I had been the officer I really think I would have hit him again at 30. Hard to say as you're watching a video and maybe the officer had identified the object by then.

Personally I would not want to be a police officer where you had to make split second decisions like this in the first place.

And like I said before, luckily the guy didn't die for acting like a moron.
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I take solace in knowing you have the minority opinion here
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I take solace in knowing you have the minority opinion here
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And truth be known I am one of the most anti-cop, anarchist people here at GLP.

This is not a good example of the agenda you are pushing.

26/27 watch it a couple of times.

You and the others against me in the thread are extremely biased and have thrown objectivity out the window.
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No agenda here. We've interacted in the past and are aligned in many ways--just not on this particular topic.
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