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ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 70544232 United States 03/11/2017 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd have to go with the officer on this one. Quoting: G. House Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid. The guy was exiting his car at an angle. The police officer was responding to a minor traffic accident. Do we want to hire individuals who actively seek out confrontation and violence at minor traffic stops? "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 70544232 United States 03/11/2017 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then the cop lets the guy writhe on the ground without rendering aid for over 5 minutes. Last Edited by ScoutsOUT on 03/11/2017 09:21 AM "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
MarPep User ID: 74272441 United States 03/11/2017 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | _______________ They let me off with a warning and a couple of bullet holes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 67268914 United States 03/11/2017 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd have to go with the officer on this one. Quoting: G. House Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid. Bullshit. He struggled to get out of the car in a way that wasn't threatening. The cop just wanted to murder someone that night, pure and simple. Veterans won't forget what this cop did to one of our own. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 45289272 United States 03/11/2017 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd have to go with the officer on this one. Quoting: G. House Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid. Bullshit. He struggled to get out of the car in a way that wasn't threatening. The cop just wanted to murder someone that night, pure and simple. Veterans won't forget what this cop did to one of our own. LOL, you won't do shit ... |
G. House User ID: 30359559 Netherlands 03/11/2017 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd have to go with the officer on this one. Quoting: G. House Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid. The guy was exiting his car at an angle. The police officer was responding to a minor traffic accident. Do we want to hire individuals who actively seek out confrontation and violence at minor traffic stops? Excuse me? He was holding his wallet with two hands in such a way it looked like he was lining up and pointing a handgun. People should use a little common sense and not act erratically in a threatening manner in situations like that. And have a little empathy for the policeman. If the guy did have two hands on a handgun and was in that position there was little time to react. Minor traffic accident? Guy was reported driving erratically and then hit another vehicle. The driver then gets out of the vehicle and does what is described above. Sorry, but the fault here does not lie with the officer. It's really good though that a video captured this so the officer was exonerated. And I'm not saying that there are not occasions where officers are clearly in the wrong or unjustly heavy handed. I do indeed thing there is a huge problem in our country with this issue. This incident is not one of them though. "Everybody lies." |
ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 70544232 United States 03/11/2017 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That fat slob ruined that young man's life, without having any clear danger to himself. You can see that the exit wound was through his sacro-iliac area. That will cause trouble forever. Damned justice system is screwed up, too. Quoting: MarPep As a child I had this image of the local police officers as being these valiant defenders of peace and willing to "take a bullet" for me. This mindset was not isolated. Our perceptions of police have changed over the years. The police's perception of how to perform their job has also changed over the years. No longer are police willing to "put their life on the line." It has become "my life is more important than everyone around." I don't want police to get shot and injured. Even less do I want police shooting unarmed and innocent citizens. If given a choice between an unarmed and innocent citizen being shot, or a police officer, it really should be the police officer. THEY signed up for the job. THEY know the risk. THEY are the ones supposedly sworn to "protect and defend." The officer should have waited another moment. He shouldn't have arrived at the scene with offensive posturing. It was a freaking accident scene. How many accidents do these officers investigate on a daily basis? Is firearm violence against police officers at routine traffic stops statistically a problem? Highly doubt it. Last Edited by ScoutsOUT on 03/11/2017 01:02 PM "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
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ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 70544232 United States 03/11/2017 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd have to go with the officer on this one. Quoting: G. House Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid. The guy was exiting his car at an angle. The police officer was responding to a minor traffic accident. Do we want to hire individuals who actively seek out confrontation and violence at minor traffic stops? Excuse me? He was holding his wallet with two hands in such a way it looked like he was lining up and pointing a handgun. People should use a little common sense and not act erratically in a threatening manner in situations like that. And have a little empathy for the policeman. If the guy did have two hands on a handgun and was in that position there was little time to react. Minor traffic accident? Guy was reported driving erratically and then hit another vehicle. The driver then gets out of the vehicle and does what is described above. Sorry, but the fault here does not lie with the officer. It's really good though that a video captured this so the officer was exonerated. And I'm not saying that there are not occasions where officers are clearly in the wrong or unjustly heavy handed. I do indeed thing there is a huge problem in our country with this issue. This incident is not one of them though. You're out of your mind. I'm not going to address it. You shouldn't get shot at minor traffic accidents. He left the car expecting to exchange paperwork, not to be engaged by a trigger-happy cop. Are police above the law? Would you be able to justify similar actions if involved in a similar situation but without a badge? "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
G. House User ID: 30359559 Netherlands 03/11/2017 09:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd have to go with the officer on this one. Quoting: G. House Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid. Bullshit. He struggled to get out of the car in a way that wasn't threatening. The cop just wanted to murder someone that night, pure and simple. Veterans won't forget what this cop did to one of our own. Wow! You are one stupid son of a bitch! You don't hold your hands together like that with something in your hands, in the dark, at night, when an officer is giving you instructions to show your hands. "Everybody lies." |
ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 70544232 United States 03/11/2017 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd have to go with the officer on this one. Quoting: G. House Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid. Bullshit. He struggled to get out of the car in a way that wasn't threatening. The cop just wanted to murder someone that night, pure and simple. Veterans won't forget what this cop did to one of our own. Wow! You are one stupid son of a bitch! You don't hold your hands together like that with something in your hands, in the dark, at night, when an officer is giving you instructions to show your hands. Are you prior military? "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
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G. House User ID: 30359559 Netherlands 03/11/2017 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd have to go with the officer on this one. Quoting: G. House Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid. The guy was exiting his car at an angle. The police officer was responding to a minor traffic accident. Do we want to hire individuals who actively seek out confrontation and violence at minor traffic stops? Excuse me? He was holding his wallet with two hands in such a way it looked like he was lining up and pointing a handgun. People should use a little common sense and not act erratically in a threatening manner in situations like that. And have a little empathy for the policeman. If the guy did have two hands on a handgun and was in that position there was little time to react. Minor traffic accident? Guy was reported driving erratically and then hit another vehicle. The driver then gets out of the vehicle and does what is described above. Sorry, but the fault here does not lie with the officer. It's really good though that a video captured this so the officer was exonerated. And I'm not saying that there are not occasions where officers are clearly in the wrong or unjustly heavy handed. I do indeed thing there is a huge problem in our country with this issue. This incident is not one of them though. You're out of your mind. I'm not going to address it. You shouldn't get shot at minor traffic accidents. He left the car expecting to exchange paperwork, not to be engaged by a trigger-happy cop. Are police above the law? Would you be able to justify similar actions if involved in a similar situation but without a badge? Sorry but YOU are out of your mind if you can't see what the officer saw. Doesn't matter what the INTENTIONS of the driver were. He brought his hands together holding a dark object, in the dark, at night, pointed at the officer. Minor traffic stop? If the guy was driving erratically enough to have people call in to 911 or whatever and then the guy hit a vehicle (did you notice the other vehicles stopped?) it wasn't really a "minor" traffic stop. Then the guy get's out of the car and does what I've described above. Put yourself in the officers position and remember this took place in 3 seconds. If the guy DID HAVE A GUN was the officer supposed to wait until he fired? "Everybody lies." |
ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 70544232 United States 03/11/2017 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you prior military? I have noticed a trend with my fellow veterans who take their warrior mindset into the streets as a police officer. Just curious. "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64985415 United States 03/11/2017 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you prior military? I have noticed a trend with my fellow veterans who take their warrior mindset into the streets as a police officer. Just curious. Quoting: ScoutsOUT Yep, noticed it too. They want to play soldier on their own countrymen...its why I smile when some black gangbanger blows their brains out. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73520631 United States 03/11/2017 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd have to go with the officer on this one. Quoting: G. House Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid. Oh fuck you. Another morbidly obese redneck asshole that is scared of his own shadow. Go to any grappling tournament, you know how to find the cops? They are the assholes walking around trying to look hard while cramming their Pilsbury dougboy ass into a compression shirt three sizes too small and whining about a technicality when they get their ass kicked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71035451 United States 03/11/2017 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd have to go with the officer on this one. Quoting: G. House Luckily the guy didn't die. But bringing his hands together holding a dark object like that was just plain stupid. The guy was exiting his car at an angle. The police officer was responding to a minor traffic accident. Do we want to hire individuals who actively seek out confrontation and violence at minor traffic stops? Excuse me? He was holding his wallet with two hands in such a way it looked like he was lining up and pointing a handgun. People should use a little common sense and not act erratically in a threatening manner in situations like that. And have a little empathy for the policeman. If the guy did have two hands on a handgun and was in that position there was little time to react. Minor traffic accident? Guy was reported driving erratically and then hit another vehicle. The driver then gets out of the vehicle and does what is described above. Sorry, but the fault here does not lie with the officer. It's really good though that a video captured this so the officer was exonerated. And I'm not saying that there are not occasions where officers are clearly in the wrong or unjustly heavy handed. I do indeed thing there is a huge problem in our country with this issue. This incident is not one of them though. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 69493004 United States 03/11/2017 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | COps muder citizens with impunity on a regular basis. The only hope is for citizens to MANDATE that local city and county elected officials slash the budgets of LE depts and agencies that refuse to implement significant change in their justified use of force policy along with also reform in the legal justice system that strips immunity from cops who murder citizens while on duty and under questionable circumstances. |
G. House User ID: 30359559 Netherlands 03/11/2017 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are you prior military? I have noticed a trend with my fellow veterans who take their warrior mindset into the streets as a police officer. Just curious. Quoting: ScoutsOUT Me? Gun maven. Military history buff. If I had been the officer I really think I would have hit him again at 30. Hard to say as you're watching a video and maybe the officer had identified the object by then. Personally I would not want to be a police officer where you had to make split second decisions like this in the first place. And like I said before, luckily the guy didn't die for acting like a moron. "Everybody lies." |
ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 70544232 United States 03/11/2017 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I take solace in knowing you have the minority opinion here "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |
G. House User ID: 30359559 Netherlands 03/11/2017 10:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And truth be known I am one of the most anti-cop, anarchist people here at GLP. This is not a good example of the agenda you are pushing. 26/27 watch it a couple of times. You and the others against me in the thread are extremely biased and have thrown objectivity out the window. "Everybody lies." |
ScoutsOUT (OP) User ID: 70544232 United States 03/11/2017 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No agenda here. We've interacted in the past and are aligned in many ways--just not on this particular topic. "Be polite, be professional, be prepared to kill everyone you meet." What keeps you awake at night? "Nothing, I keep other people awake at night." Secretary of Defense, James Mattis |