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The Government does not meddle with the Private Sector, Private Sector Meddles with the Government

 
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I don't understand how people saying the government meddles with the private sector.

It is the private sector that went to the government looking to rig the markets to their benefit.

The reason costs go up is because that is exactly what the private sector interests wanted. They do want costs to go up and they want everyone else to pay for it.


The Food Stamp Industry lobbyed to be able to use food stamps.

That was not the government going to the fast food Industry, but the Fast Food Industry going to government

Obamacare was written by and for the Insurance and Pharma Industry, they are also the top donors to politicians.

Obamacare is not a Democrat or Republican creation but a creation by the private sector.

See how it is not being repealed now that republicans are in power?


Because it was already paid for by lobbyists so, the same politicians on the dole are "replacing it"

We are still getting a pig in a poke while the Insurance Industry gets the honey
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Costs Go up when the private sector business gets involved with the government
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Majority of the Government is also not career politicians but consists more of Revolving Door Corporate and Banking Insiders working for their respective company

When they leave DC, they have a nice cushy job to return to while everyone else pays for it.
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That is why I will never understand why people say Big Government is the problem.

Corporate and Banking Lobbyists want a Big Government because it takes a Big Government to cater to them.

Why are people not attacking the Big Corporations and Banks then?

Who puts these people in power? Big Corporations and Banks do
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How come Obamacare was not repealed with no replacement?

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Top Lobbying Industries

Pharmaceuticals/Health Products $3,146,090,212
Insurance $2,190,651,832

Because politician donors on the take on both sides plus insider trading rats have a $$stake$$ in propping it up
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Yum! Brands, the parent company of several national fast food chains, including KFC, Pizza Hut and Taco Bell, is lobbying to allow the use of food stamps in its restaurants.
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Tea Party News

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Evangelical pastors, corporate leaders, elected Republican officials and small-government activists arrive in Washington next week to lobby lawmakers to revamp U.S. immigration policies before year’s end.
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The Defense Industry gets all their money from the tax payers.

They then take tax payer money and lobby politicians with billions of our dollars to keep the circus going.

Should corporations on the take be allowed to lobby politicians?
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WRONG! The government is always asking the private sector to wipe it's ass! The government workers think they are the smartest ppl on earth (cause they work for the government) and yet it's always been the private sector where the best people are. Please come code for us cause we spent billions on a website that doesn't work!
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WRONG! The government is always asking the private sector to wipe it's ass! The government workers think they are the smartest ppl on earth (cause they work for the government) and yet it's always been the private sector where the best people are. Please come code for us cause we spent billions on a website that doesn't work!
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your both right, gov wants t otake more power like any private sector company and the private sector pays the gov to be leanient and biased on interests for that company etc etc
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WRONG! The government is always asking the private sector to wipe it's ass! The government workers think they are the smartest ppl on earth (cause they work for the government) and yet it's always been the private sector where the best people are. Please come code for us cause we spent billions on a website that doesn't work!
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Nope

The private sector donates to political puppets to put them in office. That is your government.

The private sector did this

[link to www.opensecrets.org (secure)]

Top Lobbying Industries

Pharmaceuticals/Health Products $3,146,090,212
Insurance $2,190,651,832
Electric Utilities $2,013,127,133
Electronics Mfg & Equip $1,823,347,451
Business Associations $1,811,811,643
Oil & Gas $1,715,405,541
Misc Manufacturing & Distributing $1,416,425,661
Education $1,399,862,870
Hospitals/Nursing Homes $1,310,021,801
Telecom Services $1,271,840,866
Securities & Investment $1,264,774,284
Civil Servants/Public Officials $1,216,181,432
Real Estate $1,215,135,758
Health Professionals $1,189,983,794
Air Transport $1,125,384,003
Misc Issues $929,225,311
Automotive $891,793,138
Defense Aerospace $887,354,553
Health Services/HMOs $863,410,051
TV/Movies/Music $851,379,595
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ever heard of regulatory burdens?

you're a real moran pls do not post anymore
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WRONG! The government is always asking the private sector to wipe it's ass! The government workers think they are the smartest ppl on earth (cause they work for the government) and yet it's always been the private sector where the best people are. Please come code for us cause we spent billions on a website that doesn't work!
 Quoting: CountryWise


Nope

The private sector donates to political puppets to put them in office. That is your government.

The private sector did this

[link to www.opensecrets.org (secure)]

Top Lobbying Industries

Pharmaceuticals/Health Products $3,146,090,212
Insurance $2,190,651,832
Electric Utilities $2,013,127,133
Electronics Mfg & Equip $1,823,347,451
Business Associations $1,811,811,643
Oil & Gas $1,715,405,541
Misc Manufacturing & Distributing $1,416,425,661
Education $1,399,862,870
Hospitals/Nursing Homes $1,310,021,801
Telecom Services $1,271,840,866
Securities & Investment $1,264,774,284
Civil Servants/Public Officials $1,216,181,432
Real Estate $1,215,135,758
Health Professionals $1,189,983,794
Air Transport $1,125,384,003
Misc Issues $929,225,311
Automotive $891,793,138
Defense Aerospace $887,354,553
Health Services/HMOs $863,410,051
TV/Movies/Music $851,379,595
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as i said in my post, companies give money for favors and the gov is wanting more power via law, taxes and things like this but those are all unconstitutional anyways so, again your both right
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WRONG! The government is always asking the private sector to wipe it's ass! The government workers think they are the smartest ppl on earth (cause they work for the government) and yet it's always been the private sector where the best people are. Please come code for us cause we spent billions on a website that doesn't work!
 Quoting: CountryWise


your both right, gov wants t otake more power like any private sector company and the private sector pays the gov to be leanient and biased on interests for that company etc etc
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But the problem is, the Power Hungry People are not from the average American Population.

The Power Hungry rise to the top because they are Psychopaths, raping and pillaging their way to the top no matter who they harm.

Corporate and Banking Heads want more power, so it is not a shocker that they will also be power hungry when they get in a government position.

The Government is Power Hungry because it draws from Power Hungry Sources to fill their cabinets.
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ever heard of regulatory burdens?

you're a real moran pls do not post anymore
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Regulatory Burdens are a small cost to pay for a Big Corporation and a Burden for a small company

I am all for reducing Regulations on Business and Regulations on Citizens.

They are all laws to regulate behavior.

We need more freedom for all, not just Big Business
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WRONG! The government is always asking the private sector to wipe it's ass! The government workers think they are the smartest ppl on earth (cause they work for the government) and yet it's always been the private sector where the best people are. Please come code for us cause we spent billions on a website that doesn't work!
 Quoting: CountryWise


your both right, gov wants t otake more power like any private sector company and the private sector pays the gov to be leanient and biased on interests for that company etc etc
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But the problem is, the Power Hungry People are not from the average American Population.

The Power Hungry rise to the top because they are Psychopaths, raping and pillaging their way to the top no matter who they harm.

Corporate and Banking Heads want more power, so it is not a shocker that they will also be power hungry when they get in a government position.

The Government is Power Hungry because it draws from Power Hungry Sources to fill their cabinets.
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well, again, power doesnt corrupt, the corrupt seek power, it will alwasy be like this, if your not vigilant as a society, then socialist laws and taxes are implemented, communism soon takes over where the gov and business intermingle so the too big too fail business last forever, this is gov picking and choosing winners
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Bullshit princess!
Glp is /was eglin airforce base and was hacking us and manipulating us via psops and other tech!
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WRONG! The government is always asking the private sector to wipe it's ass! The government workers think they are the smartest ppl on earth (cause they work for the government) and yet it's always been the private sector where the best people are. Please come code for us cause we spent billions on a website that doesn't work!
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your both right, gov wants t otake more power like any private sector company and the private sector pays the gov to be leanient and biased on interests for that company etc etc
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But the problem is, the Power Hungry People are not from the average American Population.

The Power Hungry rise to the top because they are Psychopaths, raping and pillaging their way to the top no matter who they harm.

Corporate and Banking Heads want more power, so it is not a shocker that they will also be power hungry when they get in a government position.

The Government is Power Hungry because it draws from Power Hungry Sources to fill their cabinets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54172988


Some of the best & largest companies I know, are mom & pop one stop shops! Their profits send their son to school to further their business with a new generation. Their profits send their daughter to volleyball camp. Thats the private sector, I speak of. The pr9vate sector you speak of, is corporate sector. Two totally different things.
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All laws are regulations on Human Behavior from Business to Citizens.

The moneyed class want more freedoms and less regulations on their money making ventures, while wanting less freedoms and more regulations on citizen behavior

If a company pollutes my drinking water, they get away with it, If I dump a pollutant as a citizen I get jail time.

If I take matters into my own hands, Big Business yells for Big Government to protect them
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Some of the best & largest companies I know, are mom & pop one stop shops! Their profits send their son to school to further their business with a new generation. Their profits send their daughter to volleyball camp. Thats the private sector, I speak of. The pr9vate sector you speak of, is corporate sector. Two totally different things.
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Good Post
I agree, I am pro small business
30 years ago when America was in its heyday, most business running this country were small mom and pops that did not have stocks on wall street, family farmers instead of corporate farms that have stocks on wall street, Many American's had pensions instead of 401Ks

The Big Corporations and Banks on the other hand have all their worth in the financial sector and are also largely to blame for the last 30 years where we have gone downhill.


Useless wars, Bailouts, Purchasing Politicians, Trade with Communist Countries, all this was pushed by Big Corporations and Banks, not small business
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WRONG! The government is always asking the private sector to wipe it's ass! The government workers think they are the smartest ppl on earth (cause they work for the government) and yet it's always been the private sector where the best people are. Please come code for us cause we spent billions on a website that doesn't work!
 Quoting: CountryWise


your both right, gov wants t otake more power like any private sector company and the private sector pays the gov to be leanient and biased on interests for that company etc etc
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73641708


But the problem is, the Power Hungry People are not from the average American Population.

The Power Hungry rise to the top because they are Psychopaths, raping and pillaging their way to the top no matter who they harm.

Corporate and Banking Heads want more power, so it is not a shocker that they will also be power hungry when they get in a government position.

The Government is Power Hungry because it draws from Power Hungry Sources to fill their cabinets.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54172988


Some of the best & largest companies I know, are mom & pop one stop shops! Their profits send their son to school to further their business with a new generation. Their profits send their daughter to volleyball camp. Thats the private sector, I speak of. The pr9vate sector you speak of, is corporate sector. Two totally different things.
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i only count the people in with the big leagues as private, everyone else is a competitor that they want to eat up one day, they do make up the bulk of the economy for now, cant wait til everyone is working at brawndo and costco, that will be the future, especially since we still have an out of control fed running the show for the past 202 years
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I'm with OP



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Some of the best & largest companies I know, are mom & pop one stop shops! Their profits send their son to school to further their business with a new generation. Their profits send their daughter to volleyball camp. Thats the private sector, I speak of. The pr9vate sector you speak of, is corporate sector. Two totally different things.
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Good Post
I agree, I am pro small business
30 years ago when America was in its heyday, most business running this country were small mom and pops that did not have stocks on wall street, family farmers instead of corporate farms that have stocks on wall street, Many American's had pensions instead of 401Ks

The Big Corporations and Banks on the other hand have all their worth in the financial sector and are also largely to blame for the last 30 years where we have gone downhill.


Useless wars, Bailouts, Purchasing Politicians, Trade with Communist Countries, all this was pushed by Big Corporations and Banks, not small business
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its jsut banks that make everyone do everything, business can get out of control and too large and governemnts should try to get rid of monopolies because cometition is necessary, thats the real issue, banks have control via 20 trillion fiat over the gov and the big business invest in the banks and the gov, its a big circle were the gov enacts unconstitutional things, if you wana blame anyone its people, we dont march on the fed and do anything, these people should have been publicly executed along time ago, as long as they live this will continue and i dont expect anything to end soon, evil is allowed to continue as long as good people do nothing, i know you wana blame someone but it starts with us, learn from history
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I'm with OP



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because you dont understand how the world works
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youre slightly off target. yes, companies could benefit from higher cost but theres a little thing called competition. why doesnt coke raise their prices to unreasonable levels? because pepsi would take all their business. coke has to stay competitive. thats part of the foundation of a free market, take competition away and you can set your price at whatever you want, especially when it comes to healthcare.

lets say the government comes in and places higher taxes on the ingredients of coke and pepsi products...costs go up for you and me. now say the government requires every single bottle of coke and pepsi to be lab tested to meet a government level of accepted taste...cost goes up. now the government steps in again and says every bottle of coke and pepsi products must be in a different, more expensive container...cost goes up. the government can continue to do this for as long as they can think up new restrictions.

this is just one hypothetical example, think about all the different industries the government get involved in by placing unnecessary guidelines.
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if you wana blame anyone its people, we dont march on the fed and do anything, these people should have been publicly executed along time ago,
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They already have that covered with even people on this forum supporting less freedoms and a bigger police state here in America.

The Patriot Act, DHS and so on should all be disbanded.
They are programs to attack freedom loving Americans

Less than 1% of the population call the shots in Government
The people are not allowed to be responsible for their government because big money owns it.

Saying we can go the violent route would be a big fail and you know it. They would crush everyone

The Government can be blamed on the top 1%
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I'm with OP



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because you dont understand how the world works
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I do too
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youre slightly off target. yes, companies could benefit from higher cost but theres a little thing called competition. why doesnt coke raise their prices to unreasonable levels? because pepsi would take all their business.
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That is not a good comparison
Coke and Pepsi are similar enough yes, where the consumer wins in that case

But for Pharma, they charge whatever the market can handle and then back down a little if there is resistance

Look at the prices of some drugs raised from 2 dollars a pill to 750 dollars a pill by that jerk after he bought it.

He did it because he can and his response was insurance will pay for it anyway, well duh, who pays insurance premiums?

How about an Iphone, it costs 200 dollars to make including labor and they sell it to Americans for 650 dollars

Business Prices their products with what they can get away with.

This is why I think it is nonsense when people say consumers pay tax, not business.

If we raise taxes, they will raise their prices.
Well, if the market can handle it, then why don't they raise it now so they can give more profits to the financial sector?

If a business has to make a cut, they can reduce worker wages, increase prices to consumers and shareholders and execs can take a cut

They are not in the business of charity and employ and pay workers what they can get away with, they also already have prices that they can get away with in the market.

That means they have to cut exec and shareholder pay.
Cry me a river on that
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I don't understand how people saying the government meddles with the private sector.

It is the private sector that went to the government looking to rig the markets to their benefit.

The reason costs go up is because that is exactly what the private sector interests wanted. They do want costs to go up and they want everyone else to pay for it.


The Food Stamp Industry lobbyed to be able to use food stamps.

That was not the government going to the fast food Industry, but the Fast Food Industry going to government

Obamacare was written by and for the Insurance and Pharma Industry, they are also the top donors to politicians.

Obamacare is not a Democrat or Republican creation but a creation by the private sector.

See how it is not being repealed now that republicans are in power?


Because it was already paid for by lobbyists so, the same politicians on the dole are "replacing it"

We are still getting a pig in a poke while the Insurance Industry gets the honey
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specialstupid rere23
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The bureaucracy of big government will destroy the fucking world!
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I don't understand how people saying the government meddles with the private sector.

It is the private sector that went to the government looking to rig the markets to their benefit.

The reason costs go up is because that is exactly what the private sector interests wanted. They do want costs to go up and they want everyone else to pay for it.


The Food Stamp Industry lobbyed to be able to use food stamps.

That was not the government going to the fast food Industry, but the Fast Food Industry going to government

Obamacare was written by and for the Insurance and Pharma Industry, they are also the top donors to politicians.

Obamacare is not a Democrat or Republican creation but a creation by the private sector.

See how it is not being repealed now that republicans are in power?


Because it was already paid for by lobbyists so, the same politicians on the dole are "replacing it"

We are still getting a pig in a poke while the Insurance Industry gets the honey
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specialstupid rere23
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Says the person that resorts to ad hom attacks with no rebuttal

Yea, your a real Einstein there!
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