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Hypertension (High Blood Pressure) question.

 
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Hypertension (High Blood Pressure) question.
If High Blood Pressure is due to stress, what NATURAL remedies are effective? Any info is greatly appreciated!
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if you eat correctly "stress" cant give you high blood pressure. so eat better

fruits and veggies

switch to kosher salt(it tastes much better too)
use way less processed food, foods in boxes and cans.
no sugar drinks ect.

fresh food only, lots of water

if you truly need relaxtion, try yoga or something
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The commercial on TV says, "You need Relacor!"
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02/20/2007 10:39 AM
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Hypertension can be caused by so many things other than stress such as weight gain, caffeine, etc. The key thing is do what you can to eliminate your hypertension as best as possible. Exercise, reduce caffeine intake, lose weight and yes reduce stress if you can, BUT please be sure to see a doctor and get on an effective medicine to control your hypertension in the meantime. While you may be able to get your hypertension back under control through personal changes this can take a long time and you don't want hypertension to ravage your internal organs while you try to get your habits under control.

Personally I have moderate hypertension and have been on medication for a little over 1 year. Over this time I have been exercising more, losing weight and trying not to drink as much coffee to watch the caffeine. On the same medication level, my BP has been falling more and more over the course of the year. I am planning on coming off the meds sometime in 2007. Of course I will always monitor my BP at least 3 to 5 times a week since I know I am prone to hypertension.

To sum it all up... hypertension meds get your hypertension under control to allow you the time required to get your personal habits in control.
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Hypertension meds have nasty side effects that can kill without warning...these medications are more riksy than having the disease itself, if you doubt me look up the side effects on the web...

on the other hand there are natural remedys that can bring your blood pressure down without risk..

Onions are legendary in their effect on blood pressure, another good one is pomegranite juice...
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onion? would that mean garlic would have a big impact as well?
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I noticed my blood pressure go up when i

1.) did not get enough sleep

2.) did not exorcise as much

those i feel are the major players
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Things you can take for High Blood Pressure:

1) Potassium Chloride ( no-salt) make sure it has no sodium
Take as much as 2000 mg/day but divide the doses and put it in water or juice (very diluted)...your body will let you know by your thirst/taste mechanism when to stop

2) Garlic.... cut 1-3 cloves of garlic up and swallow the peices......(you won't be the life of the party but your blood pressure will drop)

3) Flax meal or flax seed oil (either use fresh ground flax meal or cold pressed flax seed oil. 2 tablespoons a day

4) Cod liver oil-1tspoon a day

5) Coral calcium 3-5 tabs a day taken with 3-5 tabs of vitamin C ( either 500 mg-1000 mg vitamin C) make sure you take them together

6) Drink lots of distilled water.....eliminate sodas and paturized juices
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make sure that you have it!

I was recently under the impression i had hypertension due to the fact that every medical machine which calculates this value has told me so. Even at the hospitals. Then I had my physician examine me for my physical, and he found my pressure abnormally high which he thought strange at my age (26) so he did a manual test and it was well in the healthy range. Just a tip!
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Google Garlic + blood pressure
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not to mention, when you test6 is also important.

like if you have a meal loaded with salts or preservatives your blood pressure will go up while dealing with these substances so wait a few hours after eating or even better do it before you eat for the day,

then do it after and see the change, you will notice el natural foods wont affect your blood pressure but the standard american diet will elevate it.

im not even gonna talk about microwaved food.....
freaking poison, even water is poison after being heated in the microwave
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Things you can take for High Blood Pressure:

1) Potassium Chloride ( no-salt) make sure it has no sodium
Take as much as 2000 mg/day but divide the doses and put it in water or juice (very diluted)...your body will let you know by your thirst/taste mechanism when to stop

2) Garlic.... cut 1-3 cloves of garlic up and swallow the peices......(you won't be the life of the party but your blood pressure will drop)

3) Flax meal or flax seed oil (either use fresh ground flax meal or cold pressed flax seed oil. 2 tablespoons a day

4) Cod liver oil-1tspoon a day

5) Coral calcium 3-5 tabs a day taken with 3-5 tabs of vitamin C ( either 500 mg-1000 mg vitamin C) make sure you take them together

6) Drink lots of distilled water.....eliminate sodas and paturized juices
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Thanks, what seems to be missing in my protocol is the coral calcium and the potassium chloride. I'll give that a try.
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Actually, the idea that everyone can control high blood pressure merely by changing their diet, exercise routines, weight, bad habits etc. is a total myth. This is what most people have been led to believe. I know. I have talked to many people about it and this is what 99% of them believe. I used to believe it too. This is not out of the box thinking, it is a mainstream belief system.

Unfortunately this kind of advice could get someone killed. You don’t know the truth until it happens to you. All the lifestyle changes are helpful and necessary, but for certain people they aren’t the cause of the high BP. The cause is unknown – did you know that? Blood pressure is a very complex process involving different systems of the body. It is not well understood.

If you check with any responsible natural healer you will find that even they recommend that people who can’t get their BP down with lifestyle changes must take the medications. For life.

My whole family on my mother’s side had high blood pressure. My grandmother died from a stroke at 52. My uncle died in his 60s from a stroke. But my mother had a rigid, Spartan diet; she was fit and trim and exercised daily. She went on BP medication and lived to be 80 before she had a stroke.

I ignored the family history. I didn’t think it pertained to me. I am very young for my age, slender, meditative, get a lot of exercise every day, and on and on. I didn’t think much about it because I am almost never sick and have the energy and vitality of a 20 year old. My pulse rate is around 50-52. I am a vegetarian and eat the right stuff. One day it struck me that everyone on the maternal side had high blood pressure. As kind of a lark I had my BP taken. It was high. I was totally surprised. For weeks I researched BP and kept trying everything I could think of to get it down. Meanwhile it was in the 160s, 170s and 180s. Nothing I did, on top of what I was already doing, had any effect on it. Even sleeping did not lower it.

Finally I broke down and went to the doctor and he was like “you can’t go on this way!” He said I had none of the risk factors, that I was already doing everything possible to lower it. He wrote out a prescription. I balked. I didn’t fill it for awhile, as I tried even more natural methods to lower it. Meanwhile all my friends, who had been taught by our culture that all you have to do is this and that were giving me the ABCs of BP that I already knew from all my research. They just couldn’t understand that this is a condition I inherited. They had never been taught that by the books and media stuff they had read. It is a condition. I did not have it until I got older. My habits were a lot better when I was older than when I was younger. But I didn’t have high blood pressure then.

I only have one friend, older than I am, who understood that. The reason she understands is because she has blood pressure in the lower range and she smokes, doesn’t eat the right foods for low pressure and has other risk factors. But her BP is like 115/68 or something like that. Really low.

The meds have lowered my BP. The first ones only worked for about a month; then I had to go on another type. I tried my best to escape it. But I made the choice that it was better to take the meds than risk a stroke. After seeing it in the 160s 170s and 180s now down to 120/80 average, it is a blessing and I am grateful, and I am one who shunned doctors. But there are certain things they can help you with if you are smart about it. Sometimes that is the best choice. Usually not, but sometimes.
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people know you have to eat better..

most dont or wont.

some cant figure out how to eat correctly

sammiches all day is not healthy, i dont care if there is a slice of tomato and a lettucee leaf on it, its not healthy
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02/20/2007 11:50 AM
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cayenne pepper can be very beneficial in lowering BP.
Read about the wonderful Dr. Christopher and his geat
healing success with herbs.

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02/20/2007 12:03 PM
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Some time ago I posted regarding HBP and I wrote,that Some readings indicated 130/200,so I'm lucky I didn't turn into a red blob on the wallpaper,haha.These meters,I don't know,the meter often has to pump pressure 3 or 4 times,in order to get a proper read-out,almost squeezing my arm of.
I noticed my veins on the hand at stomach height and when I raise my arm to my head,the veins disappear.Woudn't that entail a very weak pressure,instead of a high one?At present roundabout 110/120.
Anyway,trying to keep alive with cayenne,garlic,vit.E etc.
If I die,I can't read GLP anymore,that won't do,will it?
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02/20/2007 12:11 PM
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Let go of your fear.
Think of what is working well for you.
Think of the things that are feeling good.
Meditate in peaceful surroundings with no man-made noise and make it your intention to free yourself of stress and therefore lower your BP.

hf
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02/20/2007 12:34 PM
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The major problem with using foods to lower blood pressure is that the effect is somewhat temporary and not over a 24 hour period. I agree that eating garlic and other items may for a 1 or 2 hour period lower your blood pressure slightly, it is not these momentary lowerings that matter, but the longer term ones.

My medication controls my blood pressure over a 24 hour period and I take one pill per day. No matter when or how I measure my BP while I am on medication (morning, night, before taking the medicine, etc), my BP ranges from 120's - low 130's to 80's to low 90's. The 90 is still slightly high.

As I lost weight, exercised, etc my BP dropped more but I stayed on the medication and will continue to stay on it until I and a doctor agree I can try to come off it.

Bottom line - Controlling your BP for only certain periods of time over the course of the day to do BP lowering foods will not prevent the long term consequences of high BP, unless of course you want to swallow a glove of garlic every two hours, every day for the rest of your life.
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I'm on a medication called Benicar. Helped me a lot. No side effects (for me at least). I also walk a lot. Blood pressure went from 180/140 to 116/70. I feel great almost all of the time.
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Re: Hypertension (High Blood Pressure) question.
The major problem with using foods to lower blood pressure is that the effect is somewhat temporary and not over a 24 hour period. I agree that eating garlic and other items may for a 1 or 2 hour period lower your blood pressure slightly, it is not these momentary lowerings that matter, but the longer term ones.

My medication controls my blood pressure over a 24 hour period and I take one pill per day. No matter when or how I measure my BP while I am on medication (morning, night, before taking the medicine, etc), my BP ranges from 120's - low 130's to 80's to low 90's. The 90 is still slightly high.

As I lost weight, exercised, etc my BP dropped more but I stayed on the medication and will continue to stay on it until I and a doctor agree I can try to come off it.

Bottom line - Controlling your BP for only certain periods of time over the course of the day to do BP lowering foods will not prevent the long term consequences of high BP, unless of course you want to swallow a glove of garlic every two hours, every day for the rest of your life.
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wrong, your blood pressure wants to be correct
eating good keeps it regular, when you eat that normal meal is when your blood pressure goes up..
if its happening when you havent eaten then a colon cleanse may be in order, see your guts have a layer of mucus that you keep digesting like forever, it is all that yucky shit youve been eating for the last 50 yerars. it is toxic,it is rotten, get it out
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"wrong, your blood pressure wants to be correct
eating good keeps it regular, when you eat that normal meal is when your blood pressure goes up..
if its happening when you havent eaten then a colon cleanse may be in order, see your guts have a layer of mucus that you keep digesting like forever, it is all that yucky shit youve been eating for the last 50 yerars. it is toxic,it is rotten, get it out"

Its thinking like this that kills people prematurely due to completely controllable conditions like high BP. Your BP doesn't 'want' to be anything... it is what it is.

Wash your colon with milk and honey if you want, but for goodness sake control your BP using methods that WORK instead of doing what 'feels good' or you 'think' should work.
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"wrong, your blood pressure wants to be correct
eating good keeps it regular, when you eat that normal meal is when your blood pressure goes up..
if its happening when you havent eaten then a colon cleanse may be in order, see your guts have a layer of mucus that you keep digesting like forever, it is all that yucky shit youve been eating for the last 50 yerars. it is toxic,it is rotten, get it out"

Its thinking like this that kills people prematurely due to completely controllable conditions like high BP. Your BP doesn't 'want' to be anything... it is what it is.

Wash your colon with milk and honey if you want, but for goodness sake control your BP using methods that WORK instead of doing what 'feels good' or you 'think' should work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9482

good luck with that
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"wrong, your blood pressure wants to be correct
eating good keeps it regular, when you eat that normal meal is when your blood pressure goes up..
if its happening when you havent eaten then a colon cleanse may be in order, see your guts have a layer of mucus that you keep digesting like forever, it is all that yucky shit youve been eating for the last 50 yerars. it is toxic,it is rotten, get it out"

Its thinking like this that kills people prematurely due to completely controllable conditions like high BP. Your BP doesn't 'want' to be anything... it is what it is.

Wash your colon with milk and honey if you want, but for goodness sake control your BP using methods that WORK instead of doing what 'feels good' or you 'think' should work.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9482

case in point

this person thinks that milk and honey are to be taken internally...

no wonder you have high blood pressure
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o... btw... i dont have high blood pressure or diabetes or any other disease that results from a poor diet.

funny most people in my family do have high blood pressure and diabetes and they are the ones telling me that diet dont matter... ask the doc chuckle if he fixes you he loses a patient.. lol
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what do doctors consider to be a high pressure?

maybe thats where the problem lies, alongside the myth that everyone has a body temp of 37degrees c.
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everyones body goes through cycles, and if you go to the doctors when you just happen to be at the min/max in the cycle, hey presto, u have diabetes, high blood pressure, cholesterol problems, etc etc.

then you get prescribed medication, which becomes the sole cause of the problem.

eg. your pancreas will not produce the right quantity of insulin if you suppliment it.

hence you become another sucker for the pharmaceutical industry
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i watched my fathers triglicerides go from thru the roof to nothing in no time from diet alone, he also got rid of his diabetes and high blood pressure....

prior to the diet change, the doc called him a dead man walking... all the docs had a good laugh...

he showed them and saved his life, got off ALL medication
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yes he was on insulin and bp meds
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"what do doctors consider to be a high pressure?"

Most doctors consider BP to be on the high side when in the 140/90 range. A good doctor will NEVER medicate on the first measurement. You will be requested to track your own BP over the course of a month of so at various times of the day so you can take into account the effects of being nervous, just eaten, need to eat, tired, etc.

Only if the overall trending shows high BP will you be put on medication. You then need to track your BP consistently to know if the medicine is working effectively or not.

The goal is a lowering of BP over the entire 24 hour period, not just momentary lowerings. Diet, exercise, etc can help but they do not help instantly. Even medication takes a few weeks to start the lowering effect.
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cigs and things also raise blood pressure
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so take that into account, like if you puff one down before you measure, itll be a bit high





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