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Does Trump Hate Science?
I happily voted for him, and will again in 2020, but I still have my concerns.

What's with all the cuts to education programs, like the one NASA offers.

I can understand the EPA, but why the National Institutes of Health?

The reason for this seems if there’s no science to point out potential problems, there won’t be any more regulations.

I am sure there are real reasons, but some of it seems overkill, especially when wanting to just take the money from Sciences, and move it to Military. That's not saving tax dollars, its just taking apples from one basket and moving them to another.

I have a friend who is working on his Doctorate in neuroscience, and when we talk, its hard to defend what Trump is doing to the science community. Which bugs me, because everything else the Left says about him is so easily debunked.

Please enlighten me, GLP!

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I happily voted for him, and will again in 2020, but I still have my concerns.

What's with all the cuts to education programs, like the one NASA offers.

I can understand the EPA, but why the National Institutes of Health?

The reason for this seems if there’s no science to point out potential problems, there won’t be any more regulations.

I am sure there are real reasons, but some of it seems overkill, especially when wanting to just take the money from Sciences, and move it to Military. That's not saving tax dollars, its just taking apples from one basket and moving them to another.

I have a friend who is working on his Doctorate in neuroscience, and when we talk, its hard to defend what Trump is doing to the science community. Which bugs me, because everything else the Left says about him is so easily debunked.

Please enlighten me, GLP!

[link to www.nature.com]

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 Quoting: BlueRidge Doom


Just gave away 19 BILLION to nasa, so I dunno. I thought we had a debt of 20 TRILLION. And yet he takes away meals on wheels. Crazy.
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Please enlighten me, GLP!
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Start a fundraising campaign to fund things you want funded. Get out your checkbook.
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Re: Does Trump Hate Science?
I happily voted for him, and will again in 2020, but I still have my concerns.

What's with all the cuts to education programs, like the one NASA offers.

I can understand the EPA, but why the National Institutes of Health?

The reason for this seems if there’s no science to point out potential problems, there won’t be any more regulations.

I am sure there are real reasons, but some of it seems overkill, especially when wanting to just take the money from Sciences, and move it to Military. That's not saving tax dollars, its just taking apples from one basket and moving them to another.

I have a friend who is working on his Doctorate in neuroscience, and when we talk, its hard to defend what Trump is doing to the science community. Which bugs me, because everything else the Left says about him is so easily debunked.

Please enlighten me, GLP!

[link to www.nature.com]

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 Quoting: BlueRidge Doom


Just gave away 19 BILLION to nasa, so I dunno. I thought we had a debt of 20 TRILLION. And yet he takes away meals on wheels. Crazy.
 Quoting: Natural Beauty


You sure about that? I thought so too until I looked deeper.

That was Obama's budget for NASA, passed by Congress, and now signed by Trump.

President Obama proposes $19 billion for NASA in fiscal 2017 budget

[link to www.usatoday.com]

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Re: Does Trump Hate Science?
I happily voted for him, and will again in 2020, but I still have my concerns.

What's with all the cuts to education programs, like the one NASA offers.

I can understand the EPA, but why the National Institutes of Health?

The reason for this seems if there’s no science to point out potential problems, there won’t be any more regulations.

I am sure there are real reasons, but some of it seems overkill, especially when wanting to just take the money from Sciences, and move it to Military. That's not saving tax dollars, its just taking apples from one basket and moving them to another.

I have a friend who is working on his Doctorate in neuroscience, and when we talk, its hard to defend what Trump is doing to the science community. Which bugs me, because everything else the Left says about him is so easily debunked.

Please enlighten me, GLP!

[link to www.nature.com]

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 Quoting: BlueRidge Doom


Just gave away 19 BILLION to nasa, so I dunno. I thought we had a debt of 20 TRILLION. And yet he takes away meals on wheels. Crazy.
 Quoting: Natural Beauty


You sure about that? I thought so too until I looked deeper.

That was Obama's budget for NASA, passed by Congress, and now signed by Trump.

President Obama proposes $19 billion for NASA in fiscal 2017 budget

[link to www.usatoday.com]

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Oh ok. Thanks for the info. He should NOT have signed it though imo.
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Please enlighten me, GLP!
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Start a fundraising campaign to fund things you want funded. Get out your checkbook.
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I already do, it's called paying taxes.

Personally, the only things I want funding for is cleaning the oceans and our land from plastic trash, and chemical pollutants.

Improve coal scrubber technology for more energy independence.

Stop GMO and Monsanto funding, and make sure my food and water isn't giving me cancer 10 or 15 years down the road.

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Just gave away 19 BILLION to nasa, so I dunno. I thought we had a debt of 20 TRILLION. And yet he takes away meals on wheels. Crazy.
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Correct on the money to NASA so how can he be anti science? The meals on wheels isn't as big a deal as it seems because it will effect only around 3% of their budget and really should be privately funded just like the "arts".
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I happily voted for him, and will again in 2020, but I still have my concerns.

What's with all the cuts to education programs, like the one NASA offers.

I can understand the EPA, but why the National Institutes of Health?

The reason for this seems if there’s no science to point out potential problems, there won’t be any more regulations.

I am sure there are real reasons, but some of it seems overkill, especially when wanting to just take the money from Sciences, and move it to Military. That's not saving tax dollars, its just taking apples from one basket and moving them to another.

I have a friend who is working on his Doctorate in neuroscience, and when we talk, its hard to defend what Trump is doing to the science community. Which bugs me, because everything else the Left says about him is so easily debunked.

Please enlighten me, GLP!

[link to www.nature.com]

trumpmore
 Quoting: BlueRidge Doom


Just gave away 19 BILLION to nasa, so I dunno. I thought we had a debt of 20 TRILLION. And yet he takes away meals on wheels. Crazy.
 Quoting: Natural Beauty


You sure about that? I thought so too until I looked deeper.

That was Obama's budget for NASA, passed by Congress, and now signed by Trump.

President Obama proposes $19 billion for NASA in fiscal 2017 budget

[link to www.usatoday.com]

odance
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Oh ok. Thanks for the info. He should NOT have signed it though imo.
 Quoting: Natural Beauty


I agree. But what can we do besides raise the issue.

Problem on here though, you cast any shade of doubt over what Trump is doing, and you're attacked. Thats why first thing I said I voted for Trump, and will again, granted he doesn't start a world war where one could be avoided.

The GOP and Dems are doing a damn good job and turning Trump into a lame duck, and preventing his team from getting into office.

At what point is thwarting the federal government considered as treason?

Anyway, whats w the lack of love towards science Trump!

Make America Great Again, education must be a priority! Not religious zealotry or super-patriotism.
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Re: Does Trump Hate Science?
He doesn't hate science. He hates bureaucratic waste. While the stated goals of some of these government programs is seemingly altruistic, there comes a point where it is not worth the money. For example, if you appropriate 20 billion for some project, but 17 billion is spent on top heavy administration, the ends do not justify the expense. That is the reality of most government programs.
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You sure about that? I thought so too until I looked deeper.

That was Obama's budget for NASA, passed by Congress, and now signed by Trump.

President Obama proposes $19 billion for NASA in fiscal 2017 budget

[link to www.usatoday.com]

odance
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He didn't have to sign off on it and if it all goes bad the one responsible will be the one with the signature on the dotted line so YES Trump did give that money to NASA.
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He doesn't hate science. He hates bureaucratic waste. While the stated goals of some of these government programs is seemingly altruistic, there comes a point where it is not worth the money. For example, if you appropriate 20 billion for some project, but 17 billion is spent on top heavy administration, the ends do not justify the expense. That is the reality of most government programs.
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I believe this too, but it's hard to drop facts and defend on the subject, and show proof this is what's occurring.

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You sure about that? I thought so too until I looked deeper.

That was Obama's budget for NASA, passed by Congress, and now signed by Trump.

President Obama proposes $19 billion for NASA in fiscal 2017 budget

[link to www.usatoday.com]

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He didn't have to sign off on it and if it all goes bad the one responsible will be the one with the signature on the dotted line so YES Trump did give that money to NASA.
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That's true. Good point, thank you.
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Just gave away 19 BILLION to nasa, so I dunno. I thought we had a debt of 20 TRILLION. And yet he takes away meals on wheels. Crazy.
 Quoting: Natural Beauty


You sure about that? I thought so too until I looked deeper.

That was Obama's budget for NASA, passed by Congress, and now signed by Trump.

President Obama proposes $19 billion for NASA in fiscal 2017 budget

[link to www.usatoday.com]

odance
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Oh ok. Thanks for the info. He should NOT have signed it though imo.
 Quoting: Natural Beauty


I agree. But what can we do besides raise the issue.

Problem on here though, you cast any shade of doubt over what Trump is doing, and you're attacked. Thats why first thing I said I voted for Trump, and will again, granted he doesn't start a world war where one could be avoided.

The GOP and Dems are doing a damn good job and turning Trump into a lame duck, and preventing his team from getting into office.

At what point is thwarting the federal government considered as treason?

Anyway, whats w the lack of love towards science Trump!

Make America Great Again, education must be a priority! Not religious zealotry or super-patriotism.
 Quoting: BlueRidge Doom

Strongly agreed.Astro had a great post about his work and school and the fact there were only one other American with doctorates there and most others were from abroad, highlighting what you are saying.

I too think we need to take a serious look at the education system, and quickly. It's in the plan I guess for the latter generations to be dullards and they probably hope we fall way behind..like we will if it doesn't change.
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Here it is:

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While I do support going forward to a manned Mars mission, I am concerned about the proposed budget cuts to NASA's STEM scholarships and education. I'm all for getting the federal government out of education, but there is a desperate need to encourage and train the next generation of US-born scientists and engineers. ITAR restricts foreign nationals from working even on unclassified projects involving defense, including rocketry, without a license to do so. For the US to maintain its lead in spaceflight we need to make sure we're properly educating our own citizens in science and engineering.

As a scientist in the US myself, the vast majority of the people I work with are foreign nationals. The US just doesn't produce quality scientists in my field as often as it should. There's currently only one other US-born PhD scientist at my institute. The rest all immigrated here (legally). The educational system needs a massive overhaul, to get away from politically correct teaching, social justice, and other crap, and get back to teaching the fundamentals of science and math without trying to avoid "hurting a child's feelings" if they fail to perform and without filling it with "social justice" crap either.

NASA is a large part of the reason I had the desire to go into science from childhood, so it's about time that NASA got back to the business of inspiring the next generation of scientists.
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You sure about that? I thought so too until I looked deeper.

That was Obama's budget for NASA, passed by Congress, and now signed by Trump.

President Obama proposes $19 billion for NASA in fiscal 2017 budget

[link to www.usatoday.com]

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He didn't have to sign off on it and if it all goes bad the one responsible will be the one with the signature on the dotted line so YES Trump did give that money to NASA.
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That's true. Good point, thank you.
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Feel like more of a PUNK ASSHOLE now or did you always know you were?
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He hates bad science.
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He hates bad science.
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I like that
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More red please.. low IQ shills and cannon fodder

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like me he knows bullshit when he smells itbsflag
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More red please.. low IQ shills and cannon fodder

Those who know me, know I am anything but ANTI Trump

It's a badge of honor

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LOL they got me too....I'll give you green when it replenishes in an hour or so.

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You always have a twisted outlook. I say you receive a shitty influence from somewhere. Like watching CNN or you have a relative that's a commie.

Snap out of it. You're colon is being poked.
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I am the only person in my family who supported, and continues to support Trump.

Try growing up in Asheville. You're surrounded by cousin kissing rednecks or entitled self-oppressed snowflakes

GLP helped break me out of the trance, many years ago.

As far as my other outlooks, I've seen a lot of fucked up stuff first hand.

My goal w this thread was to actually get some insight on what Trump intends to do regarding science, since a friend of mine is asking me, and I am left blank.

I know he truly wants to save America, and Trump's been pretty clear on most subjects, so I was hoping someone could fill me in.

I'll continue to ignore the disinformation and bullshit, while hoping for the best.

In Trump I Trust.

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he just tripled nasa's budget
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why the fuck do we need to fund NASA at this point?
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Most of the science you got is false.

Evotardism and Global warming tardism is not science it's pseudo science and it seem to put it's slime over all other things. No good.
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why the fuck do we need to fund NASA at this point?
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Space mining operations?
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very fake science.

Global warming scientist lied, admitted to lying yet people still believe it.
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why the fuck do we need to fund NASA at this point?
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:aliens:
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Defund nih cause they lie about vaccine safety
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Defund nih cause they lie about vaccine safety
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