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What Type of MATH is used in Blueprints?

 
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Are you trying to build, without experience, an offshore oil rig some time in the near future? Blow one up?

It would help if you gave a hint as to what you are actually trying to figure out on a blueprint.
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Haha! That'd be a hell of an undertaking! I've never been involved with Oil platformplans, but I know for buildings and developments, there is a whole team of Architects, civil engineers, mechanical engineers, structural engineers and environmentalists.. I guess you'd probably add in petroleum engineering into the mix on a oil platform. Add all that expertise up and that's a whole lotta schooling and math..
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I'm always amazed at the engineering that goes into platforms. Not even just the physical plant, but the oil exploration, the giant drilling ships searching for pockets of black gold, and even moving the plant from port to sea is amazing. Thoughts on pollution aside, the fact that people can do this stuff is incredible.
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It's really is fascinating. The sheer scope of everything involved is astounding. I was watching a show about saturation divers/welders the other day. This is an intense job. They stay pressurized, at depth, for 28 days. Breathing a mix of O and He the entire time. Then, after their 28 day hitch, they decompress for 6 days.. They make anywhere from 45,000 to 90,000 a month, depending on the depth. Crazy..
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Well, they don't stay at depth. They enter a submersible while at depth that is pressurized at the same depth. That is then taken up to the ship the rest of the crew is on, and the pressure is maintained throughout. If they somehow lost pressure in there, they would die a very painful death..
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Thanks for the bumps, guys, but I gotta know specifically which types of math is imperative in reading blueprints.
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its like a post asking how to code fortran. too much for a bb

too read blueprints you need no math

too make blueprints you must know loads, material, fasteners, spans, and much more. tons and tons of product approval docs
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You need loads of math to read blueprints. For instance if you are a mason, you're looking at the wall in 8" or 16" increments (size of brick & block length, respectively), you need to convert feet to inches, to determine how many brick or block you need.

No one who doesn't know basic math, can read blueprints.
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he said oil rig not masonry
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That's why I said "For instance"...
I've been in construction all my life and read blueprints, build buildings, etc. The plans one reads to build anything, requires math skills.
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Vector, raster and topology
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its like a post asking how to code fortran. too much for a bb

too read blueprints you need no math

too make blueprints you must know loads, material, fasteners, spans, and much more. tons and tons of product approval docs
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You need loads of math to read blueprints. For instance if you are a mason, you're looking at the wall in 8" or 16" increments (size of brick & block length, respectively), you need to convert feet to inches, to determine how many brick or block you need.

No one who doesn't know basic math, can read blueprints.
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he said oil rig not masonry
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That's why I said "For instance"...
I've been in construction all my life and read blueprints, build buildings, etc. The plans one reads to build anything, requires math skills.
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I don't know man, I met some pretty stupid people in my time that are supposed to be smart fellas.. The only math you really need to read or interpret plans is how to use a scale or tape measure. Geometry would help as well. Putting together a set of plans is a completely different monster.
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Thanks for the answers, really appreciate it.

No, I have no plans to build an offshore oil rig...
it's a writing project, so I don't need detailed info.

Just having trouble finding out what sort of maths are used to read offshore oil rig blueprints.

I think algebra & def geometry are used, but wasn't sure if it goes any deeper than that.

thanks1
 Quoting: DeadManWalkin'


You're going to have to have the scale of the drawing, is it going to be 1/4" = 12" or ?

Yes there will be some angles that have to be read as well.

Keep in mind that it's the construction crew reading what you call blueprints; there's not going to be any trig or calculus ON the drawings. The higher math calculations have been done by others.
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Re: What Type of MATH is used in Blueprints?
You don't need math to read blueprints, they wete drawn so the simple minded mexican construction worker could look at it and build it.

The engineers who designed the oil platform have to take math up to cal3, linear algebra, statistics, statics, and dynamics.
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Re: What Type of MATH is used in Blueprints?
A blueprint is a reproduction of a technical drawing, documenting an architecture or an engineering design, using a contact print process on light-sensitive sheets.

Traditional blueprints have largely been replaced by more modern, less expensive printing methods and digital displays. In the early 1940s, cyanotype blueprint began to be supplanted by diazo prints, also known as whiteprints, which have blue lines on a white background; thus these drawings are also called blue-lines or bluelines.

SO, what you really need to know is how TECHNICAL DRAWINGS are created.
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and I cannot think of any particular "types of math" is used.

A technical drawing is an accurate and extensive specification with extensive MEASUREMENTS that allow skilled persons to BUILD or create.
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It depend on where you are in the world most use the metric system while others use the Imperial system . At my work i build for temples and buildings all over the world so i use both systems just depends on what country drew the blueprints . Now if you are drawing blueprints thats a whole lot more complicated . Lots of math in the engineering and also the design aspects
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Thanks for the answers, really appreciate it.

No, I have no plans to build an offshore oil rig...
it's a writing project, so I don't need detailed info.

Just having trouble finding out what sort of maths are used to read offshore oil rig blueprints.

I think algebra & def geometry are used, but wasn't sure if it goes any deeper than that.

thanks1
 Quoting: DeadManWalkin'


You're going to have to have the scale of the drawing, is it going to be 1/4" = 12" or ?

Yes there will be some angles that have to be read as well.

Keep in mind that it's the construction crew reading what you call blueprints; there's not going to be any trig or calculus ON the drawings. The higher math calculations have been done by others.
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THAT is what I'm getting at, thank you!
So the guys reading the plans & implementing them don't have to know any higher math?
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Re: What Type of MATH is used in Blueprints?
You don't need math to read blueprints, they wete drawn so the simple minded mexican construction worker could look at it and build it.

The engineers who designed the oil platform have to take math up to cal3, linear algebra, statistics, statics, and dynamics.
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A blueprint is a reproduction of a technical drawing, documenting an architecture or an engineering design, using a contact print process on light-sensitive sheets.

Traditional blueprints have largely been replaced by more modern, less expensive printing methods and digital displays. In the early 1940s, cyanotype blueprint began to be supplanted by diazo prints, also known as whiteprints, which have blue lines on a white background; thus these drawings are also called blue-lines or bluelines.

SO, what you really need to know is how TECHNICAL DRAWINGS are created.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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and I cannot think of any particular "types of math" is used.

A technical drawing is an accurate and extensive specification with extensive MEASUREMENTS that allow skilled persons to BUILD or create.
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Re: What Type of MATH is used in Blueprints?
Mainly Trigonometry. You don't need any more than that.
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With a ruler, an 1/8 inch = one foot
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Re: What Type of MATH is used in Blueprints?
Scale

Start there.

It will be on the plans and called out.

From there, it's pretty simple... unless you find yourself working on a platform
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Re: What Type of MATH is used in Blueprints?
Thanks for the answers, really appreciate it.

No, I have no plans to build an offshore oil rig...
it's a writing project, so I don't need detailed info.

Just having trouble finding out what sort of maths are used to read offshore oil rig blueprints.

I think algebra & def geometry are used, but wasn't sure if it goes any deeper than that.

:thanks1:
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Trust me, the engineers do not leave the math up to the construction guys. If they did they'd be falling down left and right. About all a contractor needs to know when reading a plan is scale and the ability to measure.
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geometry and physics
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Geometry and trigonometry
Calculation of area
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First of all, "blueprint" is an obsolete term.
Printers connected to computers print ANY color.
Units of dimensioning are the same ones used in any industry on the planet, METRIC or ENGLISH, now usually BOTH.

Go to a good local community college and enroll in the pre-engineering curriculum. Be sure and take "statics" and "dynamics", gear your classes towards the "petro-chemical" industry.

If you just want a job in that industry FORGET ABOUT IT.
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I install HVAC.

After 20+ years in the trade I was put on a new Federal prison job, and all the prints were metric.

I had to buy a metric ruler and tape measure.

I was mad at first, but later I thought of it as a learning experience and had fun with it.

It's cool to learn something new. But it sucks being forced to learn something new.

1/4" = 1' dammit, lol.
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algebra trig and calculus
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Scale is the most important one for the end user ( construction type worker). In almost 100 % of cases, the scale is described right on the drawings and even sometimes, a ruler or sample scale provided somewhere on the documents( think of a map - same concept). A group of drawings may have many different scales, so each page must be checked carefully. That and the ability to convert metric to imperial when required. other than that, calculations have been done at the design/engineering phase, usually aided by computers.
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Thanks for the bumps, guys, but I gotta know specifically which types of math is imperative in reading blueprints.
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its like a post asking how to code fortran. too much for a bb

too read blueprints you need no math

too make blueprints you must know loads, material, fasteners, spans, and much more. tons and tons of product approval docs
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Fortran is actually really easy. You wait until late the night before the assignment is due, go to the computer lab, dive in the dumpster to see the printouts that all the other students did that had errors, find one with a really easy error to fix and fix it. There, not hard at all
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Math Required:
College Algebra, Trigonometry, Calculus I and II, Probability and Statistics, Linear Programming
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She's right on the money. It's mostly Algebra, Geometry and Trig, though. The "fancy" math is all done in the final analysis. Vector calc and vector algebra makes an appearance here and there.

Why do you want to know?
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Math Required:
College Algebra, Trigonometry, Calculus I and II, Probability and Statistics, Linear Programming
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She's right on the money. It's mostly Algebra, Geometry and Trig, though. The "fancy" math is all done in the final analysis. Vector calc and vector algebra makes an appearance here and there.

Why do you want to know?
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It's for a writing project, as mentioned earlier in the thread.
I don't have to be able to read the blueprints, just needed accurate info for what I'm writing.

Thanks for all the help!
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Re: What Type of MATH is used in Blueprints?
Thanks for the answers, really appreciate it.

No, I have no plans to build an offshore oil rig...
it's a writing project, so I don't need detailed info.

Just having trouble finding out what sort of maths are used to read offshore oil rig blueprints.

I think algebra & def geometry are used, but wasn't sure if it goes any deeper than that.

thanks1
 Quoting: DeadManWalkin'


You're going to have to have the scale of the drawing, is it going to be 1/4" = 12" or ?

Yes there will be some angles that have to be read as well.

Keep in mind that it's the construction crew reading what you call blueprints; there's not going to be any trig or calculus ON the drawings. The higher math calculations have been done by others.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


Larry, I can't respond to pvt msgs because I'm not a paid acct. It's a non-fiction about a high school grad who supervised a multi-national fab yard, building off-shore oil rig platforms in the 70s.
As a genetically-cursed maths idiot, I simply had no CLUE what type of skill it took to use a blueprint for such an undertaking.
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Thanks for the bumps, guys, but I gotta know specifically which types of math is imperative in reading blueprints.
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Geometry, and geometrical tolerancing.
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Thanks for the bumps, guys, but I gotta know specifically which types of math is imperative in reading blueprints.
 Quoting: DeadManWalkin'


its like a post asking how to code fortran. too much for a bb

too read blueprints you need no math

too make blueprints you must know loads, material, fasteners, spans, and much more. tons and tons of product approval docs
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You need loads of math to read blueprints. For instance if you are a mason, you're looking at the wall in 8" or 16" increments (size of brick & block length, respectively), you need to convert feet to inches, to determine how many brick or block you need.

No one who doesn't know basic math, can read blueprints.
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he said oil rig not masonry
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Would be helpful to know what information op is trying to gain from the blueprint.
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Re: What Type of MATH is used in Blueprints?
Trig,

mainly
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its like a post asking how to code fortran. too much for a bb

too read blueprints you need no math

too make blueprints you must know loads, material, fasteners, spans, and much more. tons and tons of product approval docs
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 63249987


You need loads of math to read blueprints. For instance if you are a mason, you're looking at the wall in 8" or 16" increments (size of brick & block length, respectively), you need to convert feet to inches, to determine how many brick or block you need.

No one who doesn't know basic math, can read blueprints.
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he said oil rig not masonry
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Would be helpful to know what information op is trying to gain from the blueprint.
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Never mind- this was answered- just didn't read far enough!!
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