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If a charged particle curves in a magnetic field when moving....

 
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Re: If a charged particle curves in a magnetic field when moving....
Yeah, but what if this is happening on a treadmill ?
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Re: If a charged particle curves in a magnetic field when moving....
Watched it and I agree, magnetic field is altering the light propagation. But not sure if that is simply from reflection/refraction changes.

I would love to see the same experiment done with an electromagnet that can be turned on/off. Or a magnet with a way to close it and reroute the field back to its pole.


That would be more conclusive.

wait....I almost watched the whole thing. Would be funny if he did that at the end.
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A spherical ferrocell would be awesome. Where it can be opened up and place magnet inside.

I wonder if it can be done with some heavy mil plastic sheet. Then you would have a flexible ferrocell.
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Re: If a charged particle curves in a magnetic field when moving....
do you get what i was saying about there being a black hole in the middle of a magnet now?
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I am intrigued by your idea there.
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Re: If a charged particle curves in a magnetic field when moving....
The Lorrentz force violates newtons 3rd law
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If you have a stationary wire between a stationary magnetic feild all strapped to a board, so that lorrentz force pushes the wire upwards, you will have a flying machine if you give it enough current. Put the board on a scale to show the decrease in weight when you put a current through the wire. Make a YouTube video and post it on this thread.
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Biefeld-Brown, look it up.

Asymmetric capacitance. Causes lift, even if the electric polarity is flipped, inertial force is same direction.

It is based on the dielectric field shape. Which is the same if polarity is flipped.

Also, two positive charges will NOT repel on each other until a negative charge is introduced.

Hence, it is not the particle that acts upon the other. It is the particles field that interacts with others. With out a negative charge present, no flux lines are made to repel each other.

Yes, but you need capacitors and capacitors only give one jolt at a time. Therefore it has frequency of i interval forces. Plus you need an atmosphere that Gives the system electrons, thus cannot work in a vacuum. However with what I proposed, a constant current along with a constant magnetic feild will give a constant for regardless of what atmosphere the system is in. However, it needs a lot of current to build an actual flying machine. The trick is to get the minimum potential (voltage) to complete the circuit in order to maximize current.

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Re: If a charged particle curves in a magnetic field when moving....
A spherical ferrocell would be awesome. Where it can be opened up and place magnet inside.

I wonder if it can be done with some heavy mil plastic sheet. Then you would have a flexible ferrocell.
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now consider this. while bearing in mind induction of magnetic field is at play here generating the effect and heat.

why is this sphere shaped and is it equivalent to zero g?



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Re: If a charged particle curves in a magnetic field when moving....
A spherical ferrocell would be awesome. Where it can be opened up and place magnet inside.

I wonder if it can be done with some heavy mil plastic sheet. Then you would have a flexible ferrocell.
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now consider this. while bearing in mind induction of magnetic field is at play here generating the effect and heat.

why is this sphere shaped and is it equivalent to zero g?




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That is pretty cool.

I think the rounding is from surface tension and the stretch to egg shape is from fighting gravity while levitating.

Egg shape I am not too sure.... but the rounding seems normal for any fluid suspended.


Still really neat video, thanks.
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Re: If a charged particle curves in a magnetic field when moving....
The Lorrentz force violates newtons 3rd law
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If you have a stationary wire between a stationary magnetic feild all strapped to a board, so that lorrentz force pushes the wire upwards, you will have a flying machine if you give it enough current. Put the board on a scale to show the decrease in weight when you put a current through the wire. Make a YouTube video and post it on this thread.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40483822


Biefeld-Brown, look it up.

Asymmetric capacitance. Causes lift, even if the electric polarity is flipped, inertial force is same direction.

It is based on the dielectric field shape. Which is the same if polarity is flipped.

Also, two positive charges will NOT repel on each other until a negative charge is introduced.

Hence, it is not the particle that acts upon the other. It is the particles field that interacts with others. With out a negative charge present, no flux lines are made to repel each other.

Yes, but you need capacitors and capacitors only give one jolt at a time. Therefore it has frequency of i interval forces. Plus you need an atmosphere that Gives the system electrons, thus cannot work in a vacuum. However with what I proposed, a constant current along with a constant magnetic feild will give a constant for regardless of what atmosphere the system is in. However, it needs a lot of current to build an actual flying machine. The trick is to get the minimum potential (voltage) to complete the circuit in order to maximize current.

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I was thinking about a water pump. Such a device should move anything below it that is not held in place. Water is not held in place.

It probably could draw water out of objects. Like cactus.





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