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When was jesus born?

 
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When was jesus born?
according to Matthew 2:1

Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king
, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,

jesus was born during the days of king Herod.
king herod died in 4 bc ( [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] this means jesus was born in 4 bc MAXIMUM.


if we are told herod sought to kill all the babies who were 2 years old and younger, this means jesus could have been born in 6 - 5 bc as well, but! 4 bc is the absolute MAXIMUM



now Luke tells us in Luke 2:1-6

And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed.

2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)

3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.

4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)

5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.

according to Luke, Mary was pregnant when Cyrenious was governor of syria.

Cyrenious was made governor of syria in 6 AD.

this means jesus was born in 6 AD MINIMUM.


so we have a problem.

Matthew says 4-6BC MAXIMUM
Luke says 6AD MINIMUM


you want me to believe the holy spirit wrote this piece of crap?!
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Re: When was jesus born?
crickets
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Re: When was jesus born?
No one knows if he truly existed. Since it contradicts itself. I like to know what happen when he was in his "teen" years..
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Re: When was jesus born?
So the Lord Jesus Christ is returning sometimes around 2030???
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Re: When was jesus born?
3 B.C.

How that makes sense I have no idea.
AMERICAN EXCEPTIONALISM:

KICKING ASS, KILLING NAZIS, KILLING COMMIES, MAKING BABIES, BUILDING CITIES, EXPLORING SPACE, GOING TO THE MOON, AND PUTTING THE "CIVIL" IN CIVILIZATION SINCE 1776!

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But I tell you this man, I tell you this, I carry an aura of "fuck you" everywhere I go and while I may not cause scenes I can sure as hell continue them and escalate them but good.

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There is going to be a second revolution folks.

Count on it - and it will be the citizens against the government.

It will be damn bloody. It will be a war of attrition. It will result in over 100 million dead.

The heavy handedness of the government - the fascists in code enforcement and animal control especially - have brought this upon themselves.
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Re: When was jesus born?
3 B.C.

How that makes sense I have no idea.
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so just come up with a number out of nowhere, shrug the problems under the rug and keep faith in jesus...

think you know G-d's position regarding jesus?

how do you think G-d would see such an act in the case G-d is not in favor of jesus?

does G-d care for truth?
has G-d made it possible for us to know the truth?
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Re: When was jesus born?
according to Matthew 2:1

Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king
, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem,

jesus was born during the days of king Herod.
king herod died in 4 bc ( [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] this means jesus was born in 4 bc MAXIMUM.


if we are told herod sought to kill all the babies who were 2 years old and younger, this means jesus could have been born in 6 - 5 bc as well, but! 4 bc is the absolute MAXIMUM



now Luke tells us in Luke 2:1-6

And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be taxed.

2 (And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)

3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.

4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David:)

5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.

6 And so it was, that, while they were there, the days were accomplished that she should be delivered.

according to Luke, Mary was pregnant when Cyrenious was governor of syria.

Cyrenious was made governor of syria in 6 AD.

this means jesus was born in 6 AD MINIMUM.


so we have a problem.

Matthew says 4-6BC MAXIMUM
Luke says 6AD MINIMUM


you want me to believe the holy spirit wrote this piece of crap?!
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Who is Jesus
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Re: When was jesus born?
IDK but...
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Re: When was jesus born?
Jesus never had sex with opposite sex?
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Only this torture and a deepening hatred of the hypocrisy that damned me to this hell.
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Re: When was jesus born?
September 3 bc. Died about April 3 on a Wednesday 30 ad.
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Re: When was jesus born?
September 3 bc. Died about April 3 on a Wednesday 30 ad.
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and how does this work out with what luke is saying?

that jesus was born when Cyreneious was governor of syria.

and that didnt happen untill 6 AD?
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04/11/2017 06:40 AM
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Re: When was jesus born?
he wasn't
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Re: When was jesus born?
bump
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Re: When was jesus born?
what did the people living at the time of the birth of Jesus call the year they lived in? they wouldn't call it '0 AD' would they?
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Re: When was jesus born?
what did the people living at the time of the birth of Jesus call the year they lived in? they wouldn't call it '0 AD' would they?
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it doesnt matter.

what matters is was he born during the time of king herod or cyrenious as the governor of syria.
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Re: When was jesus born?
what did the people living at the time of the birth of Jesus call the year they lived in? they wouldn't call it '0 AD' would they?
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it doesnt matter.

what matters is was he born during the time of king herod or cyrenious as the governor of syria.
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of course it matters
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Re: When was jesus born?
what did the people living at the time of the birth of Jesus call the year they lived in? they wouldn't call it '0 AD' would they?
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it doesnt matter.

what matters is was he born during the time of king herod or cyrenious as the governor of syria.
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of course it matters
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explain
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Re: When was jesus born?
About 9 months after she got knocked up by that God dude she was seeing behind Joseph's back?
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Re: When was jesus born?
About 9 months after she got knocked up by that God dude she was seeing behind Joseph's back?
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I'd appreciate it if you could be serious.
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Re: When was jesus born?
Esu Imanuel Sananda was born on August 8, 8BC.
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Re: When was jesus born?
Sept 11th. 3 bc
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Re: When was jesus born?
Esu Imanuel Sananda was born on August 8, 8BC.
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this contradicts luke who said he was born when cyrenious was governor of syria, that didnt happen untill 6 AD
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Re: When was jesus born?
Sept 11th. 3 bc
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this contradicts both matthew and luke.
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Re: When was jesus born?
Sept 11th. 3 bc
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this contradicts both matthew and luke.
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According to forensic astronomy software and the constellations listed in the bible.
September 11th, 3bc.

There are several papers written about it. Take a look.
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Re: When was jesus born?
Mary became pregnant about 6 months or maybe it was 5, after Elizabeth. Back then they went by what is known today as Etheopian calendar. So there would be 2 dates, that one and the one recalculated Gregorion, none of which are in December.
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Re: When was jesus born?
Sept 11th. 3 bc
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this contradicts both matthew and luke.
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According to forensic astronomy software and the constellations listed in the bible.
September 11th, 3bc.

There are several papers written about it. Take a look.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70075401


so what do you trust more, astronomy or the words of the luke and matthew?

cause the date based on astronomy doesnt line up with them.
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Re: When was jesus born?
Mary became pregnant about 6 months or maybe it was 5, after Elizabeth. Back then they went by what is known today as Etheopian calendar. So there would be 2 dates, that one and the one recalculated Gregorion, none of which are in December.
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and the birth... did it take place during the reign of herod or cyrenious?
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Re: When was jesus born?
Mary became pregnant about 6 months or maybe it was 5, after Elizabeth. Back then they went by what is known today as Etheopian calendar. So there would be 2 dates, that one and the one recalculated Gregorion, none of which are in December.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6632281


and the birth... did it take place during the reign of herod or cyrenious?
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It is written that it did.
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Re: When was jesus born?
well what do you know, an Israeli bashing Jesus.
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Re: When was jesus born?
Mary became pregnant about 6 months or maybe it was 5, after Elizabeth. Back then they went by what is known today as Etheopian calendar. So there would be 2 dates, that one and the one recalculated Gregorion, none of which are in December.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6632281


and the birth... did it take place during the reign of herod or cyrenious?
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It is written that it did.
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but you do know that its impossible.

because herod died in 4 bc and cyrenious was only made governor in 6 ad
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Re: When was jesus born?
well what do you know, an Israeli bashing Jesus.
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so you want me to leave you believing lies in peace.

tbh, I would have probably done that had it not been that christianity is a spin off of J-daism.





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