Carl Vinson About 48 hours out

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What are the chances that NK takes out the entire battle group with a salvo of nuke-tipped medium-range ballistic missiles. or the chance also that a NK sub could be armed with a nuke torpedo and destroy the battle group that way?

Serious. Any thoughts?

The aircraft carriers are much faster than stated...

purposely 60% underrated I was told- not sure if that is accurate or not-

Could be there any moment based on that...

Highly doubt all the ships would be that close to one another...

Nuclear torpedo is a lot harder to make than a missile- highly doubt they have any unless Russia or China gave them some...

There is a chance North Korea has some pretty decent Chinese or Russian weapons hidden away for stuff like this...

If we lost a couple carrier battle groups to anti ship missiles I think the US military would be forever devastated moral wise.

Biggest threat I think is China and Russia deciding enough is enough and standing up with Kim.

I'm sure the subs are already there.

They go faster than that...I could tell you but then I would have to kill you

Any actions Kim takes is suicide, and he knows it.

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Last Edited by PIR on 04/11/2017 10:52 PM

It should be a fun late week and weekend!

This is true.

I had a friend who was stationed on the Vinson. It can cruise at about 70 knots fully loaded and on a calm sea.

NO....was sationed on Uss coral sea and no carrier can go that fast. Hell destroyer cant go that fast. My Ski boat cant go that fast......

Truthfully, I would be scared if I was on that damn thing. Why do people think Kim is such a lightweight? :|

Last Edited by Up5ideDown on 04/11/2017 11:29 PM

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It does not matter how fast the Vinson can go. It will travel with with the group. Cruisers, destroyers and support/supply ships. None will exceed approximately 20 knots, maybe 25, probably 15 or so. The carrier is vulnerable without air defence supplied by the cg or dd's. The faster it travels, the more vulnerable it becomes. It will not show up alone without support. These battle group assets also supply additional anti sub defence, they clear the forward moving task force, search the flanks and protect the rear. As I recall NK has a shit load of old, but somewhat quiet diesel subs.

Doubt one carrier task force will engage unless the task is simple. Knock out the nuke sites and HAVE the ability to wipe C2, command and control. Otherwise this is simply the threat of power projection. A warning, albiet a serious one.

Keep in mind the US does have the ability gather existing support forces in Japan, Gaum, Pearl, even B1 AND B2, stealth from Conus.

I will not be surprised if behind the scenes deals are being cut. Imagine this, NK is told to sacrifice their nuke program by China. More on this later.

One major hit, NK takes the hit and hibernates for several years. No relaliation, no regime loss, Kim gets to remain in power. Everyone "wins". Trump is a winner.

The longer game is now in play. If anything like this transpires expect retribution down the road. If deals have not been cut, expect WW3 now. Trump clearly telegraphed the deal by making the statement about "trade deals" with China.

Remember one simple fact. ALL wars are about money.

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