Regular reality is not the valley of shadow of death (underworld)...it's where you go when you're in "spirit". Whether or not they physically kill you to put you there I do not know...I believe it to be the case of what the "harvest" is here...forced reincarnation trap.

Why do I say that? Because they don't tell you what's up they just start in with their b.s. (stalking) which generally they must do (tell you what's up). They actually never do in the underworld, they just allude to things.

Humans don't live in the underworld because of the restrainer but it doesn't necessarily mean they live on earth which I take to be the heart (jerusalem) which is regular earth/mother (earth)/isis.

I don't ascribe to these matrix allegories they were thrust on me and are the best way to relay what's going on here. The truth is that if you look at this as the way out of this environment you are likely to end up back at square one (in the matrix)...have to return to source GOD (eternal realm). Does Jesus say this? Yes but I think because of the parameters of the walk being in time (in the programming) it might be difficult to find. Like when Jesus said "work my way back to the Father" it was probably at the referential beginning of the walk which is also at the end.

I have both trees...they are artifices (chakra stuff) nothing more. Bring you no closer to the true GOD but bring you closer to the matrix God(s). You're a battery here.