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I think even before one attempts to piece together the logistics of this thing, it would be important to ask: Why do it? One may say it's gun control related (I don't believe that was a primary objective), mental health screening for students (possibly), or others. Surely, there were a number of reasons. Perhaps others can cite additional motives.

My belief is that the massive investment and coordination of government agencies, law enforcement, medical professionals, possibly acting troupes, and private government subcontractors was/is part of the budget for a larger scheme, or "Operation ____" (think of the government intel ops throughout the '50's '60's -- I won't name them for obvious reasons). This is the "strategy of tension" -- intel's use of staged terrorism to manufacture consent or shape public opinion, with the added component of spreading fear, uneasiness, and a sense of helplessness among citizens. Fearful people are angry and emotionally pliable, weak, and easily diverted, which is the way they seem to like us.

I don't think the event had one specific motive, but was a key stop on the culture-molding process. It's aim was largely psychological. It's orchestrators must be devoid of human emotion, but efficient and willing to do what their superiors tell them without questioning.

SH was a major beta test to see if a staged event can be entered into history as objective reality. It remains to be seen if that goal has been fully reached.
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Call me crazy, but this was the tipping point for me to start to believe there is another species amongst us. This other species looks like us, but they are not the same. They certainly don't have emotion or empathy.
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I think even before one attempts to piece together the logistics of this thing, it would be important to ask: Why do it? One may say it's gun control related (I don't believe that was a primary objective), mental health screening for students (possibly), or others. Surely, there were a number of reasons. Perhaps others can cite additional motives.

My belief is that the massive investment and coordination of government agencies, law enforcement, medical professionals, possibly acting troupes, and private government subcontractors was/is part of the budget for a larger scheme, or "Operation ____" (think of the government intel ops throughout the '50's '60's -- I won't name them for obvious reasons). This is the "strategy of tension" -- intel's use of staged terrorism to manufacture consent or shape public opinion, with the added component of spreading fear, uneasiness, and a sense of helplessness among citizens. Fearful people are angry and emotionally pliable, weak, and easily diverted, which is the way they seem to like us.

I don't think the event had one specific motive, but was a key stop on the culture-molding process. It's aim was largely psychological. It's orchestrators must be devoid of human emotion, but efficient and willing to do what their superiors tell them without questioning.

SH was a major beta test to see if a staged event can be entered into history as objective reality. It remains to be seen if that goal has been fully reached.
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Call me crazy, but this was the tipping point for me to start to believe there is another species amongst us. This other species looks like us, but they are not the same. They certainly don't have emotion or empathy.
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Heh. Well for the sake of this discussion let's just go with cold hearted people.

Although..think about the angst from someone that thought they were part of a drill. I think much of the confusion and in your face shaming is to insight fear that they stay in line.

I believe the "awards" that were handed out were a way to keep everyone in check. How can you accept an award if you were just playing along in a drill???? Now if any of these people come forward the "award" effectively shuts them down.
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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sh was in a big book town. those people wanted to live a book mythology and created this semi event. they worship their libraries. thats in inside joke for people that know these earth hugging flock.
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sh was in a big book town. those people wanted to live a book mythology and created this semi event. they worship their libraries. thats in inside joke for people that know these earth hugging flock.
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Shady Hook appears more and more in being an alphabet agency town. If you know what I mean. At least in that part of Newtown. We can't even get a local to acknowledge whether it was a functional school or not?!
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if everyone starts saying they heard that this is fake
then it tightens the vice on the handful that are intrusted with keeping it a secret. think of it this way. this gatekeepers are not to leak it. but if people start saying they know the truth it gets pinpointed on the gatekeepers that they released the information
and it ends up making them crack under duress all in the end from the blackmail/nda/withcraft they are under.
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I think even before one attempts to piece together the logistics of this thing, it would be important to ask: Why do it? One may say it's gun control related (I don't believe that was a primary objective), mental health screening for students (possibly), or others. Surely, there were a number of reasons. Perhaps others can cite additional motives.

My belief is that the massive investment and coordination of government agencies, law enforcement, medical professionals, possibly acting troupes, and private government subcontractors was/is part of the budget for a larger scheme, or "Operation ____" (think of the government intel ops throughout the '50's '60's -- I won't name them for obvious reasons). This is the "strategy of tension" -- intel's use of staged terrorism to manufacture consent or shape public opinion, with the added component of spreading fear, uneasiness, and a sense of helplessness among citizens. Fearful people are angry and emotionally pliable, weak, and easily diverted, which is the way they seem to like us.

I don't think the event had one specific motive, but was a key stop on the culture-molding process. It's aim was largely psychological. It's orchestrators must be devoid of human emotion, but efficient and willing to do what their superiors tell them without questioning.

SH was a major beta test to see if a staged event can be entered into history as objective reality. It remains to be seen if that goal has been fully reached.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74733357


Call me crazy, but this was the tipping point for me to start to believe there is another species amongst us. This other species looks like us, but they are not the same. They certainly don't have emotion or empathy.
 Quoting: Starbird


Heh. Well for the sake of this discussion let's just go with cold hearted people.

Although..think about the angst from someone that thought they were part of a drill. I think much of the confusion and in your face shaming is to insight fear that they stay in line.

I believe the "awards" that were handed out were a way to keep everyone in check. How can you accept an award if you were just playing along in a drill???? Now if any of these people come forward the "award" effectively shuts them down.
 Quoting: Dudeashaneo


Most ordinary people simply cannot believe our institutions would sink to this sickening, ugly level of debased humanity to pull off a staged op like this, but those responsible would have been carefully vetted through an intensive process. Programmable sociopaths. Anything is possible under the mantra of "the ends justify the means" -- there is no depth to human behavior under that premise. To understand the reasoning behind this, one must think like one of them, not like a reasonable compassionate human being. Only then can it begin to make sense.

I'm not even saying for sure it was a drill. I don't know. But could it be plausibly undertaken with the right "ingredients," rationale, and compromised players? Absolutely.
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I think even before one attempts to piece together the logistics of this thing, it would be important to ask: Why do it? One may say it's gun control related (I don't believe that was a primary objective), mental health screening for students (possibly), or others. Surely, there were a number of reasons. Perhaps others can cite additional motives.

My belief is that the massive investment and coordination of government agencies, law enforcement, medical professionals, possibly acting troupes, and private government subcontractors was/is part of the budget for a larger scheme, or "Operation ____" (think of the government intel ops throughout the '50's '60's -- I won't name them for obvious reasons). This is the "strategy of tension" -- intel's use of staged terrorism to manufacture consent or shape public opinion, with the added component of spreading fear, uneasiness, and a sense of helplessness among citizens. Fearful people are angry and emotionally pliable, weak, and easily diverted, which is the way they seem to like us.

I don't think the event had one specific motive, but was a key stop on the culture-molding process. It's aim was largely psychological. It's orchestrators must be devoid of human emotion, but efficient and willing to do what their superiors tell them without questioning.

SH was a major beta test to see if a staged event can be entered into history as objective reality. It remains to be seen if that goal has been fully reached.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74733357


Call me crazy, but this was the tipping point for me to start to believe there is another species amongst us. This other species looks like us, but they are not the same. They certainly don't have emotion or empathy.
 Quoting: Starbird


Heh. Well for the sake of this discussion let's just go with cold hearted people.

Although..think about the angst from someone that thought they were part of a drill. I think much of the confusion and in your face shaming is to insight fear that they stay in line.

I believe the "awards" that were handed out were a way to keep everyone in check. How can you accept an award if you were just playing along in a drill???? Now if any of these people come forward the "award" effectively shuts them down.
 Quoting: Dudeashaneo


Most ordinary people simply cannot believe our institutions would sink to this sickening, ugly level of debased humanity to pull off a staged op like this, but those responsible would have been carefully vetted through an intensive process. Programmable sociopaths. Anything is possible under the mantra of "the ends justify the means" -- there is no depth to human behavior under that premise. To understand the reasoning behind this, one must think like one of them, not like a reasonable compassionate human being. Only then can it begin to make sense.

I'm not even saying for sure it was a drill. I don't know. But could it be plausibly undertaken with the right "ingredients," rationale, and compromised players? Absolutely.
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Well vast sums of money certainly can get people to do things. Once they become entangled in the event the money will soothe their "second thoughts" for awhile... But you need to keep them productive...and behold they all start funds and little projects.
Is there a chance we could get some honesty up in here?
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Sandy Hook got every residence in Newtown paid off on Christina's Day, including some municipal property. Although Connecticut is divided into counties, there is no county government in Connecticut and local government consists of cities and towns.
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Sandy Hook got every residence in Newtown paid off on Christina's Day, including some municipal property. Although Connecticut is divided into counties, there is no county government in Connecticut and local government consists of cities and towns.
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Woah....what do you mean no county government? Explain that please.
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at the administrative assistant at the Assessorís Office for southbury combined with the info ms. deirdre -on vacation- provided regarding the next re-evaluation of the free sandy hook homes have missed the 2016 deadline to be re-auditedi for a muni fee in the 2017 scheduled. 2017 is 4 monthsin. we are waiting.
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Oh wait...now that makes sense.

Since the law enforcement consisted of local cops and state cops...but no county cops! Ohhhhhhh


That explains so much!


Can someone break down how the county is set up? How do they handle county issues that pertain to individual cities? What about courts? They have to have county courts or are they just state courts in different locations?
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to thicken the soup amr and ems response have a ping system where the first on the scene gets the call but in this case amr is private run and ems is state run. amr's services was not needed this day and no ping was even sent out for acknowledgement.
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What is amr?


This really is putting it all together. Great stuff.
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Ah...found it.

American Medical Response. So cities and states contract out emergency response in certain situations to this private company....got it. And they were never called?


Interesting.


I just need to understand your comment about how cities and towns are handled via country structure and state jurisdiction.
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So if all the dispatching is done specifically out of Newtown......
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to thicken the soup amr and ems response have a ping system where the first on the scene gets the call but in this case amr is private run and ems is state run. amr's services was not needed this day and no ping was even sent out for acknowledgement.
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Yet AMR responded...
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With this information it seems like it would be easier to control the information with Newtown being the dispatch. The State could run the operation through the city without other authorizations needed.

That solves all kinds of kinks whooo boy now it seems easy.

Now how do you feed the news cycle?
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Had to bump this. Got a lot of activity on the lies of sandy hook from zephyr on other posts today. So I figger I'll send some truth out into the interwebs!

BUMP!
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This needs another bump. The absurdity-addled SH threads are shillbombing again.
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All that discussion about frequency change for emergency response on that day seems to make sense.

Now you can keep the drill off the actual radar of other municipalities. Now nearby cities will not be responding to scanner banter but to call outs from Newtown Dispatch. Newtown was orchestrating everything.

That defiantly shows how you can control the days information flow.

Oh.....that's how all the 911 recordings and CSP 911 recordings all sound so clean and were able to be edited like they were. The raw data was all on the one channel and streamed to one place. No " hopping " is evident or delay from jumping servers.

Anybody IT people want to jump in?
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Yeah, I'm gonna bump this again for good measure!

A truth filled post on Shady Hoax is very rare these days!!

Goofy Thum
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I believe it was a ceated event. I think the school was operational but on a very small scale for special needs kids.
Not all teachers were "in the know". I think the file clerk B.H was key, as well as Principal,lead teacher and custodian.
A handfull of local LE, state and fed players perpared the scene.

File clerk set off a recording of shooting over the intercom. This was custodian's cue to make sure all classes were "locked down" meaning no one could see the LE who came in and shot out windows and staged the event. I do not think nurse and 1st grade teaher who hid entire class in bathroom were initially in on it, however I think they both witnessed the staging of the scene by accident. This is why the story of nurse hiding in closet for 4 hours was injected, they were programming her to go along. Also this is why 1st grade teacher was afraid to open door to LE. Did she take a pic with her phone???

I believe there was a tunnel in one of the 1st grade class rooms,and a handful of real children involved were evacuated that way.The rest of the kids were fabricated identities. The school was built in the 50s at the height of cold war scare, bomb shelters were common, also there already exists an extensive tunnel system af Fairfield hospital, perhaps the school connected to that. This is why they put up a fence around the tiny plot of land that remained after the school was demolished, so no one could see that entrance to the tunnel. Also reason for nondisclosure agreements.

Classrooms were then staged with wax dummies, which had been stored in Kitchen closet/bathroom the night before.
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I also think the The "shooter's" family was real and did exist at one point in time. Dad got a job at GE and the family moved to S.H. They were upwardly mobile and NL was a typical soccor mom participating in kids activities and arranging play dates etc. They enjoyed a yuppie lifestyle. NL was outgoing and somewhat of a snob by all accounts.
Then something happened, I speculate PL was involved in something at work, involving muni bonds scandal in which 3 GE employees were arrested and convicted. Was he dirty? did he testify against these three? Was organized crime involved? I speculate PL and family were put in witness protection in the late 1990s or early 2000's. The house was abandoned at that time. They had to leave behind all personal photos etc, but did take valuables such as expensive furniture, china, rugs etc. That is why the house has the air of being deserted and then furnished with thrift store finds and discount store dishes etc.

Their identities were then available for use for this event...
Perhaps his new "wife" is the handler/contact person for the family? They trotted our PL and RL for propaganda purposes but then they disappeared off the face of the planet.
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I also think the The "shooter's" family was real and did exist at one point in time. Dad got a job at GE and the family moved to S.H. They were upwardly mobile and NL was a typical soccor mom participating in kids activities and arranging play dates etc. They enjoyed a yuppie lifestyle. NL was outgoing and somewhat of a snob by all accounts.
Then something happened, I speculate PL was involved in something at work, involving muni bonds scandal in which 3 GE employees were arrested and convicted. Was he dirty? did he testify against these three? Was organized crime involved? I speculate PL and family were put in witness protection in the late 1990s or early 2000's. The house was abandoned at that time. They had to leave behind all personal photos etc, but did take valuables such as expensive furniture, china, rugs etc. That is why the house has the air of being deserted and then furnished with thrift store finds and discount store dishes etc.

Their identities were then available for use for this event...
Perhaps his new "wife" is the handler/contact person for the family? They trotted our PL and RL for propaganda purposes but then they disappeared off the face of the planet.
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This is getting close.....

And by the way it wasn't local "thrift store" furnishings. It was purchased online from China and in two orders in 2007 and 2012. This is the antiquated crap that filled their house. And by the way, the guy that rented his house out to Nicole Hockley, a Mr. Kenneth William Pheasey, he's the guy that bought the furnishings for the Lanza household!?!?!?!
WTH??????




My my my! Look at what links do work from that Alibaba post:

[link to imgur.com]

[link to imgur.com]

What affluent family orders this kinda shit?!
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I believe it was a ceated event. I think the school was operational but on a very small scale for special needs kids.
Not all teachers were "in the know". I think the file clerk B.H was key, as well as Principal,lead teacher and custodian.
A handfull of local LE, state and fed players perpared the scene.

File clerk set off a recording of shooting over the intercom. This was custodian's cue to make sure all classes were "locked down" meaning no one could see the LE who came in and shot out windows and staged the event. I do not think nurse and 1st grade teaher who hid entire class in bathroom were initially in on it, however I think they both witnessed the staging of the scene by accident. This is why the story of nurse hiding in closet for 4 hours was injected, they were programming her to go along. Also this is why 1st grade teacher was afraid to open door to LE. Did she take a pic with her phone???

I believe there was a tunnel in one of the 1st grade class rooms,and a handful of real children involved were evacuated that way.The rest of the kids were fabricated identities. The school was built in the 50s at the height of cold war scare, bomb shelters were common, also there already exists an extensive tunnel system af Fairfield hospital, perhaps the school connected to that. This is why they put up a fence around the tiny plot of land that remained after the school was demolished, so no one could see that entrance to the tunnel. Also reason for nondisclosure agreements.

Classrooms were then staged with wax dummies, which had been stored in Kitchen closet/bathroom the night before.
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That makes sense. Yes, a partially functional school for special needs. How else can a school with so many obvious violations be operating?!

Also I believe there was some information showing how some of these supposed casualties of children may have been "special needs" as well.
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I would think that it being a functional school would be a problem....unless by special needs you mean local?

I can however see it being a building that had been recently condemned for school activities although local may have had access to the building for maybe boy/girl scout meetings or other small items.


In this regard they could easily produce an event at a locations that many people are used to using. You start the drill with the participants all acting in concert and then change the narrative to real later.

Still working on the time of the switch.....

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I would think that it being a functional school would be a problem....unless by special needs you mean local?

I can however see it being a building that had been recently condemned for school activities although local may have had access to the building for maybe boy/girl scout meetings or other small items.


In this regard they could easily produce an event at a locations that many people are used to using. You start the drill with the participants all acting in concert and then change the narrative to real later.

Still working on the time of the switch.....
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I think the school was operational, but on a much smaller scale that 400-500 students. probably more like 50-60, most likely some sort of learning disabled kids based on how many specialty type therapy teachers and aids were there.

I have seen active schools that look like S.H. or worse. Many times, what happens is a new neighborhood develpos superimposed on an older infrastructure. It takes time to catch up, build new schools, roads etc. Meanwhile the folks buying the new McMansions are stuck using the outdated facilities until new ones can be built. This same exact thing happened to me when my son was in school. We lived in a similar brand new "executive" neighborhood and his school looked almost identical to the S.H. school, same age etc. Just because walls are discolored doesn't mean they have mold. I am speaking from personal experience, I could easily see the school being phased out but still in use...
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I think most people involved in the event including most teachers, students and parents believe it happened just the way it was represented. Think about this, if custodian makes sure teachers are locked inside classrooms with students and all they have to go on is the noise on the loudspeaker (cans falling) and the smell of smoke (smokebomb?) and then they are hurridly evacuated to the firehouse, how are they going to know anything beyond what they are told. Meanwhile they are unwitting participants making it all seem believable. Most of the "activity" was confined to a very small area of the school. As I mentioned I think the 1st grade teacher and the school nurse were never meant to be part of the story, that's why their stories seem so strange and convoluted. I think they both saw what they were not supposed to see- due to the close proximity to the active area. Remember day one, School nurse was full of explicit information about the perp (I think she told the truth to the reporter) and the very next day her story changed to only seeing his boots. So most likelt K teacher's son was involved in some way with staging the scene...

As for the participant families, there are really only a few "core" families who are highly visable and vocal. The rest are what I call periphery. In my opinion, the families are probably a mix of covert operatives, these are people who moved to the area within 6 months prior, and local families who may have had federal charges pending and were "incentivized" to participate using both the carrot and the stick- I believe they were monetarily rewarded and pending charges dropped against them or loved ones. Some of these families may have been assigned fictional children. The core families are the same folks that are now "employed" to continue the narrative by giving book tours, guest lectures and even lawsuits(which I believe will never go to court).
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I guess to control the event it would be easier to have a type of extra incentive ( criminal prosecution ) to keep certain participants in check.

So..... a small school barley operational. ....the janitor locking doors to keep visuals at a minimum.


Hmmmm makes sense. Although I dont know how you bring in the extra townies needed....well I suppose if you "page" them with a cell ping of an emergency.
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