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Sandy Hook : Urban Legend Crowd Source

 
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I don't think that actually happened. I did not see anything that showed any choppers that day. I think Vance said that to provide cover for lack of arial presence.
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Breaking: Chopper Identified

Thread: BREAKING!!! - The "SANDY HOOK CHOPPER" identity "DISCOVERED"
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I appreciate and remember this thread. I still don't think we have any tangible evidence it was there.

My point is....if news 3 got footage that means they were in the airspace that Chopper One was suppose to keep clear....get that I mean?


Interesting story by the way.

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Then what do you believe the "helicopter footage" that we are seeing was?
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From a drone. There would be no need for the chopper. Maybe it was there but it makes no sense.

According to Vance state police chopper kept others out of the air space. I have never heard of someone using a chopper to keep other aircraft out of an area.

Regardless...the reason is that I maintain it was drone footage is to keep as much control over the visuals as possible.

If they truly wanted to keep other aircraft from the area news 12 would not have been within distance to take the footage.

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The link above shows an armored vehicle in front of saint Rosa of Lima school
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Heh...the urban assault vehicle!
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The link above shows an armored vehicle in front of saint Rosa of Lima school
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Yup.

So it seems they staged the state police there. That makes sense.
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St. Rose is a mystery in of itself within the Sandy Hook tableau.

Here you have two drills associated with that school, very close by to Sandy Hook.

The second drill/response was to a fake phone call threat requiring a lock down. I assume that's where you got your picture of that mean looking machine.

The first drill held there was very close if not the same morning as Sandy Hook if I'm not mistaken. (That's where they got the inserted footage of rushing responders.) I can't seem to find any write-ups on it except some photos which were taken from an Eric Langolis who was a photographer that died semi-mysteriously shorty after.

One picture as part of his small series, has a slice left over from where you can tell another photo was. (A couple clicks down his page.)

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At any rate, ALL the Big Boy, FEMA/FBI/Homeland Security reps., along with their toys were represented in that time period and in that little area.
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Oh and just as a side note not related to the facts we're discussing here, is on the front of St. Rose is a Christmas wreath.

"Christmas."

THE Holiday of children and adults alike, celebrated and decorated ALL over the country except, poor, poor Sandy Hook.
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What the hell?



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St. Rose is a mystery in of itself within the Sandy Hook tableau.

Here you have two drills associated with that school, very close by to Sandy Hook.

The second drill/response was to a fake phone call threat requiring a lock down. I assume that's where you got your picture of that mean looking machine.

The first drill held there was very close if not the same morning as Sandy Hook if I'm not mistaken. (That's where they got the inserted footage of rushing responders.) I can't seem to find any write-ups on it except some photos which were taken from an Eric Langolis who was a photographer that died semi-mysteriously shorty after.

One picture as part of his small series, has a slice left over from where you can tell another photo was. (A couple clicks down his page.)

[link to www.instagram.com (secure)]

At any rate, ALL the Big Boy, FEMA/FBI/Homeland Security reps., along with their toys were represented in that time period and in that little area.
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It was a multi-situation drill involving several hypothetical threats in several different locations.

The President was probably a participant which explains the extreme measures taken to block information relating to the excercise.
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Eric Langlois MISSING

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Eric Langlois FOUND

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Eric Langlois MISSING

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Eric Langlois FOUND

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So he knew too much about the drill at both schools
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Saint Rosa of Lima

I had never seen more cops in my life she said.

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The second drill/response was to a fake phone call threat requiring a lock down. I assume that's where you got your picture of that mean looking machine.


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Negative. It was for a person inside the school threatening to harm himself.
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I assume that's where you got your picture of that mean looking machine.


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Nope. december 16 for a threat of shooting during St. Rose church service. Media lied and said it was a bomb threat. Or they were told to lie so that people wouldn't think escaped Sandy Hook shooters were still on the loose 48 hours later. Not long after ST Rose church evac someone with a "machine gun pistol" was reported running from an abandoned red Subaru on a highway leading out of Newtown.
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you fellas aren't going to get much traction criticising media for wrong reporting on Saint Rose of Lima if you're bolloxing it up yourselves.
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Nothing illegal happened at SH.

Propagandizing the American people has been legal since 2013.

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In the analysis of how they would initiate this drill/ Urban Legend I suppose if they send out a emergency alert to lock all schools down it would be easier to stage and explain police at a different location.

In the grand scheme of things it is just misdirection that I have not really focused on for this thread since I am more interested in how you pull something like this off.
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Wasn't there an event at St. Rose before Sandy Hook? Like the day before if I remember right. That's where the media mixed in the video with the officers storming the school....but it was an "evening" shot, not a morning shot. And it was shown on the day of the Shady Hoax drill.
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I was under the impression that Sandy Hook was essentially a spook town. A set. People were set up there for a few years, essentially rehearsing for opening night. If everyone involved is an actor, it's easy to contain. With advancements in technology, the crowds could have been cgi for all we know.
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Lol so many old memes coming out. It's a good sign.

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I will say that Zeph did great work in helping identify how they would pull this off.

Her work on the 911 calls and finding all the problems with the story line and " official script/report" helped to show that is was just a staged event.

It is interesting how Gene Rosen is cast. I suppose his proximity to the action made sense to include him.

But what if he is just an innocent dude just trying to capitalize on the event. Meaning he saw something going on...wanted to be a local that is " in the know " and created a story for himself that he could get a little fame?

So when he finds out about the story at the firehouse he decides that he is going to say he saw something too! He wants to be on camera! He wants his 15 minutes! Who is going question a little story about kids that he helped....but has no proof other than a pile of stuffed animals.

Heh. Gosh that would be so funny...cause now the event planners have to somehow write Gene into the event.

Gotta admit that could happen.
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Lol, I made my post before I read yours...We are on the same page!
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Heh!

Everything is becoming pretty obvious.
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That's the thing about creepy Gene. I cna't tell if he was an actor or if he just improv'ed his way into the action. One thing is for certain: He's completely full of shit.
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I will say that Zeph did great work in helping identify how they would pull this off.

Her work on the 911 calls and finding all the problems with the story line and " official script/report" helped to show that is was just a staged event.

It is interesting how Gene Rosen is cast. I suppose his proximity to the action made sense to include him.

But what if he is just an innocent dude just trying to capitalize on the event. Meaning he saw something going on...wanted to be a local that is " in the know " and created a story for himself that he could get a little fame?

So when he finds out about the story at the firehouse he decides that he is going to say he saw something too! He wants to be on camera! He wants his 15 minutes! Who is going question a little story about kids that he helped....but has no proof other than a pile of stuffed animals.

Heh. Gosh that would be so funny...cause now the event planners have to somehow write Gene into the event.

Gotta admit that could happen.
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Lol, I made my post before I read yours...We are on the same page!
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Heh!

Everything is becoming pretty obvious.
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That's the thing about creepy Gene. I cna't tell if he was an actor or if he just improv'ed his way into the action. One thing is for certain: He's completely full of shit.
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Agreed. It had to be so infuriating that Mean Gene forced them to write in his silly story. I can see TPTB..." who is this guy? What is he doing? Gah! A F**ing bus driver speaking harshly to kids they left in his driveway? Who would believe that??? Alright lets get to work and fix it...Well I suppose there is always one we have to worry about" then they had to parlay his little play and validate it somehow.

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Agreed. It had to be so infuriating that Mean Gene forced them to write in his silly story. I can see TPTB..." who is this guy? What is he doing? Gah! A F**ing bus driver speaking harshly to kids they left in his driveway? Who would believe that??? Alright lets get to work and fix it...Well I suppose there is always one we have to worry about" then they had to parlay his little play and validate it somehow.
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So true! They were already juggling so many variables with a mother who did or didn't work at the school, a shooter that is or isn't the person on his id, a guy in camo running around in the wooded areas, etc. And then creepy Gene starts telling stories about an irresponsible and belligerent bus driver that just dumps 5 or 6 kids off at some creepy old man's house to play tea party with stuffed animals lmao.

There are certain details that make me think Gene could be part of this though. The artwork in his home was very Masonic. That could be a coincidence, but it's creepy shit like that that keeps me on the fence about him. It's been awhile since I've looked at the footage, but I think I remember him walking in circles around the school also with the big crowd. Maybe I just made that up, I'll try to see if I can find what I'm talking about.
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Agreed. It had to be so infuriating that Mean Gene forced them to write in his silly story. I can see TPTB..." who is this guy? What is he doing? Gah! A F**ing bus driver speaking harshly to kids they left in his driveway? Who would believe that??? Alright lets get to work and fix it...Well I suppose there is always one we have to worry about" then they had to parlay his little play and validate it somehow.
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So true! They were already juggling so many variables with a mother who did or didn't work at the school, a shooter that is or isn't the person on his id, a guy in camo running around in the wooded areas, etc. And then creepy Gene starts telling stories about an irresponsible and belligerent bus driver that just dumps 5 or 6 kids off at some creepy old man's house to play tea party with stuffed animals lmao.

There are certain details that make me think Gene could be part of this though. The artwork in his home was very Masonic. That could be a coincidence, but it's creepy shit like that that keeps me on the fence about him. It's been awhile since I've looked at the footage, but I think I remember him walking in circles around the school also with the big crowd. Maybe I just made that up, I'll try to see if I can find what I'm talking about.
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Imagine the bus company cringing..." one of our drivers dropped off 6 and 7 year olds in some dudes driveway and left?...oh we are gonna be sued now"
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Agreed. It had to be so infuriating that Mean Gene forced them to write in his silly story. I can see TPTB..." who is this guy? What is he doing? Gah! A F**ing bus driver speaking harshly to kids they left in his driveway? Who would believe that??? Alright lets get to work and fix it...Well I suppose there is always one we have to worry about" then they had to parlay his little play and validate it somehow.
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So true! They were already juggling so many variables with a mother who did or didn't work at the school, a shooter that is or isn't the person on his id, a guy in camo running around in the wooded areas, etc. And then creepy Gene starts telling stories about an irresponsible and belligerent bus driver that just dumps 5 or 6 kids off at some creepy old man's house to play tea party with stuffed animals lmao.

There are certain details that make me think Gene could be part of this though. The artwork in his home was very Masonic. That could be a coincidence, but it's creepy shit like that that keeps me on the fence about him. It's been awhile since I've looked at the footage, but I think I remember him walking in circles around the school also with the big crowd. Maybe I just made that up, I'll try to see if I can find what I'm talking about.
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Imagine the bus company cringing..." one of our drivers dropped off 6 and 7 year olds in some dudes driveway and left?...oh we are gonna be sued now"
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And still NO LAWSUITS!! from anyone......crickets
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I was under the impression that Sandy Hook was essentially a spook town. A set. People were set up there for a few years, essentially rehearsing for opening night. If everyone involved is an actor, it's easy to contain. With advancements in technology, the crowds could have been cgi for all we know.
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My feelings as well. I suspect everyone that lives in the vicinity of Sandy Hook have a "reason" to live there. Funny how all these years we get "locals" that pipe up from time to time on these threads and none of them can confirm if Sandy Hook Elementary was an operating school or not?! Most of these "locals" from what I remember were usually from a neighboring town or further out in Newtown and not too familiar with Sandy Hook activities in particular, etc. Pretty weird.....
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Agreed. It had to be so infuriating that Mean Gene forced them to write in his silly story. I can see TPTB..." who is this guy? What is he doing? Gah! A F**ing bus driver speaking harshly to kids they left in his driveway? Who would believe that??? Alright lets get to work and fix it...Well I suppose there is always one we have to worry about" then they had to parlay his little play and validate it somehow.
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So true! They were already juggling so many variables with a mother who did or didn't work at the school, a shooter that is or isn't the person on his id, a guy in camo running around in the wooded areas, etc. And then creepy Gene starts telling stories about an irresponsible and belligerent bus driver that just dumps 5 or 6 kids off at some creepy old man's house to play tea party with stuffed animals lmao.

There are certain details that make me think Gene could be part of this though. The artwork in his home was very Masonic. That could be a coincidence, but it's creepy shit like that that keeps me on the fence about him. It's been awhile since I've looked at the footage, but I think I remember him walking in circles around the school also with the big crowd. Maybe I just made that up, I'll try to see if I can find what I'm talking about.
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Imagine the bus company cringing..." one of our drivers dropped off 6 and 7 year olds in some dudes driveway and left?...oh we are gonna be sued now"
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And still NO LAWSUITS!! from anyone......crickets
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Well true.

But think of the stink he caused.

TPTB can't say he is some crazy dude that just pulled this story out of his ass for attention because they are not able to tell anyone any real facts because that screws up the Urban Legend.

Maybe Vance was talking about Mean Gene as an example of people making shit up and to knock it off....

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I'm more apt to believe that Eugene had a "bigger" role in this production. He practiced his lines most of the morning at the firehouse when everyone was doing the conga line in and out, and every time he was interviewed he changed up his story, how many times?! And he had multiple interviews! and in Spanish as well! This was the MSM's showcase guy! I just don't think the producers realized what a sinister portrayal he would really be.....

He came across as a lying pervie pedo rather than a gentle sweet grandpa figure. Bad move on their part! LOL
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Saint Rosa of Lima

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Interesting article.


"Yesterday, Waters sat in front of her television a couple miles rom where the shooting occurred, watching the breaking news coverage of a shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown that left 26 people dead, including 20 children, hoping and praying that none of the fatalities were kids that she teaches or siblings of young softball players that the Brakettes have worked with. She said she did not know the shooter's mother, who was a teacher at the school."
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