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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73879447 Canada 04/23/2017 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its interesting, I don't believe in god, but its highly likely that someone existed, named Jesus who challenged the powers that be and was mocked and put to death. everything that I have studied pretty much talks about reincarnation. Be it as the self / soul or just the energy moving on without any remembering of your past life. honestly I would have to say no though, I think these are just parables symbolizing things. Not because I don't think it can happen, but because I cant go around saying "i believe I believe" if I really don't believe. |
wisconsin User ID: 74529667 United States 04/23/2017 10:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . ... OP ... just wondering why you care and why is this important to you? ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
G.J Baggio User ID: 73216574 Canada 04/23/2017 10:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said to Thomas, "You believe because you've seen me. Blessed are those who haven't seen me but believe." John 20:29 It's about faith. Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before a fall. Better to be of a humble spirit with the lowly, Than to divide the spoil with the proud. Proverbs 16:18-19 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Matthew 24:35 |
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G.J Baggio User ID: 73216574 Canada 04/23/2017 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said to Thomas, "You believe because you've seen me. Blessed are those who haven't seen me but believe." John 20:29 Quoting: G.J Baggio It's about faith. yes I understand, but I still cant go around saying "i believe I believe" if I really dont Satan blinds the world, like life came to existence by chance, E.g evolution. Pride goes before destruction, And a haughty spirit before a fall. Better to be of a humble spirit with the lowly, Than to divide the spoil with the proud. Proverbs 16:18-19 Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Matthew 24:35 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73879447 Canada 04/23/2017 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus said to Thomas, "You believe because you've seen me. Blessed are those who haven't seen me but believe." John 20:29 Quoting: G.J Baggio It's about faith. yes I understand, but I still cant go around saying "i believe I believe" if I really dont Satan blinds the world, like life came to existence by chance, E.g evolution. the world is but a giant petri dish |
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Leeda (OP) User ID: 22707396 New Zealand 04/24/2017 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one posted right away so I went away and gave it some time. Only just remembered just now. Also my other thread that I keep bumping no one ever posts. I thought this could be the case. That's why I gave it some time. It's not just important to me it's important to everyone. Church buildings on every corner are evidence that something happened. I believed blindly up until I suffered on the line for 10 years. My flesh has been crucified. I've never heard Gods voice. God has always interested me. I've dedicated the last 20 years daily to learning about and thinking about God. He is all I can think about to answer things. Can you have faith in the midst of all out suffering? It sure is a test for anyone. I'm still looking for answers. I know something you don't know. I'm looking for help. This is where I have ended up. Faith should produce works. These should be visible to the world. The mystery of God intrigues me. I don't know why. I Love Love. What is love? You can have all the faith to move mountains but if you have not love you are nothing. Love is the highest power. But you can't please God without faith. So perhaps you need the two things. Hope they say also. Like a trinity Love Hope Faith. The truth is needed It's got to be more than faith alone. Now we could ask is Love real? I think I love Jesus. I'd be completely bummed to find out he is a lie. I can't maintain a feeling of joy or happiness though. I'm more of a mourner. Where is the display of the Spirits Power from believers in converting others. Post your Power here. Leedas Last Edited by Leeda on 04/24/2017 12:24 AM |
Critical thinker User ID: 74750458 Germany 04/24/2017 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hard to tell if the Lord says to man: From dust you came and to dust you shall return. AND NO: Pictures in the sky doesn't give a shit about truth. It can be done with technology and what not. AND: The WHOLE world gets deceived BUT not the elect (if it were possible.) I know - I am not one of the elect... Yes - the Lord can do that with his power but I refuse to believe that a man is equal to the Lord or that a human sacrifice is necessary for the forgiveness of "sins". Because telling it is better instead of letting the blood flow out of the body - that makes him almost equal to Moloch or a Satan. That I don't like AT ALL! |
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Anemone Reef AK User ID: 74412266 United States 04/24/2017 02:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to youtu.be (secure)] [link to www.thequotepedia.com] Last Edited by Anemone Reef AK on 04/24/2017 02:14 AM -The Armor of God- "Be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against rulers, against authorities, against the power of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms..." Ephesians 6:10-12 "I will not cause pain without allowing something new to be born saith The Lord..." Isaiah 66:9 "Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers a multitude of sins..." 1 Peter 4:8 ...Love conquereth all....... <3 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74751445 United Kingdom 04/24/2017 03:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | its interesting, I don't believe in god, but its highly likely that someone existed, named Jesus who challenged the powers that be and was mocked and put to death. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73879447 everything that I have studied pretty much talks about reincarnation. Be it as the self / soul or just the energy moving on without any remembering of your past life. honestly I would have to say no though, I think these are just parables symbolizing things. Not because I don't think it can happen, but because I cant go around saying "i believe I believe" if I really don't believe. "Who challenged the powers that be"? what challenge is it really when he who was in Jesus is greater than he who is in the world? |
wisconsin User ID: 74529667 United States 04/24/2017 05:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . ... OP ... what have you learned about the interaction between The Creator, satan, and humans? ... . ... that in a way is the start of the understanding of the purpose the life, death, resurrection of Yeshua ... to humans ... . . Our family celebrates The Lord's Feasts: [link to www.grafted-promise.net] Fools and the dead don't change their minds. Fools won't and the dead can't. When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar. You are only telling the world that you fear what he might say. Quoting: CountryWise Amos 5:13 - Therefore at such a time the prudent person keeps silent, for it is an evil time. |
Leeda (OP) User ID: 22707396 New Zealand 04/25/2017 12:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont think anyone on earth can say whether Jesus was resurrected or not. Most people use the word BELIEVE. That's not good enough for me. It would be nice to believe without seeing. But there's no where to go from there. SOMEONE DEMONSTRATE SOME POWER. |
Anemone Reef AK User ID: 74625380 United States 04/25/2017 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dont think anyone on earth can say whether Jesus was resurrected or not. Quoting: Leeda Most people use the word BELIEVE. That's not good enough for me. It would be nice to believe without seeing. But there's no where to go from there. SOMEONE DEMONSTRATE SOME POWER. ...the power comes through humility and pure trust...to become a vessel and conduit, for our Father's Love... [link to youtu.be (secure)] -The Armor of God- "Be strong in the Lord and in his mighty power. Put on the full armor of God, so that you can take your stand against the devil's schemes. For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against rulers, against authorities, against the power of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms..." Ephesians 6:10-12 "I will not cause pain without allowing something new to be born saith The Lord..." Isaiah 66:9 "Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers a multitude of sins..." 1 Peter 4:8 ...Love conquereth all....... <3 |
a Dude, not THE Dude User ID: 43050810 United States 04/25/2017 02:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No one posted right away so I went away and gave it some time. Only just remembered just now. Also my other thread that I keep bumping no one ever posts. I thought this could be the case. That's why I gave it some time. Quoting: Leeda It's not just important to me it's important to everyone. Church buildings on every corner are evidence that something happened. I believed blindly up until I suffered on the line for 10 years. My flesh has been crucified. I've never heard Gods voice. God has always interested me. I've dedicated the last 20 years daily to learning about and thinking about God. He is all I can think about to answer things. Can you have faith in the midst of all out suffering? It sure is a test for anyone. I'm still looking for answers. I know something you don't know. I'm looking for help. This is where I have ended up. Faith should produce works. These should be visible to the world. The mystery of God intrigues me. I don't know why. I Love Love. What is love? You can have all the faith to move mountains but if you have not love you are nothing. Love is the highest power. But you can't please God without faith. So perhaps you need the two things. Hope they say also. Like a trinity Love Hope Faith. The truth is needed It's got to be more than faith alone. Now we could ask is Love real? I think I love Jesus. I'd be completely bummed to find out he is a lie. I can't maintain a feeling of joy or happiness though. I'm more of a mourner. Where is the display of the Spirits Power from believers in converting others. Post your Power here. Leedas I wish that I could help you. I don't think that what you seek will be found here. You should probably talk to someone far more knowledgeable about him and the Bible than I. I can only tell you that I believe fervently in Christ as our savior. He died for our sins and was resurrected. Too many times I was at rock bottom emotionally and felt such an awe-inspiring presence filling me with love when I prayed and needed it most. Other times, I've prayed and not felt it. Those times weren't rock bottom ones. There are several incidents in my life that should have flat out killed me...no questions asked. I should have died....but I was saved, often times barely injured or not injured at all due to different things. What I can tell you is that he loves you. He wants you asking questions and seeking him. He stated that our faith should be like that of a child. Did he mean that we should be inquisitive about it as some young children are, seeking to learn the truth, or did he mean to accept him as a given, as some young children do? I think that he meant both. Accept it as a given, but always strive to understand it. Seek it. I can perform no miracles for you. My faith is not strong enough. It is something that I constantly work on, however...not to be able to do things, but to be closer to him. Pray to him for understanding, then read (or re-read) the words attributed to him. (Often red letters in many versions of the Bible). I truly believe you will start to feel the truth to his words. Pray for a closer relationship to him and for him to help you with your faith. Accept him into your heart as the savior. You don't have to be eloquent in your prayer. You don't have to be verbose. Jesus himself stated to keep it short as God knows what you want and need. Speak to him from your heart. Ask him for guidance. I shall pray for you and hope you find him. I shall try to help in whatever way I can, however small that is. May his light shine on you and reveal to you his wonders. |
SevenThunders User ID: 73224823 United States 04/25/2017 02:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interestingly this was the topic of the recently released film, "The Case for Christ". The main arguments for it are. 1) Over 500 witnesses saw Jesus alive after his crucifixion. 2) The Biblical testimony is accurate based on textual criticism, comparing over 5000 ancient manuscripts, and based on historical and archaeological evidence. 3) Jesus actually died on the cross, unlike Islam's false claims because when he was pierced by the Roman soldier, "water and blood" poured out. This is a lung condition caused by asphyxiation, which is how most die when crucified. 4) Roman soldiers guarded the tomb and faced death if they failed in their mission, making stealing the body unlikely. 5) The founders of Christianity all died for their belief in the resurrection, with the exception of the apostle John, who was dipped in boiling oil but survived. You could also talk about the many miracles observed during Jesus' ministry including the raising of the dead. One of those resurrections was investigated by the Roman emperor. With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74758905 United States 04/25/2017 02:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus showed his face to me in a towel hanging in my bathroom when I was going through really rough times . I believe he is alive . I wish I heard voices that could guide me but it's really just my convictions in my soul given to me by God that directs me. I pray so hard for understanding and to know Gods will for me in my life . I create art and write and I have thoughts of how I could impact humanity given the right tools . But sometimes I wonder if it's worth it. Does humanity really want to change and grow ? I wonder sometimes. Leeda I like your idea about defeating death but Jesus already did this and if we stay faithful he will deliver us and grant us eternal life after this world full of suffering . Jesus said to be of good cheer because he overcame . With that being said I still pray one day life on this planet is void of death or violence . |
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hankie Everything User ID: 71719409 United States 04/25/2017 03:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus has the key he is the key to live and death, heaven and hell. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74763732 France 04/25/2017 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus : Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe." Thomas : "My Lord and my God!" Jesus : "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." Paul : And if The Messiah is not risen, our preaching is worthless and your faith is also worthless. "Don't be afraid of those who want to kill your body; they cannot touch your soul. Fear only God, who can destroy both soul and body in hell. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear the One who, after you have been killed, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear Him! NDE |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71051067 United States 04/25/2017 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. It was a mythical story, first told by previous religions. It came about as a metaphorical story about the Sun ("son") hitting it's low point in the sky on December 22nd each year, staying there for 3 days, and then "rising" on December 25th each year, as the Sun makes its way from the Tropic of Capricorn in Winter to the Tropic of Cancer in Summer. On December 25th, the Sun rises at a point where the 3 stars of Orion's Belt ("the 3 kings," or "3 wise men") line up with the brightest star in the sky, Sirius ("the star in the East"). It is all borrowed from early, primarive astronomy discoveries. |
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