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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74780567 ![]() 04/28/2017 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no salvation outside of Jesus Christ. There is the truth your "church" leaders lie to you about And you believe them instead. A classic lie which is told to you is that the Carholic church is "the faith". How tragic that you accept that as your truth instead of the reality - that our faith is actually the faithfulness of Jesus apportioned to us. The thought that you would substitute a lie for that amazing truth demonstrates to everyone the enormous hold that "church" men have over your heart and mind. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68851623 ![]() 04/28/2017 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] The word catholic literally means "universal," as in "the universal church." It originally was applied to all Christians because we are all part of the universal church in the way that we are all members of the Body of Christ. The Latin word is catholicus, and in Greek it is katholikos, from the Greek phrase meaning "on the whole, according to the whole or in general." The word in English can mean "including a wide variety of things; all-embracing," or "of the Roman Catholic faith," or "relating to the historic doctrine and practice of the Western Church.” Jesus Christ said: "And how be it my church save it be called in my name? For if a church be called in Moses name then it be Moses church; or if it be called in the name of a man then it be the church of a man; but if it be called in my name then it is my church, if it so be that they are built upon my gospel." Acts 4:10-12; Ephesians 1:22-23; 5:23-24; Colossians 1:18; 1 Corinthians 12:12-27; John 10:1-15; Romans 1:16-20; Isaiah 43:6-7 Recommended Resource: Reasoning from the Scriptures with Catholics by Ron Rhodes Last Edited by Account Deleted by User on 04/28/2017 01:07 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68851623 ![]() 04/28/2017 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to biblelight.net] The Catholic Priest "The third great power of the priestly office is the climax of all. It is the power of consecrating. 'No act is greater' says St. Thomas, than the consecration of the body of Christ. In this essential phrase of the sacred ministry, the power of the priest is not surpassed by that of a bishop, the archbishop, the Cardinal or the Pope. Indeed it is equal to that of Jesus Christ, for in this role the priest speaks with the voice and authority of God himself. "When the priest pronounces the tremendous words of the consecration he reaches up into the heavens, brings Christ down from His throne, and places Him upon our altar to be offered up again as the victim for the sins of men. It is a power greater than that of monarches and emperors and angels, greater THAN THAT OF SERAPHIM AND CHERUBIM. Indeed it is greater even than the power of the Virgin Mary. FOR WHILE the blessed virgin was the human agency by which Christ became incarnate a single time, the priest brings Christ down from heaven, and renders Him present on our altar as the eternal Victim for the sins of men not once, but a thousand times. The priest speaks and lo! Christ the eternal and omnipotent God, bows His head in humble obedience to the Priest's command." Quoted from FAITH OF MILLIONS --- Page 270; also found in pamphlet, PRIESTHOOD. Such a thing as this was prophesied in 2 Thessalonians 2:3-4. ONE COMPLETE SACRIFICE WAS ALL THAT WAS REQUIRED. "Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this He did once when He offered up Himself." Hebrews 7:24-28; 10:12-18 Last Edited by Account Deleted by User on 04/28/2017 01:05 PM |
DFM8608 User ID: 63883648 ![]() 04/28/2017 11:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You should read Paul's epistle to the Galations and Ephesians. It comes down to what is the gospel being preached. The present day Roman Catholic churh (RCC) emphatically does NOT preach the gospel as given to the gentiles via the apostle Paul's 13 epistles. As such, the RCC preaches a very false gospel. I could go on and on, but will leave it there. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68851623 ![]() 04/28/2017 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are wrong. At the time of the early church fathers, any use of 'catholic' was merely an acknowledgement of the fact that our Lord presided over His universal assembly of believers in whom would reside the Holy Spirit. Quoting: DFM8608 You should read Paul's epistle to the Galations and Ephesians. It comes down to what is the gospel being preached. The present day Roman Catholic churh (RCC) emphatically does NOT preach the gospel as given to the gentiles via the apostle Paul's 13 epistles. As such, the RCC preaches a very false gospel. I could go on and on, but will leave it there. Not sure whom you are stating is wrong, OP or post above your statement?! To be clear, I am stating things that show the fallibility of the Catholic Church and it's historical stance and statements. Another thing to consider: WHAT OF ST. JOHN? "Observe these details: It is claimed that St. Peter suffered martyrdom at Rome in 67 A.D.; St. Linus is said to have succeeded him the same year; Cletus succeeded St. Linus 78 A.D.; and St. Clement became bishop of Rome in 90 A.D. "Observe now: St John, the apostle 'whom Jesus loved,' and who evidently participated in such primacy as St. Peter may have held, as implied by his association in the special ways and privileges with Peter and James, during the lifetime of the Lord; and who because of his fiery zeal in his youth in preaching the message of Christ, was called by the Master a "Son of Thunder', this man is said to have DIED at Ephesus in 96 A.D. (Catholic authority) six years after the appointment of the last of these several alleged bishops of Rome. So that he (John) lived 19 years after the martyrdom of St. Peter, and 6 years after the appointment of of Clement. Where does he (John) stand in the church of God during all that time according to the Roman Catholic theory? Oh, he is under the jurisdiction, and in subordination to bishops St. Linus, St. Cletus, and St. Clements of Rome. With whom he (John, an apostle of Christ's) must be in union, and in subjection to, in order to be in the fold of Christ! (For the need of all church authorities--all officers and lay members being in subjection to the bishop of Rome see Catholic Belief, Bruno, ch. xxii). All this must be held to have been the situation if these bishops of Rome succeeded to, and held all the primacy and authority of St. Peter. The relationship of St. John to these Roman bishops must have been the same as it would have been to St. Peter, had St. Peter continued to live: for, according to the Roman Catholic theory, each of these bishops was the supreme head of the church, possessing all the primacy St. Peter held over his fellow apostles, and all that is conceivable to attach to the apostleship of St. Peter. I will not say that such a conclusion is ridiculous, but will saythat such a conclusion is unthinkable, and impossible. It was a siituation that was never obtained |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68851623 ![]() 04/28/2017 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But there is something more to present; and something even more conclusive. Surely with St. John living, and though perhaps the last of the apostles, it may not be denied that his time--near the close of the first century--was still within the period of revelation from God. This even according to the beliefs of the Roman Catholic, the Greek, and the Protestant churches. And now, in view of the fact that we are within the period of revelation, if revelation is to be given to the church, or to any of its branches, through whom will the revelation come? Unquestionably the revelations will come through the head of the church, who at the time, according to Roman Catholic claims, was Linus, or Cletus, or Clement, bishops of Rome, supreme heads of of the church universal! BUT DID IT? Ah no; the revelation came through the apostle who was associated evidently in the primacy of the triumvirate of the apostles, St Peter, St. James, and St John. It came through the apostle 'whom Jesus loved,' the 'Son of Thunder.' It came to him upon the lonely rock of Patmos when there a prisoner of a Roman emperor, 'for the word of God and the testimony of Jesus.' And the revelation which came is one of the noblest of the whole scripture. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74782436 ![]() 04/28/2017 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no salvation outside of Jesus Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74780567 There is the truth your "church" leaders lie to you about And you believe them instead. A classic lie which is told to you is that the Carholic church is "the faith". How tragic that you accept that as your truth instead of the reality - that our faith is actually the faithfulness of Jesus apportioned to us. The thought that you would substitute a lie for that amazing truth demonstrates to everyone the enormous hold that "church" men have over your heart and mind. The catholic church protects the faith from error and administers the sacraments. It helps us get to heaven! |
GLP Effect User ID: 28533111 ![]() 04/28/2017 12:56 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are wrong. At the time of the early church fathers, any use of 'catholic' was merely an acknowledgement of the fact that our Lord presided over His universal assembly of believers in whom would reside the Holy Spirit. Quoting: DFM8608 You should read Paul's epistle to the Galations and Ephesians. It comes down to what is the gospel being preached. The present day Roman Catholic churh (RCC) emphatically does NOT preach the gospel as given to the gentiles via the apostle Paul's 13 epistles. As such, the RCC preaches a very false gospel. I could go on and on, but will leave it there. OP is right. The line of popes traces itself back to St. Peter. No other church does this. [link to www.newadvent.org] Pray this prayer to blind Satan: [link to flameoflove.us (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 68851623 ![]() 04/28/2017 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are wrong. At the time of the early church fathers, any use of 'catholic' was merely an acknowledgement of the fact that our Lord presided over His universal assembly of believers in whom would reside the Holy Spirit. Quoting: DFM8608 You should read Paul's epistle to the Galations and Ephesians. It comes down to what is the gospel being preached. The present day Roman Catholic churh (RCC) emphatically does NOT preach the gospel as given to the gentiles via the apostle Paul's 13 epistles. As such, the RCC preaches a very false gospel. I could go on and on, but will leave it there. OP is right. The line of popes traces itself back to St. Peter. No other church does this. [link to www.newadvent.org] Did you completely fail to read the history I posted in 3 separate posts? Given the Catholic history (from their own writtings) it would be not only ridiculous to believe it is Christ's Church, but impossible. The Apostle John was still living while St Linus, St. Cletus, and St Clements were given the position and power to be the only ones during that time to receive "revelation" from God --- Yet John wrote the book of Revelation while on the Isle of Patmos. It is utter lunacy to believe in the Catholic church's claim to authority. |
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hankie Everything User ID: 71719409 ![]() 04/28/2017 01:12 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If You read anything Jesus said, you would know they are not that Church. The Roman Catholic Church after Constantine who was a pagan and stayed a pagan, almost the same rituals the regular catholic used but they had some difference, they were to the Sun God, and Constantine was the earth son of the Sun god. He was reborn every year. They killed the ones who would not follow the changes, except for the ones who escaped and they tried to follow them and wipe them out. Pope is the ruler just as Constantine was called Pope. True Church had elders not popes and group churches, not palaces. No Idols, no Gold, nothing fancy in dress different than anyone else, as Jesus taught no different in the man in fine clothes than the one in rags. Do not put them in high place in the Church as if they were more than other believers. I still wondering why they wear hats like the fish god. Sorry I got a headache These are the times that tries men's and women's souls! May we come though it victorious! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13222376 ![]() 04/28/2017 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.ewtn.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65531106 As mentioned in the Acts of the Apostles, it is true that the followers of Christ early became known as "Christians" (Acts 11:26). The name Christian, however, was never commonly applied to the Church herself. In the New Testament itself, the Church is simply called "the Church." There was only one. In that early time there were not yet any break-away bodies substantial enough to be rival claimants of the name and from which the Church might ever have to distinguish herself. Very early in post-apostolic times, however. the Church did acquire a proper name - and precisely in order to distinguish herself from rival bodies which by then were already beginning to form. The name that the Church acquired when it became necessary for her to have a proper name was the name by which she has been known ever since - the Catholic Church. The name appears in Christian literature for the first time around the end of the first century. By the time it was written down, it had certainly already been in use, for the indications are that everybody understood exactly what was meant by the name when it was written. Around the year A.D. 107, a bishop, St. Ignatius of Antioch in the Near East, was arrested, brought to Rome by armed guards and eventually martyred there in the arena. In a farewell letter which this early bishop and martyr wrote to his fellow Christians in Smyrna (today Izmir in modern Turkey), he made the first written mention in history of "the Catholic Church." He wrote, "Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" (To the Smyrnaeans 8:2). Thus, the second century of Christianity had scarcely begun when the name of the Catholic Church was already in use. Thereafter, mention of the name became more and more frequent in the written record. It appears in the oldest written account we possess outside the New Testament of the martyrdom of a Christian for his faith, the "Martyrdom of St. Polycarp," bishop of the same Church of Smyrna to which St. Ignatius of Antioch had written. St. Polycarp was martyred around 155, and the account of his sufferings dates back to that time. The narrator informs us that in his final prayers before giving up his life for Christ, St. Polycarp "remembered all who had met with him at any time, both small and great, both those with and those without renown, and the whole Catholic Church throughout the world." We know that St. Polycarp, at the time of his death in 155, had been a Christian for 86 years. He could not, therefore, have been born much later than 69 or 70. Yet it appears to have been a normal part of the vocabulary of a man of this era to be able to speak of "the whole Catholic Church throughout the world." The name had caught on, and no doubt for good reasons. The term "catholic" simply means "universal," and when employing it in those early days, St. Ignatius of Antioch and St. Polycarp of Smyrna were referring to the Church that was already "everywhere," as distinguished from whatever sects, schisms or splinter groups might have grown up here and there, in opposition to the Catholic Church. The term was already understood even then to be an especially fitting name because the Catholic Church was for everyone, not just for adepts, enthusiasts or the specially initiated who might have been attracted to her. Acts is the next book after the Gospels and is the book which tells the history of the early Chruch. The word "Apostolic" is in the first chapter. The book of Acts even tells us that the earliest believers were called "Christians." Others, like St. Ignatius and St. Polycarp, noted that the early "Christians" called their Church "Catholic". So, you see, the Catholic Church is "the Church" founded by Christ and handed down by the great commission to the Apostles: "as the father has sent me so I send you." It doesn't matter how evil or sinful certain members of the Catholic Church have been or will be, the fact remains that the Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ. There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. And the gates of hell will not prevail against the Catholic Church. When Freemason institutions are distant memory and piles of ash, the Catholic Church will still remain. by Kenneth D. Whitehead no bible. see catholic beast. |
DFM8608 User ID: 63883648 ![]() 04/28/2017 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You are wrong. At the time of the early church fathers, any use of 'catholic' was merely an acknowledgement of the fact that our Lord presided over His universal assembly of believers in whom would reside the Holy Spirit. Quoting: DFM8608 You should read Paul's epistle to the Galations and Ephesians. It comes down to what is the gospel being preached. The present day Roman Catholic churh (RCC) emphatically does NOT preach the gospel as given to the gentiles via the apostle Paul's 13 epistles. As such, the RCC preaches a very false gospel. I could go on and on, but will leave it there. OP is right. The line of popes traces itself back to St. Peter. No other church does this. [link to www.newadvent.org] Did you completely fail to read the history I posted in 3 separate posts? Given the Catholic history (from their own writtings) it would be not only ridiculous to believe it is Christ's Church, but impossible. The Apostle John was still living while St Linus, St. Cletus, and St Clements were given the position and power to be the only ones during that time to receive "revelation" from God --- Yet John wrote the book of Revelation while on the Isle of Patmos. It is utter lunacy to believe in the Catholic church's claim to authority. Sorry about that. I should have read all 3 posts. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71305547 ![]() 04/28/2017 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | we have nearly two thousand years of evidence that says they are the whore regardless of whether they were the true church in the beginning, their actions since then say they work for themselves and pagan ideology not god and they most assuredly do not abide by scripture, although they do try to pervert it for themselves |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74780567 ![]() 04/28/2017 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no salvation outside of Jesus Christ. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74780567 There is the truth your "church" leaders lie to you about And you believe them instead. A classic lie which is told to you is that the Carholic church is "the faith". How tragic that you accept that as your truth instead of the reality - that our faith is actually the faithfulness of Jesus apportioned to us. The thought that you would substitute a lie for that amazing truth demonstrates to everyone the enormous hold that "church" men have over your heart and mind. The catholic church protects the faith from error and administers the sacraments. It helps us get to heaven! You hear not. How on earth can the Catholic church protect the faith from error when THAT FAITH IS THE FAITHFULNESS OF JESUS CHRIST.? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70661422 ![]() 04/28/2017 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Corinthians 3:11 King James Version (KJV) 11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Matthew 16:18King James Version (KJV) 18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. Colossians 3:17King James Version (KJV) 17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. THE NAME OF THE CHURCH? OF CHRIST Romans 16:16King James Version (KJV) 16 Salute one another with an holy kiss. The churches of Christ salute you. CHURCH OF CATHOLIC? CHURCH OF LUTHERAN? give christ all authority ! you dont go to church! the lord adds you to his church the church of christ Acts 2:47King James Version (KJV) 47 Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70661422 ![]() 04/28/2017 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | is the pope authorized? TITUS 1:4-6 4 To Titus, mine own son after the common faith: Grace, mercy, and peace, from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ our Saviour. 5 For this cause left I thee in Crete, that thou shouldest set in order the things that are wanting, and ordain elders in every city, as I had appointed thee: 6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. IS THE BISHOP OF ROME MARRIED? TO ONE WIFE? WITH CHILDREN? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72037480 ![]() 04/29/2017 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The OP is 100% correct. If you are going to be Christian, the only logical and historical choice is to be Catholic. The ones who are always attacking the Catholic Church here on GLP are the ones who take issue with the Church's teaching on sexual morality. They want to pick and choose which commandments they are going to follow. Also, it was in Syria that Christians were first called Christian. It puts the whole Syrian conflict into a better context, especially when you come to learn that the Catholic Bishops of Syria fully support Assad's war against the "Syrian Rebels." |