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Re: Need a CLEAR, non-CGI, non-photoshoped picture of Earth from space
Any reasonable person would expect in this day an age to have many hundreds if not thousands of real images of Earth that are not composites or CGI.
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[link to epic.gsfc.nasa.gov (secure)]
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I dont trust you fella... sorry


but Kudos on the cute avatar and the way cool signature art
those are cool :)

Oh and yeah that Nasa Earth ya linked to is also cool art (composite)
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Looks like that photo was taken by an alien spaceship
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Right guys I'm sick of this debate. Let's use logic shall we - if you are on a spinning roundabout in a playground and it spins too fast the force pushes you out. If you are on the waltzer you get stuck to the wall and you can feel the movement and you can feel the force.

Tell me why can we not feel the earth spinning? Why do we not get sucked out into space?

Please don't answer with gravity as Gravity is just a theory and is obviously easily disproved by birds being able to fly, planes being able to fly, skateboarders getting air. Etc.

Also why is sea level? Should it not be sea curve? Why don't we have tilted buildings where the earth bends?

Why is there a horizon? Horizontal line

Why do sun dials work? How do they work on a globe?


So many questions.
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Any reasonable person would expect in this day an age to have many hundreds if not thousands of real images of Earth that are not composites or CGI.
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[link to epic.gsfc.nasa.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


I dont trust you fella... sorry
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I don't give a shit fella... sorry. I'm still right, you're still wrong.
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Re: Need a CLEAR, non-CGI, non-photoshoped picture of Earth from space
OP let me explain this to you in terms you might understand. The earth is not flat like the lead paint chips you ate as a kid. It is round, somewhat like the meds you take every day.
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Right guys I'm sick of this debate. Let's use logic shall we - if you are on a spinning roundabout in a playground and it spins too fast the force pushes you out. If you are on the waltzer you get stuck to the wall and you can feel the movement and you can feel the force.

Tell me why can we not feel the earth spinning? Why do we not get sucked out into space?
 Quoting: Answer this please 74806777

Because the countering "force" produced by earth's rotation is a tiny fraction of earth's gravity.
Please don't answer with gravity as Gravity is just a theory and is obviously easily disproved by birds being able to fly, planes being able to fly, skateboarders getting air. Etc.
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Holy shit, are you seriously this stupid? I have a Winnie the Pooh book that I used to read to my kid where Pooh makes exactly this misunderstanding of "gravity." Congrats, you have reduced yourself to the intellectual level of a fictional stuffed bear. The ability to fly does not disprove gravity.
Also why is sea level? Should it not be sea curve? Why don't we have tilted buildings where the earth bends?

Why is there a horizon? Horizontal line

Why do sun dials work? How do they work on a globe?


So many questions.
 Quoting: AC

You are the personification of Winnie the Pooh, it's amazing. Look it up tard, all your questions have demonstrable answers. You are wasting everyone's time.
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Well thank you mutt for your delusion of grandure answer. Making a mockery of someone trying to have a friendly debate shows you have a very weak demeanor and proves you can't actually answer the question like a civilized adult and you didn't even try to use your own reasoning. Another mindless ego fueled human. Laughable. Please move along and let someone else who knows how to debate reasonably answer.
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Well thank you mutt for your delusion of grandure answer. Making a mockery of someone trying to have a friendly debate shows you have a very weak demeanor and proves you can't actually answer the question like a civilized adult and you didn't even try to use your own reasoning.
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You made a mockery of yourself pal. You think flight proves gravity false? An elementary school student knows enough to understand why that's false. Most children know more about basic physics than you do! Aerodynamic lift, look it up. The ability to resist gravity by applying a countering force does not disprove the existence of gravity.
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I'm still laughing that you get your source material from a children's book. That's made my day.
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Any reasonable person would expect in this day an age to have many hundreds if not thousands of real images of Earth that are not composites or CGI.
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[link to epic.gsfc.nasa.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


I dont trust you fella... sorry
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I don't give a shit fella... sorry. I'm still right, you're still wrong.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


Well at least I can say it with kindness you seem to always get hostile with people... very emotional and ya like to pull out the name calling rather than argue the facts...

More about your facts: I mean composites

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

a quote from your chosen evidence source from Nasa saying pretty much without a doubt... its an Image a composite CREATED from BANDS is all it is.

July 22nd, 2016 (from your links about page)

These images were created using the bands from EPIC that are within the human visual range. They have been color and brightness adjusted to represent what a conventional camera would produce.

The EPIC BANDS are the composite they strips.
Let's dig deeper
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Thank you for not swearing and less mockery good job you are learning, since we are only learning from media etc I refer you to the song californication - red hot chili peppers.

Also I love it how you center your argument on only one of my questions. Again with an answer that still does not prove anything, I'm looking for concrete evidence that I can touch and feel. Please prove me wrong with tests on every question I have asked. Please and then I will agree that I was wrong. But for now I'm still open.
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I dont trust you fella... sorry
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I don't give a shit fella... sorry. I'm still right, you're still wrong.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


Well at least I can say it with kindness you seem to always get hostile with people... very emotional and ya like to pull out the name calling rather than argue the facts...

More about your facts: I mean composites
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Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
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Thank you for not swearing and less mockery good job you are learning, since we are only learning from media etc I refer you to the song californication - red hot chili peppers.

Also I love it how you center your argument on only one of my questions. Again with an answer that still does not prove anything, I'm looking for concrete evidence that I can touch and feel. Please prove me wrong with tests on every question I have asked. Please and then I will agree that I was wrong. But for now I'm still open.
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I'm telling you how it is. Your questions are not worth my time. If you're that stupid that you think "flight" disproves gravity then you're too stupid to understand just about anything. I weep for the nation if that's where we're headed.
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I'm still laughing that you get your source material from a children's book. That's made my day.
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I'm laughing that your intellect is right at the level of a book aimed at 2 year old children.
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So you have time to mock me but no time to answer simple questions? Mate are you not embarrassed? Surely it will take a genius like you 5 minutes to answer, you can't so you mock me. Case closed.
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So you have time to mock me but no time to answer simple questions? Mate are you not embarrassed? Surely it will take a genius like you 5 minutes to answer, you can't so you mock me. Case closed.
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Strawman. Your questions have already been answered if you'd bother to do your research. The problem is you refuse to even understand the first question, which itself illustrates your stupidity by your asking it. You think flight disproves gravity. It doesn't, no more than rockets disprove gravity. Just because a force can be applied to offset gravity does not disprove gravity.

You have all the intelligence of a fictional stuffed bear, which is both hilarious and frightening at the same time. You are now a plaything for my amusement, trying to educate you further would be a waste of my time; you have the intellectual capacity for science of a 2 year old and yet you have the ability to type sentences... Remember people, this dumbasses have the right to vote...

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My intellect is still open and yours is clearly lower than mine because you cannot even debate like an adult. Even if you did have a better grasp of this subject ridiculing the subject really discredits anything you say. You still have yet to answer my so obviously easy answers. I take it you mock your child too? Pathetic.
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My intellect is still open and yours is clearly lower than mine because you cannot even debate like an adult.
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LMFAO! Your intellect is that of Winnie the fucking Pooh. You're not worth debating, you're an idiot with the ability to type.
Even if you did have a better grasp of this subject ridiculing the subject really discredits anything you say.
 Quoting: AC

Nope. What I say is true no matter how much of an asshole I am to you. You are now my plaything. Dance for me.
I take it you mock your child too? Pathetic.
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No. My child had the capacity to quickly learn. When I explained things like how a force can be applied to counter gravity, they listened. You do not. You are stuck at a 2 year old level of intelligence.

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Why would you assume I have not done research? What these ideas come out of thin air?

I used to be like you until I studied and until I did my own research.

All you go on about is gravity, answer my other questions and I am no strawman I am simply man.

Why do you assume I can vote? Why would I want to? Also who are you asking? Also what's that got to do with me asking you to answer questions and you not answering them still? Lol

Also I didn't even say what I believed you just assumed and you know what they say about assuming.

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I dont trust you fella... sorry
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I don't give a shit fella... sorry. I'm still right, you're still wrong.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


Well at least I can say it with kindness you seem to always get hostile with people... very emotional and ya like to pull out the name calling rather than argue the facts...

More about your facts: I mean composites
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Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
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I dont need to define it... Nasa does in the material I attached at 3:35 Time stamp of the one and within the first minute of the other. But in a nut shell it means THEY BUILT IT, Its a still a simulation of a real picture ...Why? because it has to be the people in Nasa vid say. Haha


They also say in the about info from your link:
....to represent what a conventional camera would produce.

meaning its not conventional ...its a representation. Its art and nothing more than ART. but its really well dont Art and it keeps getting better I will say that.
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טמבל if I'm such an idiot explain the other questions, If you can't fine, I'm sure others can. Please only reply if you can. I know you can't and it's ok not to be able to. If you can't answer all the questions, please let some else and stop wasting your time. It's obvious to anyone that you didn't answer any of my questions with tests that I can simply do myself, thank you for trying to help. I really appreciate it. Now let someone else try.
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I don't give a shit fella... sorry. I'm still right, you're still wrong.
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Well at least I can say it with kindness you seem to always get hostile with people... very emotional and ya like to pull out the name calling rather than argue the facts...

More about your facts: I mean composites
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72979526

Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
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I dont need to define it...
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Yes, you do. Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
meaning its not conventional ...its a representation. Its art and nothing more than ART.
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Wrong. It's an image designed to represent what a conventional camera would produce. It's not the same kind of camera you have in your cell phone, obviously. Neither are most astronomical CCDs. But the filters used and data processing can be done in such a way as to produce an image that represents what a normal camera would see. It's no different with my own astrophotography. Does that mean my images are fakes or just art? Nope.
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if I'm such an idiot explain the other questions
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Show me you can learn by admitting you were hilariously wrong about flight disproving gravity, and I will. Otherwise you prove you can't learn anything and it's a waste of time to try to teach you anything.
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Also I actually find it offensive that you assume things about me, you don't know my age, my race, my gender, my location. You don't know me. What if I don't know where to look for the answer to all the questions and genuinely looking for answers. It's pathetic to mock people and shows you are a very tackless individual, that would rather mock then help a fellow member out. Really shocking actually that you are supposed to be a moderator.
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Also I actually find it offensive that you assume things about me, you don't know my age, my race, my gender, my location. You don't know me. What if I don't know where to look for the answer to all the questions and genuinely looking for answers. It's pathetic to mock people and shows you are a very tackless individual, that would rather mock then help a fellow member out. Really shocking actually that you are supposed to be a moderator.
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I'll take that as a "no" then.
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Sorry mutt but I can't do a test myself with that info can I? I'm asking for tests I can do myself. For example I know a flame is hot because when I touch it it burns. I don't think you get what im asking.
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Well thanks for wasting my time, you have been exceedingly helpful. Not. Best stick to your day job.
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Well at least I can say it with kindness you seem to always get hostile with people... very emotional and ya like to pull out the name calling rather than argue the facts...

More about your facts: I mean composites
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72979526

Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
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I dont need to define it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72979526

Yes, you do. Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
meaning its not conventional ...its a representation. Its art and nothing more than ART.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong. It's an image designed to represent what a conventional camera would produce. It's not the same kind of camera you have in your cell phone, obviously. Neither are most astronomical CCDs. But the filters used and data processing can be done in such a way as to produce an image that represents what a normal camera would see. It's no different with my own astrophotography. Does that mean my images are fakes or just art? Nope.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


The argument from the start was the OP wanted to see one pic of the earth taken with a real camera showing what it looks like without needing to be composited, banded or a representation through any kind of image manipulation and you cannot show that, refute that or even argue why it doesnt exist. So ya would have been better served to stay off the forums today because each new answer you give only shows your inability to address the questions brought up by the OP and others... in other words your work is done here... fail... now ... next ---->

but its still a way cure avatar and sig...cant take that away from ya :)
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Right guys I'm sick of this debate. Let's use logic shall we - if you are on a spinning roundabout in a playground and it spins too fast the force pushes you out. If you are on the waltzer you get stuck to the wall and you can feel the movement and you can feel the force.

Tell me why can we not feel the earth spinning? Why do we not get sucked out into space?
 Quoting: Answer this please 74806777

The centripetal force is equal to less than 1/2 of one percent of gravity.

Please don't answer with gravity as Gravity is just a theory and is obviously easily disproved by birds being able to fly, planes being able to fly, skateboarders getting air. Etc.
 Quoting: Answer this please 74806777

Cavendish experiment proves gravity exists. Birds and planes fly because they create lift to oppose gravity. They stop producing lift and they come back down. Skateboarders come right back down.

Also why is sea level? Should it not be sea curve?
 Quoting: Answer this please 74806777

Refers to the elevation. Sea level is a uniform distance from the center.

Why don't we have tilted buildings where the earth bends?
 Quoting: Answer this please 74806777

You think you can see a tilt of less than a degree?

Why is there a horizon? Horizontal line
 Quoting: Answer this please 74806777

Because the Earth curves away from you. On a flat Earth it would not be a sharp line defined by the height of the observer.

Why do sun dials work? How do they work on a globe?
 Quoting: Answer this please 74806777

Not only do they work on a globe, they ONLY work correctly on a globe. Flat Earth still can't work out how the Sun should rise due East for all observers on the equinoxes and in the SouthEast in the Northern hemisphere winter.
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No photos from the moons landings, as they a laughable fakes, just silly really.
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Prove it.
[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]
[link to www.metabunk.org (secure)]
I sure would like to know how it is that the famous blue marble photo from Apollo 17 matches up so perfectly with the expected perspective of the planet along with weather satellite photos and weather reports from that day.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut



This is really funny man.


You just presented me a CGI and a Globe.Both are fake.


2 fakes don't make one right.


I could do EXACTLY the same with a CGI flat earth and a flat earth model.
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No CGI in 1972. That picture was taken on film.
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Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
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I dont need to define it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72979526

Yes, you do. Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
meaning its not conventional ...its a representation. Its art and nothing more than ART.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong. It's an image designed to represent what a conventional camera would produce. It's not the same kind of camera you have in your cell phone, obviously. Neither are most astronomical CCDs. But the filters used and data processing can be done in such a way as to produce an image that represents what a normal camera would see. It's no different with my own astrophotography. Does that mean my images are fakes or just art? Nope.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


The argument from the start was the OP wanted to see one pic of the earth taken with a real camera showing what it looks like without needing to be composited, banded or a representation through any kind of image manipulation and you cannot show that, refute that or even argue why it doesnt exist. So ya would have been better served to stay off the forums today because each new answer you give only shows your inability to address the questions brought up by the OP and others... in other words your work is done here... fail... now ... next ---->

but its still a way cure avatar and sig...cant take that away from ya :)
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And he got it on page one and ignored it. He was presented with it again and called it CGI.
Here it is again.
[link to eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov (secure)]
Taken on film in 1972.