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If you actually know where to look, it isn’t that hard to find plenty of non NASA earth images.

Example.
Amsat AO-40
An amateur radio satellite.

It had an on board camera and it took plenty of pics that me, and many others received using normal radio equipment.

This is the website for the main group that was controlling it, along with plenty of pictures they received from it.

[link to www.jamsat.or.jp]

I think the best picture is this one.

[link to www.jamsat.or.jp]

And that is the full unedited picture, just like i would have recieved if i had decoded the signal with my equipment at home.

For more information on the overal AO-40 platform.

[link to www.phil-mont.org]


And second example is dish earth.
Any dish network subscriber should have been aware of it.
Dish network had a high res camera on one of their satellites and it downlinked a live video feed on one of the channels that any dish subscriber could view.
They did it from 2009 to 2012.
It had it’s “wow” factor for a bit, but got boring after a while.
Dish network finally killed the feed in 2012.

Google “dish earth” and you will find many screen caps of the image that was being down linked.
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This reality we're in is flat, should be obvious by now. All of the people saying otherwise are either ignorant, or are paid to gatekeep. Unfortunately most if not all of the mods here belong to the latter.
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Thank you anonymous for taking the time to answer my questions in detail and without mockery, very appreciated. I still would like something I can do myself, as in a test that I can touch and/see myself to prove either way as I'm still on the fence with this one.
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I dont need to define it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72979526

Yes, you do. Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
meaning its not conventional ...its a representation. Its art and nothing more than ART.
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Wrong. It's an image designed to represent what a conventional camera would produce. It's not the same kind of camera you have in your cell phone, obviously. Neither are most astronomical CCDs. But the filters used and data processing can be done in such a way as to produce an image that represents what a normal camera would see. It's no different with my own astrophotography. Does that mean my images are fakes or just art? Nope.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


The argument from the start was the OP wanted to see one pic of the earth taken with a real camera showing what it looks like without needing to be composited, banded or a representation through any kind of image manipulation and you cannot show that, refute that or even argue why it doesnt exist. So ya would have been better served to stay off the forums today because each new answer you give only shows your inability to address the questions brought up by the OP and others... in other words your work is done here... fail... now ... next ---->

but its still a way cure avatar and sig...cant take that away from ya :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72979526


And he got it on page one and ignored it. He was presented with it again and called it CGI.
Here it is again.
[link to eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov (secure)]
Taken on film in 1972.
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You do realize the wording is (as the astronauts saw it)
... Also it is believed by many that these images were made by using the round outer rim of the window. which is WHY they are not so easily accepted. Many people want to see the picture with the window also for a comparison. This is why flat earthers deny this one... although its the best shot at support for a real pic of the whole earth in frame with no obstruction allegedly.
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Yes, you do. Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
...

Wrong. It's an image designed to represent what a conventional camera would produce. It's not the same kind of camera you have in your cell phone, obviously. Neither are most astronomical CCDs. But the filters used and data processing can be done in such a way as to produce an image that represents what a normal camera would see. It's no different with my own astrophotography. Does that mean my images are fakes or just art? Nope.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


The argument from the start was the OP wanted to see one pic of the earth taken with a real camera showing what it looks like without needing to be composited, banded or a representation through any kind of image manipulation and you cannot show that, refute that or even argue why it doesnt exist. So ya would have been better served to stay off the forums today because each new answer you give only shows your inability to address the questions brought up by the OP and others... in other words your work is done here... fail... now ... next ---->

but its still a way cure avatar and sig...cant take that away from ya :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72979526


And he got it on page one and ignored it. He was presented with it again and called it CGI.
Here it is again.
[link to eoimages.gsfc.nasa.gov (secure)]
Taken on film in 1972.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73085799


You do realize the wording is (as the astronauts saw it)
... Also it is believed by many that these images were made by using the round outer rim of the window. which is WHY they are not so easily accepted. Many people want to see the picture with the window also for a comparison. This is why flat earthers deny this one... although its the best shot at support for a real pic of the whole earth in frame with no obstruction allegedly.
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Framed by a window in low Earth orbit would not give that large a field of view. And the windows they used most were trapezoidal shaped.
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Thank you anonymous for taking the time to answer my questions in detail and without mockery, very appreciated. I still would like something I can do myself, as in a test that I can touch and/see myself to prove either way as I'm still on the fence with this one.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74806777

Mount your phone or any digital camera on a tripod.
Take a photo through a red filter.
Take another photo through a green filter.
And one more photo through a blue filter.
Then take a photo without filter.

Next combine the red, green and blue shots in Photoshop or another image processing program.
Compare the result with the photo taken without filter.

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Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
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I dont need to define it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72979526

Yes, you do. Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
meaning its not conventional ...its a representation. Its art and nothing more than ART.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong. It's an image designed to represent what a conventional camera would produce. It's not the same kind of camera you have in your cell phone, obviously. Neither are most astronomical CCDs. But the filters used and data processing can be done in such a way as to produce an image that represents what a normal camera would see. It's no different with my own astrophotography. Does that mean my images are fakes or just art? Nope.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut


The argument from the start was the OP wanted to see one pic of the earth taken with a real camera showing what it looks like without needing to be composited, banded or a representation through any kind of image manipulation and you cannot show that, refute that or even argue why it doesnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72979526

Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
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I dont need to define it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72979526

Yes, you do. Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
meaning its not conventional ...its a representation. Its art and nothing more than ART.
 Quoting: AC

Wrong. It's an image designed to represent what a conventional camera would produce. It's not the same kind of camera you have in your cell phone, obviously. Neither are most astronomical CCDs. But the filters used and data processing can be done in such a way as to produce an image that represents what a normal camera would see. It's no different with my own astrophotography. Does that mean my images are fakes or just art? Nope.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut

The argument from the start was the OP wanted to see one pic of the earth taken with a real camera showing what it looks like without needing to be composited, banded or a representation through any kind of image manipulation and you cannot show that, refute that or even argue why it doesnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72979526

Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut

For the sake of completeness: Even colour negative and colour slide films are composed of three different colour sensitive layers. From a technical view colour negative and colour slide films are composites, too.
Only black and white photos are not composites.

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Yes, you do. Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
...

Wrong. It's an image designed to represent what a conventional camera would produce. It's not the same kind of camera you have in your cell phone, obviously. Neither are most astronomical CCDs. But the filters used and data processing can be done in such a way as to produce an image that represents what a normal camera would see. It's no different with my own astrophotography. Does that mean my images are fakes or just art? Nope.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut

The argument from the start was the OP wanted to see one pic of the earth taken with a real camera showing what it looks like without needing to be composited, banded or a representation through any kind of image manipulation and you cannot show that, refute that or even argue why it doesnt exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72979526

Define "composite." If by composite you mean composed of images shot through red green and blue filters, then I have news for you. Every digital photograph you have ever taken with a digital camera is a composite. They all use pixels filtered for various colors of light and then combine those images. In consumer cameras this process is hidden from the user and done internally in the camera. The images I linked to are a "composite" in that sense, but so are the images from the cell phone in your pocket.
 Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut

For the sake of completeness: Even colour negative and colour slide films are composed of three different colour sensitive layers. From a technical view colour negative and colour slide films are composites, too.
Only black and white photos are not composites.

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Good point.
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I am a Globe earth believer but i wonder too that there is no real Picture of the earth. Theres should be thousands by now.

[link to flache-erde.info (secure)]

This Picture doesent help aswell.

My theory is that we cant leave the earth Orbit yet. Theres arge a lot of NASA employees who Said that they cant leave the earth Orbit.




So questions are allowed i guess.
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I am a Globe earth believer but i wonder too that there is no real Picture of the earth. Theres should be thousands by now.

[link to flache-erde.info (secure)]

This Picture doesent help aswell.
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How does the Cologne Cathedral look like?

Like this? [link to www.koelner-dom.de]
Like this? [link to www.ksta.de]
Or like this? [link to www.urlaubsziele.com]
May be like this? [link to www.koelntourismus.de (secure)]

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I'll say it again:
Man, we need better science education!
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If anyone could provide such a picture, I will be ETERNALLY thankful !


There is over a year since I try to find such a pic.


It seems I can find, much easier, pics of Loch Ness monster, Yeti, chupacabra that a picture of our world.
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I am searching as we speak
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It doesn't exist! Only with the moon voyage does such pictures exist. There is no way you can take a picture of this big earth unless you are 100s of thousands of miles away. All of the picture are stitched together by many smaller pics to make a complete picture. Why do you think that when you see video from ISS it's only a portion of the globe?
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You basically contradict yourself.


First, you say "It doesn't exist!", than right after "Only with the moon voyage does such pictures exist".



So, there ARE pics of Earth, from moon voyages.



Can you point me to one, please?
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[link to www.nasa.gov (secure)]

There you go.
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Here’s a photo of Earth and Mars from the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter.

[link to www.extremetech.com (secure)]

Very cool.
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Here’s a photo of Earth from Saturn. It’s very small, but that’s a long distance photo for sure.

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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Here’s a lot of them, including one real cool one that was taken from beyond the moon by the Deep Space Climate Observatory satellite.

[link to explorer1.jpl.nasa.gov (secure)]
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[link to eol.jsc.nasa.gov (secure)]

Have fun.
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If anyone could provide such a picture, I will be ETERNALLY thankful !


There is over a year since I try to find such a pic.


It seems I can find, much easier, pics of Loch Ness monster, Yeti, chupacabra that a picture of our world.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Here is a thought, why dont you supply us with a photo, or even better, with a video of the "ice wall". Live stream would be best so every one can follow you for months on end "circumventing" earth.

You better not use a green screen and cgi........
 Quoting: Unchained@SA 48801353



I cannot provide such a picture.


And even if I could, it would not prove the shape of the Earth.


However, I am not NASA.

They spent HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, and they can't even provide a fucking picture of Earth who is not CGI or photoshoped.


I am not even throwing in the equation the other "space" agencies.


Trillions of dollars spent worldwide, by the MOST POWERFUL GOVERMENTS, to keep people believe they are INSIGNIFICANT, that NOTHING matters, because in the grand scheme of things, WE ARE NOTHING.


There are people who thinks FE is a CIA psy-op...when THE MONEY SPENT SAID THE EXACT OPPOSITE !


The GLOBE is a fucking psy-op!


Best psy-op to keep the humanity is sheep state is to say that we live on a GLOBE, in a HUUUUUGE, INFINITE Universe, and we mean NOTHING !
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epiclol
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If anyone could provide such a picture, I will be ETERNALLY thankful !


There is over a year since I try to find such a pic.


It seems I can find, much easier, pics of Loch Ness monster, Yeti, chupacabra that a picture of our world.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


If you are looking for some information to settle the flat earth/sphere earth debate, you don't need to look to second hand sources, that you cannot verify yourself.

Basically, all you need to do is to look at the sky, and particularly how things move.

The very great difference in between the two models, is how the sun is moving.

One one hand, on flat earth, the sun moves towards you, and away from you, at different times.

In other words, in the sphere earth model, the sun stays about the same distance from you all the time, meanwhile in FE, it can be 10 times further away than it is in the middle of the day.

I guess it comes as no surprise to you, things get smaller the further away they are.

So question is, is the sun 10 times smaller at times than it is in the middle of the day?

Because of perspective things seem to move slowly far away, yet up close, the movement seems fast, imagine a racing car, comping towards you and pass you.

Does this correlate to how the sun moves in the sky, fast at times, slow at times?
 Quoting: artMan


To wrap this up, anyone with 12 sticks can settle this discussion.
Just put one out each hour during the day, in the direction of the sun, and check, IS THE MOVEMENT LINEAR OR IS IT NON-LINEAR?????

You see? anyone with 12 sticks and a sunny day can prove you wrong.
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Dish Network had (still has?) a channel with a live view from one of their satellite cameras. You could verify the weather in your area matched the video.

Since their satellites are in geosynchronous orbit, they show that you do not need to be farther than ~22,000 miles from earth to take a complete picture with a single camera.


hiding

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Its really quite simple.
You cannot prove anything to a flat earther, they call all evidence fake.
Forget that the whole technological world ceases to work in a flat earth scenario, doesn't matter according to their logic.

There is not any form of evidence they will accept ever. They only bat around their circular retarfed logic til you give up and walk away from their crazy deluded ass.
They count that as a win.

Only solution is to not talk with them, ever. If someone expresses that idea, stop talking, do not do business with, do not entertain their fantasy.
I count those folks as dead already, same with devout religious types.
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there's a fucking million out there

it's called Nasa.gov
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No image you find will work for you. Because you already believe them to be fake to begin with. So what's your point?
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It's not about belief.


I am 44, huge sci-fi movie fan, playing computer gmes since 1994.


I can discern between a real picture and a CGI.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


At least you freely admit you are a hopeless, ignorant loser.

"I am 44, huge sci-fi movie fan, playing computer gmes since 1994."
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It doesn't exist! Only with the moon voyage does such pictures exist. There is no way you can take a picture of this big earth unless you are 100s of thousands of miles away. All of the picture are stitched together by many smaller pics to make a complete picture. Why do you think that when you see video from ISS it's only a portion of the globe?
 Quoting: Axeman-awake

Why does it have to be the whole globe?

With a picture taken from the ISS you can still see it's a sphere.
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If anyone could provide such a picture, I will be ETERNALLY thankful !


There is over a year since I try to find such a pic.


It seems I can find, much easier, pics of Loch Ness monster, Yeti, chupacabra that a picture of our world.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Here is a thought, why dont you supply us with a photo, or even better, with a video of the "ice wall". Live stream would be best so every one can follow you for months on end "circumventing" earth.

You better not use a green screen and cgi........
 Quoting: Unchained@SA 48801353



I cannot provide such a picture.


And even if I could, it would not prove the shape of the Earth.


However, I am not NASA.

They spent HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, and they can't even provide a fucking picture of Earth who is not CGI or photoshoped.


I am not even throwing in the equation the other "space" agencies.


Trillions of dollars spent worldwide, by the MOST POWERFUL GOVERMENTS, to keep people believe they are INSIGNIFICANT, that NOTHING matters, because in the grand scheme of things, WE ARE NOTHING.


There are people who thinks FE is a CIA psy-op...when THE MONEY SPENT SAID THE EXACT OPPOSITE !


The GLOBE is a fucking psy-op!


Best psy-op to keep the humanity is sheep state is to say that we live on a GLOBE, in a HUUUUUGE, INFINITE Universe, and we mean NOTHING !
 Quoting: deplorable recollector

For chrissakes.... centuries ago, astronomers looked through their telescopes and saw Saturn.... they weren't able to take pictures yet, but they knew damn well what they saw was round.
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If anyone could provide such a picture, I will be ETERNALLY thankful !


There is over a year since I try to find such a pic.


It seems I can find, much easier, pics of Loch Ness monster, Yeti, chupacabra that a picture of our world.
 Quoting: deplorable recollector


Handheld or tripod?





GLP