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Is It Okay To Be Temporal Agnostic but Still Hope For a Gracious God?

 
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I mean isn't it logical to hold the view that God cannot be proven or disproved (not Atheist).

However to still hold some faith that Jesus would understand this position..

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Being an Agnostic means you have no faith so you posted a double negative are just playing.
 Quoting: Rachael123


TEMPORAL agnostic.

It's a thing. hf
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So you are asking is OK not to believe in God?Yes.If your asking if there is a God would it be OK with Him that you don't believe He exists yes.Faith is a a gift so your off the hook.If your interested in learning about God pray the rosary.You will be close to the Face of God.I guarantee it.
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Well said. You're not exactly off the hook, but if you are willing to learn and continue to seek, a way will be made for you. I second the recommendation to pray the Rosary.
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I mean isn't it logical to hold the view that God cannot be proven or disproved (not Atheist).

However to still hold some faith that Jesus would understand this position..

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God CAN be proven, once you come to know him!

Have you been trying to find him according to the directions he's given us for this? Ya don't just pick up the phone ya know?

His directions are in the bible!

It's HIS WORLD, HIS universe. Because of this, you HAVE to play by HIS rules. He is spirit. Right now, you are flesh. He once became flesh in order for mankind to better understand him, yet the evil inclination of the natural state of fleshly mankind prevents the connection of the two, except through his son, Jesus.

Of course Jesus understands this position. Like you, he was once human and can relate to what you are feeling.

Believe me when I tell you, GOD ESPECIALLY LOVES THOSE WHO ARE AGNOSTIC!

He knows that once you "see the light" of him and his reality, you will become a very powerful spokesman on his behalf. Every Christian at some point in their life were agnostic prior to being set free of the curse that's upon every living human on the planet.

Unlike the atheist, he knows his spirit dwells inside you, but you are afraid to acknowledge it. This is why you are wrestling with this question.

He is waiting for you to understand that there is no fear to be found in love.

"Love can build a bridge... between your heart and mine" he shouts.

He's already half way to you. When are you going to attempt to meet him in the middle?

You have right up to your last breath to do it!
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You're not quite there yet, disavowing religious beliefs doesn't mean you don't believe in G-d, it just means that you're free from artificially created bullshit.
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I mean isn't it logical to hold the view that God cannot be proven or disproved (not Atheist).

However to still hold some faith that Jesus would understand this position..

hiding
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Being an Agnostic means you have no faith so you posted a double negative are just playing.
 Quoting: Rachael123






Being agnostic means you neither believe, or totally disbelieve.

I've never conversed with an open agnostic that opposed God, or held to him.

Usually, agnostic people are very analytical and find it very hard to believe something they can't see, or feel....yet.

Once they (IN FAITH) take the leap, God wraps them up in a shroud of protection, because he knows how fragile they really are, and how quickly their Pure Logic could destroy everything.

One CAN NOT apply logic to spiritual matters!

As the bible say's "One must approach the throne of grace with the mind of a child" in order to receive!

This is the ultimate expression of faith. This is also God's ultimate demand upon us that we have faith. Without faith, flesh and spirit can never unite!

Faith is simply having hope and belief that something is real! The action of faith allows God to reveal himself to mankind, and make unification between flesh and spirit possible..

There is no other way!

Jesus Christ was both flesh AND a physically living spirit essence of God himself.

Through the actions and deeds gifted to us by Jesus while he was here on earth, we find our spiritual salvation.

....AND IT'S A FREE GIFT TO ANYONE WHO DESIRES IT, but there are directions we must follow in order to receive it.

Once received, it can not be taken away unless we deny it.

The atheist denies it!
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You're not quite there yet, disavowing religious beliefs doesn't mean you don't believe in G-d, it just means that you're free from artificially created bullshit.
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If God were not real, you'd have no anger in the matter.

BTW, your anger is showing!
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I mean isn't it logical to hold the view that God cannot be proven or disproved (not Atheist).

However to still hold some faith that Jesus would understand this position..

hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72622244


Being an Agnostic means you have no faith so you posted a double negative are just playing.
 Quoting: Rachael123






Being agnostic means you neither believe, or totally disbelieve.

I've never conversed with an open agnostic that opposed God, or held to him.

Usually, agnostic people are very analytical and find it very hard to believe something they can't see, or feel....yet.

Once they (IN FAITH) take the leap, God wraps them up in a shroud of protection, because he knows how fragile they really are, and how quickly their Pure Logic could destroy everything.

One CAN NOT apply logic to spiritual matters!

As the bible say's "One must approach the throne of grace with the mind of a child" in order to receive!

This is the ultimate expression of faith. This is also God's ultimate demand upon us that we have faith. Without faith, flesh and spirit can never unite!

Faith is simply having hope and belief that something is real! The action of faith allows God to reveal himself to mankind, and make unification between flesh and spirit possible..

There is no other way!

Jesus Christ was both flesh AND a physically living spirit essence of God himself.

Through the actions and deeds gifted to us by Jesus while he was here on earth, we find our spiritual salvation.

....AND IT'S A FREE GIFT TO ANYONE WHO DESIRES IT, but there are directions we must follow in order to receive it.

Once received, it can not be taken away unless we deny it.

The atheist denies it!
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Blah,This is a fake thread.You have many more posted.Post away. Last bump..
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Cut me a break,you just removed my last post.You might be legit or a cult but you guys have been here over and over the last few months.Give it a break.
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Re: Is It Okay To Be Temporal Agnostic but Still Hope For a Gracious God?
Came up in a recent Mass reading, OP.

From John Chapter 12:



46 I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.
47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.


He seems to imply that not believing is not as bad as rejecting His message.
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Well the thing is, Eternal Life is a gift, you take it or you reject it.
If you decide to not take the gift of Eternal Life how can you then live for ever?

[link to biblebelievers.com]
Jesus tells you to come.

I'd say this verse tells you what you need to know:
Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

Luke 11:10
For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Start looking, don't stay with the status quo.

Jesus is knocking on your door:
Revelation 3:20
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


It ain't easy.

To withstand any doubt that the faith was a man made tool is impossible for some. A struggle.

Blessed are those who believe but have not seen.. I hear that.

I struggle.

I still hope.

I need to rest at a conclusion and temporal agnostic seems to give me respite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72622244






Respite? Yes.
Peace? No

You are made up of two bodies. Your spiritual body, and your physical body.

Your spiritual body already knows the truth of Christ, but your physical body is wrestling with doubt because it does not understand spiritual matters.

Faith, and knowing the reality of God is the bridge that brings the two bodies together.

Once in harmony, your fears, confusion, uncertainties, all come to an end.

You already have everything you need, except faith.

Faith is the act that allows the Lving God to move in your life, and reveal his reality and the love he has for us.

Without faith, you may as well worship Santa Clause because none of it will ever be real until you decide to believe in something that you can not see with your physical eyes, or hear with your physical ears.
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Re: Is It Okay To Be Temporal Agnostic but Still Hope For a Gracious God?
I mean isn't it logical to hold the view that God cannot be proven or disproved (not Atheist).

However to still hold some faith that Jesus would understand this position..

hiding
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72622244


Being an Agnostic means you have no faith so you posted a double negative are just playing.
 Quoting: Rachael123






Being agnostic means you neither believe, or totally disbelieve.

I've never conversed with an open agnostic that opposed God, or held to him.

Usually, agnostic people are very analytical and find it very hard to believe something they can't see, or feel....yet.

Once they (IN FAITH) take the leap, God wraps them up in a shroud of protection, because he knows how fragile they really are, and how quickly their Pure Logic could destroy everything.

One CAN NOT apply logic to spiritual matters!

As the bible say's "One must approach the throne of grace with the mind of a child" in order to receive!

This is the ultimate expression of faith. This is also God's ultimate demand upon us that we have faith. Without faith, flesh and spirit can never unite!

Faith is simply having hope and belief that something is real! The action of faith allows God to reveal himself to mankind, and make unification between flesh and spirit possible..

There is no other way!

Jesus Christ was both flesh AND a physically living spirit essence of God himself.

Through the actions and deeds gifted to us by Jesus while he was here on earth, we find our spiritual salvation.

....AND IT'S A FREE GIFT TO ANYONE WHO DESIRES IT, but there are directions we must follow in order to receive it.

Once received, it can not be taken away unless we deny it.

The atheist denies it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47643906


Blah,This is a fake thread.You have many more posted.Post away. Last bump..
 Quoting: Rachael123





.....Right up to your last breath.

Praying for you!
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Being an Agnostic means you have no faith so you posted a double negative are just playing.
 Quoting: Rachael123


TEMPORAL agnostic.

It's a thing. hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72622244


So you are asking is OK not to believe in God?Yes.If your asking if there is a God would it be OK with Him that you don't believe He exists yes.Faith is a a gift so your off the hook.If your interested in learning about God pray the rosary.You will be close to the Face of God.I guarantee it.
 Quoting: Rachael123


I have both an overactive imagination and thinking mind as it is..

I'll holdout for the moment God's presence is irrefutable.

Alot of Christians believe it will happen soon anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72622244


Practical reason is still reason. Prudence suggests that understanding the word God (true meaning of the word) would be a good pace to start.

There are many "gods" people worship. Get the definition/understanding of the term and voila... you have wrestled and gotten a Name. You will be Israel.





GLP