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Can You See That Jesus IS God?

 
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Can You See That Jesus IS God?
That you may know that I, the LORD,
Who call you by your name,
Am the God of Israel.

I am the LORD, and there is no other;
There is no God besides Me
.


Thus says the LORD,
The Holy One of Israel, and his Maker


Truly You are God, who hide Yourself,
O God of Israel, the Savior!


For thus says the LORD,
Who created the heavens,
Who is God,
Who formed the earth and made it,
Who has established it,
Who did not create it in vain,
Who formed it to be inhabited:
"I am the LORD, and there is no other.
I have not spoken in secret,
In a dark place of the earth;
I did not say to the seed of Jacob,
'Seek Me in vain';
I, the LORD, speak righteousness,
I declare things that are right.


Who has declared this from ancient time?
Who has told it from that time?
Have not I, the LORD?
And there is no other God besides Me,
A just God and a Savior;
There is none besides Me.


"Look to Me, and be saved,
All you ends of the earth!
For I am God, and there is no other
.

I have sworn by Myself;
The word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness,
And shall not return,
That to Me every knee shall bow,
Every tongue shall take an oath
.

He shall say,
'Surely in the LORD I have righteousness and strength.
To Him men shall come,
And all shall be ashamed
Who are incensed against Him
.

In the LORD all the descendants of Israel
Shall be justified, and shall glory.'




Behold, My Servant shall deal prudently;
He shall be exalted and extolled and be very high.

Just as many were astonished at you,
So His visage was marred more than any man,
And His form more than the sons of men;

So shall He sprinkle many nations.
Kings shall shut their mouths at Him;
For what had not been told them they shall see,
And what they had not heard they shall consider.

Who has believed our report?
And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?

For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant,
And as a root out of dry ground.
He has no form or comeliness;
And when we see Him,
There is no beauty that we should desire Him.

He is despised and rejected by men,
A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief.
And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him;
He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.

Surely He has borne our griefs
And carried our sorrows;
Yet we esteemed Him stricken,
Smitten by God, and afflicted.

But He was wounded for our transgressions,
He was bruised for our iniquities;
The chastisement for our peace was upon Him,
And by His stripes we are healed.

All we like sheep have gone astray;
We have turned, every one, to his own way;
And the LORD has laid on Him the iniquity of us all.

He was oppressed and He was afflicted,
Yet He opened not His mouth;
He was led as a lamb to the slaughter,
And as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
So He opened not His mouth.

He was taken from prison and from judgment,
And who will declare His generation?
For He was cut off from the land of the living;
For the transgressions of My people He was stricken.

And they made His grave with the wicked—
But with the rich at His death,
Because He had done no violence,
Nor was any deceit in His mouth.

Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise Him;
He has put Him to grief.
When You make His soul an offering for sin,
He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days,
And the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in His hand.

He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied.
By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many,
For He shall bear their iniquities.

Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great,
And He shall divide the spoil with the strong,
Because He poured out His soul unto death,
And He was numbered with the transgressors,
And He bore the sin of many,
And made intercession for the transgressors.





But Jesus said to him, Follow Me

And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.

Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.

You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
I do not receive honor from men.
But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you.


For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.

I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.

For I have come down from heaven

Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.

I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?


I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness.

Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.

If you love Me, keep My commandments.

Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.


These things I command you, that you love one another.
If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you.
If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

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Jesus is God's Son. (John 3:16)
Jesus was created by God. (Colossians 1:15)

God is not Jesus. Jesus is not God.

Jesus prayed to God.

Jesus worshipped God.

Jesus died. God cannot die.
God resurrected Jesus.
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"Behold, I send My messenger,
And he will prepare the way before Me.
And the Lord, whom you seek,
Will suddenly come to His temple
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Even the Messenger of the covenant,
In whom you delight.
Behold, He is coming,"
Says the LORD of hosts.

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JESUS is GOD.
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And My name is blasphemed continually every day.
Therefore My people shall know My name;
Therefore they shall know in that day
That I am He who speaks:
'Behold, it is I.'

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Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.

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God with us.
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
Amos 3:7 WYC
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Jesus is God's Son. (John 3:16)
Jesus was created by God. (Colossians 1:15)

God is not Jesus. Jesus is not God.

Jesus prayed to God.

Jesus worshipped God.

Jesus died. God cannot die.
God resurrected Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54935987


Colossians 1:15
Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

Now go to 1:18
Colossians 1:18
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.


Revelation 1:5
And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,

First born from the dead.

He was First as GOD and came during the chosen time period to be a sacrifice and die for us. As then again was First born by rising from the dead.
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Jesus is God's Son. (John 3:16)
Jesus was created by God. (Colossians 1:15)

God is not Jesus. Jesus is not God.

Jesus prayed to God.

Jesus worshipped God.

Jesus died. God cannot die.
God resurrected Jesus.
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Look up bible verses that support Christ's divinity. What you've posted doesn't disprove the other verses.
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Catholic talk radio.
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Jesus is God's Son. (John 3:16)
Jesus was created by God. (Colossians 1:15)

God is not Jesus. Jesus is not God.

Jesus prayed to God.

Jesus worshipped God.

Jesus died. God cannot die.
God resurrected Jesus.
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John 1:1 "... and the Word was God."


His flesh died. The Spirit never dies.
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Yeshua was a humble man who walked in love but was known to flip a table or two. He was/is the Word brought to life to tabernacle with us. He is the light,the way,the truth and was brought here to show his people the way to everlasting life.

So I'm the beggining was the Word or the logos/idea or Torah. His eternal word manifested into life. People did not accept him because he was of flesh and they expected a king with a sword and got a humble man on a donkey.

They mocked him, they spat on him, they killed his flesh. Only a remnant made it then and only a remnant makes it now. His sheep know his voice and they follow him.
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I'm God your God we're all God. The Name of God is Jesus. Sound the trumpets
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I'm God your God we're all God. The Name of God is Jesus. Sound the trumpets
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No.
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
Amos 3:7 WYC
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Haha God doesn't exist, which means that you don't exist. What's so difficult about it?
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Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.


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I have a question.

How can jesus see anything if G-d says the servant is blind?
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No, I can't comprehend or accept that a human man is actually God. That would make God so small and limited in concept. But maybe that's all some people are able to grasp, that God is a human person living in the sky above earth. I have to accept that I guess.
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Hey, we're all God. Even God says so.

“Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." – Psalm 82:6


"When goodness grows weak,
When evil increases,
I make myself a body.
In every age I come back
To deliver the holy,
To destroy the sin of the sinner,
To establish righteousness."

Krishna, Bhagavad Gita
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Jesus states over 180 times of His relationship to the Father, that He is the Son.

Yet you people IGNORE what Jesus said, basically calling Jesus a LIAR.


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John 3:16 (KJV) For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Jesus states several time He only does the Father's Will...here's just one.

John 5:19 (KJV) Then answered Jesus and said unto them,Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

Other translations of 5:19...

[link to www.biblestudytools.com]

Several other noteworthy verses...

John 4:34 (KJV) Jesus saith unto them,My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

John 5:30 (KJV) I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 6:38 (KJV) For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

John 6:40 (KJV) For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day."

John 6:44 (KJV) No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

John 8:28 (KJV) Then said Jesus unto them,When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

John 8:38 I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

John 8:42 (KJV) Jesus said unto them,If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.

John 8:49 (KJV) Jesus answered,I have not a devil; but I honour my Father, and ye do dishonour me.

John 10:15 (KJV) As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

John 12:49 (KJV) For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

John 14:28 (KJV) Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

John 14:31 (KJV) But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

John 16:16 A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.

John 16:28 (KJV) I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

Matthew 16:16-17 (KJV) 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 26:39 (KJV) And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying,O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.

ALL of John 17...which is Jesus praying to the Father

1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said,Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
4 I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.
5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.
6 I have manifested thy name unto the men which thou gavest me out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word.
7 Now they have known that all things whatsoever thou hast given me are of thee.
8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
9 I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me; for they are thine.
10 And all mine are thine, and thine are mine; and I am glorified in them.
11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are.
12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
13 And now come I to thee; and these things I speak in the world, that they might have my joy fulfilled in themselves.
14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
25 O righteous Father, the world hath not known thee: but I have known thee, and these have known that thou hast sent me.
26 And I have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them.

I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Here's a real challenge for you folks.

Take a red letter Bible (highlights Jesus' own words).

Then take a yellow or chartruese highlighter and mark ALL the times Jesus says...

"Father"
"sent me"

You will refuse to do that too, as it will show you just how wrong you are.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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Jesus is God's Son. (John 3:16)
Jesus was created by God. (Colossians 1:15)

God is not Jesus. Jesus is not God.

Jesus prayed to God.

Jesus worshipped God.

Jesus died. God cannot die.
God resurrected Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54935987


John 1:1 "... and the Word was God."


His flesh died. The Spirit never dies.
 Quoting: Petrus


Matthew 16:16-17 (KJV) 16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God.
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But Jesus said to him,
For I have come down from heaven




That our limited finite minds cannot understand and comprehend the infinite unlimited Trinity of God does not disprove that Jesus is God, as Thomas said to Him.

The Almighty Creator can easily come to us as one of us to show Himself to us in the only way that we can really understand without becoming not God.

The Almighty Creator God did not cease being God when He also came to us as one of us with us.

Faith.

You deny God because God does not conform to your mere limited finite physical mental capacity?!

How could God possibly NOT vastly exceed your ability to comprehend?!
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Absolute bsflag
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BS
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Those are not the words of Jesus, or of anyone that ever met him.

You can't name any of the authors you quote...
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He lowered Himself...
then He Ascended...
then All Power was given to Him...

He has All Power.
What does that mean?
Do you claim to believe in Jesus?
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Jesus is God's Son. (John 3:16)
Jesus was created by God. (Colossians 1:15)

God is not Jesus. Jesus is not God.

Jesus prayed to God.

Jesus worshipped God.

Jesus died. God cannot die.
God resurrected Jesus.
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Liar! Repent read Isaiah 9:6
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No, I can't comprehend or accept that a human man is actually God. That would make God so small and limited in concept. But maybe that's all some people are able to grasp, that God is a human person living in the sky above earth. I have to accept that I guess.
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But Jesus said to him,
For I have come down from heaven



The Almighty Creator can easily come to us as one of us to show Himself to us in the only way that we can really understand without becoming not God.

The Almighty Creator God did not cease being God when He also came to us as one of us with us.


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But Jesus said to him,
For I have come down from heaven




That our limited finite minds cannot understand and comprehend the infinite unlimited Trinity of God does not disprove that Jesus is God, as Thomas said to Him.

The Almighty Creator can easily come to us as one of us to show Himself to us in the only way that we can really understand without becoming not God.

The Almighty Creator God did not cease being God when He also came to us as one of us with us.

Faith.

You deny God because God does not conform to your mere limited finite physical mental capacity?!

How could God possibly NOT vastly exceed your ability to comprehend?!
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Saying that part of God's spirit or essence entered and inhabited the body of Jesus during his mission on earth is much different than saying Jesus IS God. There is no way the entire being of God became encased in Jesus' tiny human body. There is no point in saying Jesus is God because it just isn't true. It's blasphemy and idolatry and stupidity.
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But Jesus said to him,

For I have come down from heaven




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Denier of the Divinity of Jesus Christ that claims to be a Believer in Jesus Christ,

What do you say to this?

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Fucking thumpers...

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Fucking thumpers...
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Is your ignorance and insult some virtue?





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