--- Yahweh is a DEMON

I actually had not read the thread until a few minutes ago. Your delusions of granduer, of being this magnificent prophet of the evil "god," of suffering, seem to be pulling your deeper into the pit your own self created illusion.


I am not interested in your "secret manna" that you attempt to egotistically hold above our heads. Whether you can decode the supposedly hidden messages or not, it makes no difference to myself, and many others, who can see clearly the vile monstrosity of the Bible and it's evil "god."

Your Bible of suffering, which you believe and hold, in your apparent insanity, as the book of a Divine being, was used as a dictate and excuse to deceive, torture, and kill COUNTLESS people. I am not interested in your evil "god," of torture, enslavement, suffering, pain, murder, deceit, theivery, genocide, and EVIL.


I know in my heart that, very soon, everyone will get exactly what they deserve. It is our intentions which are important. Those who truly Love Truth will be justly rewarded.



If anyone has only recently come upon this thread, i hope that they would read the original post and come to a decision themselves.

I hope any readers will read the original post.

THE JURISDICTION OF DARKNESS

The jurisdiction of darkness is the rule of the Adversary. In Colossians 1:13, it is the opposite state to the kingdom of the Son of God's love. Here Satan is being given authority to do whatever he will, and nothing is spared from the afflictions of Christ.

Indeed, from this moment everything seemed to be going right for Satan. He claimed Peter, the chief of the apostles, and Jesus had not disputed his claim, but instead prayed that Peter's faith might not be defaulting. In the event, Peter renounced his Master three times. All the ten remaining apostles forsook Jesus in His hour of trial, and fled. Jesus was given up to be forsaken on the dreadful cross even by God Himself. Was not this Satan's greatest triumph? Yet in all this Satan was only carrying out God's intention, unknowingly, of course, or he would not have done it, and the word of the cross becomes both the power of God and the wisdom of God, for it becomes the basis of both salvation and reconciliation.

When God gave up His Son to the jurisdiction of Satan. He gave up all, seeing that all has its cohesion in the Son of God's love, as we read in Colossians 1 : 17 (CV.). Cohesion is the opposite of disruption. When the Son of God was crucified, that which kept the universe together, and gave all creation a reason for its existence and an outlook for the future—all that was extinguished. In human terms, God risked all when He gave up His Son. Nothing would have delighted the Adversary more than to have destroyed completely the purpose of God; and with the destruction of Him around Whom that purpose was built, and in Whom all had its cohesion, and for Whom all was intended—all is created through Him and for Him (Col. 1 : 17)—with the destruction of this One, Satan seemed to have secured a complete triumph. But such is the supremacy of God that He can turn even the Adversary's fury into praise for himself. In the experience of the cross, above all else in Scripture, we can see that Satan, the chief exponent of evil, can only be an instrument in God's hands. His greatest act of opposition can only further God's purpose.

SATAN CANNOT WITHSTAND GOD'S INTENTION

Satan never thwarts God's plans: instead, God uses him in carrying out His plans, as has been shown. A look at the book of Job will show that Satan does whatever God intends him to do. And if we are to take the record in Job as a model, he does not do more than God allows him to do. God gave him authority to afflict Job, but told him to spare his life, and Satan obeyed implicitly. He afflicted Job and spared his life. In the temptation in the wilderness, Satan did just what God had purposed him to do, when he tested Jesus. The Scriptures say that Jesus "was led by the spirit into the wilderness to be tried by the Adversary" (Matt.4:1). When the period of testing was over, Jesus told him only once to go away, and immediately Satan left Him.

It is admitted by all that when messengers came to Christ after Satan left Him, they were doing just what God had told them to do. This is true. But it is also true that, in testing Jesus, the Adversary was doing just what God intended him to do. When we attribute false values to the Adversary, we also attribute false values to God, for we assume that the Adversary is operating independently of God, and that God cannot have it otherwise. The fact remains that the Lord God is the Lord God of the Adversary (though Satan would not acknowledge this), for the Lord Jesus quoted to him the words of Deuteronomy (6:16), "You shall not be putting on trial the Lord your God" (Mat.4:7, Luke 4:12).

Satan is a slanderer, but much of Christendom (including many of its clergymen) is slandering the slanderer, and, in doing so, is also slandering, maligning God. If we assume that the Adversary operates independently of God and that God is not having him (the Adversary) do the things that he is doing, it is evident that we would be guilty of blaspheming the Holy Spirit, and would be subject to the penalty therefore, were it not for the precious truth of Justification. The members of the ecclesia which is the body of Christ (Eph.1:22, 23: 2:13-16; Col.1:13 and 24) are extricated from this entanglement, for they are "saved in grace, through faith," and this is not of themselves, but is the gift of God, and so not of works (Eph.2:8). Justified through the faith of Christ (Rom.3:21-23, Gal.2:16 and 3:14), the members of the ecclesia are complete in Christ (Col.2:10). To the ecclesia, in spirit, "the consummation of the eons have attained" (1 Cor.10:11). The believers were, "entombed together with Him through baptism into death" (Rom.6:4), and, "being entombed together with Him in baptism," God "vivifies us together jointly with Him, dealing graciously with all our offences. . " (Col.2:12, 13). The resultant position is: "Nothing, consequently, is now condemnation to those in Christ Jesus . . ." (Rom.8:1). Hence, those who are "in Christ Jesus" cannot do anything that will add to, or subtract from, anything that they are or have in Christ Jesus.

Yet, in the light of such Scriptures as these, and many others, there are teachers in Christendom who tell us not to commit that sin, which, if committed, will not be pardoned "neither in this world, neither in the world to come." (Matt.12:32—see also Mark 3:29). The truth is thus ignored that those who are "in Christ Jesus" have been justified, which is greater, by far, than forgiveness.

THE UNPARDONABLE SIN

That which is usually termed "the unpardonable sin"—blasphemy "against the Holy Spirit"—is the attributing of the work of God's spirit (as this was manifest in the works of God wrought by the Lord Jesus—John 5:36; 9:4; 14:10; etc) to demonic power. To say that the Adversary acted quite independently of God—and of God's intention—in the introducing of sin and estrangement into the universe, is, really, to sin against the Holy Spirit.

God brought the Adversary into being, for all is out of god Rom.11:36), and God had determined beforehand that sin and estrangement would enter the universe through the acts of the Adversary, but this fact must not be considered in isolation. God had also purposed His mighty work of salvation by way of the cross of His beloved Son and, in order to reveal the glory of His saving power in Christ Jesus, God required the dark background of sin and estrangement. God, Who Himself is love, could never have suffered His love to remain for ever unrevealed and unrequited. Had Satan, the Adversary, in introducing (through his activities) sin into the universe, acted in absolute independence of God, then he should be praised for bringing about the condition that gave God the opportunity to manifest His saving grace. God will not give His glory to another (Isaiah 42:8).

Until we are able to recognize the mighty power of God, "Who is operating all (and Satan is included in the "all") in accord with the counsel of His will" (Eph.1:11), we cannot avoid attributing to the Adversary what God achieves and will achieve. But this we must refrain from doing, being concerned always to ascribe all praise to God.

It should be known that Satan is not an intruder in God's universe, but rather holds, as the chief of the jurisdiction of the air, high office among God's celestial hosts. In the book of Job, he is referred to as "Satan" and in Hebrew this means "adversary." It is just as necessary that God should have an adversary in His government as it is that He should have any other officer. And adversary opposes, and Satan opposed Job, and thus God had an opportunity to show what His grace and compassion could accomplish for Job (see James 5:11). Without the Adversary, we would not have had the beautiful and uplifting story found in the book of Job. Indeed, had it not been for the Adversary, there would have been no "wisdom of this world" (1 Cor.1:20), against the dark backdrop of which is revealed the glory of Christ, Who is the power and wisdom of God, the universal Saviour (1 Cor.1:18-25).

If those who seek to expound the Scriptures would first of all realize and then proclaim that the Adversary, Satan, fills the role assigned to him (and required of him) by God, and that in that role he is subject to God's authority and control, and can go no further than the limits God has prescribed for him, then there would be less unease within the ranks of Christendom. We close with the words of Paul in Romans11:36:–

"O the depths of the riches and the wisdom and the knowledge of God. . . "Out of Him and through Him and for Him is all. To Him be glory for the eons! Amen!" (Rom. 11:36)

This is great example of how incredibly evil the demon "god," of the Bible is. Considering, as you say, that Satan is a mechanism of the "god," of the material universe (as well as his creation), "god," plunders Job's (a supposedly just man) belongings, tortures and kills his servants and animals, tortures and kills his family, and gives him torturous boils all over his body. Job, even one faithful to the evil "god," explains that...



It is obvious that this egotistical, deranged being is a demon!

Its not over yet so I would say that your judgment is premature.

Remember all we have is our finite ability to see black and white, right and wrong, good and evil, according to the perceptions given to us.

Unless you think you are wiser than God, even if you think YHWH is a demon, then you must certainly still agree that He is of a much higher intelligence than you and I are in these bodies of clay, trapped in this 3d realm.

Purpose in all things: Light, Dark, Good and Evil! I like it!

Lmao at Monty Python TwinkleToes!

The bible is being miss interpreted, and you people don't even know it, now that's truly, satan, the antichrist, are you and you believe it to be someone else, the whole earth is wicked, and you say not me, everyone has an excuse. Why, not just repent, instead, of rebelling against the HOLY SPIRIT, O I forgot, you don't know what the Holy Spirit, is. Since your being lead by false christs, false teachers, and false leaders, DENY THE TRUTH, you and your leader's are good at that! The whole human race is possessed

All I can say to this lie is that Jesus Christ is just and He will set the record straight. If you don't know Him, you'll never understand! But He sent Jesus so we can all be saved from damnation because of sin...He actually loves all of us...even those who say stupid things like OP said. But hey...he's patient...I said stupid things before I came to know Jesus Christ and now I have a lot more respect for our Great Creator!

BTW: He is not a rebellious fallen angel...He is the creator of all...and I can understand punishment for rape, adultry, or other sins that cause people pain and suffering...you think a being is evil because He protects the righteous?? May be you are listening to too many demons..??

God told me to post this forgive me if it offends.

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higher intelligence, most likely...bigger heart, I leave to speculation.

MY reality has nothing to do with YOUR reality.(whoever 'you' are)

but when some dumb mother fucker decides to step on MY folks and MY own,(including good friends)then it is time to put said 'demon' in its place.

Ive met humans and Ive met other worldlys...

How hard IS it to spot a dickhead, really? Species is speculative, if you ask me...dickheads are a certainty..

Let's bring this down a notch...suppose there's this woman. She LOVES her man. I mean LOVES him at any cost, including her kids...(1st clue of selfishness)

HE decides that HER love is a wonderful thing..and proceeds to tell her that the kids don't 'fit into the plan'

there's your second clue.

It's all about the Golden Rule. I herby announce here and forever..that said 'GOLDEN RULE' bypasses, overtalks, outwits,takes-over,puts-to-shame, and gets rid of...all other rules.

For those that read Jesus? what is that Golden Rule? Treat others as you would have them treat you." (Insert American Lawyers, warmongers...and 1 gazillion excuses)....and yet, none of them can ever compete with what is golden...but By GOD they'll try...if that price is right.

Quit blaming your parents for your woes...you will have your own woes to own. They'll probably die before you and THEN what? Quit blaming your kids....they didnt ask to be here.

...you owe your kids EVERYthing(Within reason, dont spoil 'em) and you parents NOTHING(meaning your birth had nothing to do with you, therefore it means, your CHOICE on your respect for them) and stop assuming that the asshole that cut you off in line while driving had an agenda against you personally today...chances are good HE is blaming YOU for the exact same thing..and so the vicious cycle goes...


and finally, may WHOEVER IS IN CHARGE, not blame me for my silly philosophical shit...as I have NO answers. Only pleas for sanity in an insane world.

Is that even possible?

oh, and thank God for corn on the cob...it brings us all together!

"oh, and thank God for corn on the cob...it brings us all together! "

Nice! I need an Indian on his stolen land with a owned stamp too! You inspire me twinkletoes.

Phoenix 2012 thanks for making sense in a freaking insane world...I do so enjoy your posts..

ps i stand by my OWN insanity hertowith inserted, cause to ME it makes sense.

and until someone else pays my bills, I get to OWN my opinions.....and ta HELL with the rest..I even like opinions that severely contradict my own.

Hey! doesnt that make me open minded?

He was made to be sin, to prove a point

"Hey! doesnt that make me open minded?"
Indeed it does my friend and is a primary learning attribute as far as i'm concerned.

and if I end up in heaven or hell it will be freakin hillarious!

lol

Many believers are blinded concerning the truth, even as Joseph's brethren were blinded. There are those who say that God did not have, and is not having, anything to do with Satan and his works. When we refer them to Joseph and ask, "Why did Joseph's brethren sell him?" they answer, "Because they hated him." This, of course, is true, but when we point out to them that in later years Joseph said to his brethren, "Therefore be not grieved, nor angry with yourselves, that ye sold me hither: for God did send me before you to preserve life" (Gen.45:5), they become confused, for they do not like to believe that God actually did evil to Joseph. They want to place all the blame on his brethren. Of course, God cannot be censured, but the truth is that Joseph's brethren did exactly what God intended them to do. There is no doubt that it was the Adversary who suggested their actions to them, but the Adversary belongs to God in the sense that God created him and can use him as He wills.

So, God used Satan, and Joseph's brethren, to preserve life. This seems strange, for the Adversary is a murderer, but God can, and does, use him for the opposite purpose whenever He pleases to do so.

That the Adversary is subordinate to God is proved by his obedience to the command of the Lord Jesus. When Jesus said to him, "Go away, Satan," he went without delay. He left Christ~ (Matt.4:11).



Concerning God, the Scriptures declare that "out of Him –and through Him –and for Him —is all" (Rom.11:36). He is omnipotent, omniscient, omnipresent and omniparous. That is, He is able to do all; He knows all; He is present everywhere at the same time; He is the producer of all.

If He is able to do all, then He is able to keep the Adversary from going contrary to His intentions, and He is able to have him do whatever is in accord with His intentions. If God knows all—even the end from the beginning (Isa.46:10)—then the Adversary has never deceived Him. God knew beforehand just what Satan was going to do at all times. If God is present everywhere at the same time, then Satan has never been able to hide from God. If God is the Producer of all, then He made the Adversary as well as everything else.

Yes, the great fact that is such an assurance and a comfort to us all is that God controls all evil. As Paul tells us in Ephesians 1 : 11, He is operating all in accord with the counsel of His will, and that all includes the evil as well as the good. In fact, He is able to turn all evil into good, and He is already doing this in our case. For we read in Roman's 8:28, "Now we are aware that God is working all together for the good of those who are loving God."

God is working all together, both good and evil, for our good. What about afflictions? Should these get us down? No, says Paul, for "in all these we are more than conquering through Him Who loves us." Besides, afflictions and tribulations work in us patience and testedness, and patience and testedness are producing experience and endurance, and experience and endurance are producing hope or expectation (Rom. 5:3-5). So we should be rejoicing and glorifying even in such adversities for we are like vessels being tried in the refiner's fire.

"God is moulding, like a potter,
Vessels to His Own desire,
But the products of his fingers
Must be hardened in the fire.
Or, as metals rare and precious
In the furnace are refined,
So from us the dross is melted,
Leaving only gold behind."

We, as members of that ecclesia, which is the body and complement of Christ, are called upon to suffer. Nevertheless, our sufferings in general are nowhere near as intense as those of Christ or of Paul. Few of us have been scourged, and no one reading this has been stoned or crucified, though assuredly some members of the body have been put to death. But if we have been spared the severity of the sufferings endured by the Lord and His apostle to the nations, it is not because Satan has taken pity on us, but rather because he is controlled. Do we all realize the debt we owe to the apostle Paul, who says, in Colossians 1 : 24, "I am now rejoicing in my sufferings for you, and am filling up in my flesh, in His stead, the deficiencies of the afflictions of Christ, for His body, which is the ecclesia of which I became a dispenser." Paul suffered inordinately at the hands of his enemies, who were undoubtedly motivated by Satan.

The days in which we live are evil, and violence is likely to increase as the time draws nearer for the return of the Lord, and the setting up of His kingdom on earth. Before this takes place, there will be a time of iniquity such as never has been known on earth before, nor ever will be known again. But Paul tells us that we are not appointed to indignation (1 Thess. 5:9).

God's indignation is directed against all unrighteousness of men. It is not, and cannot be, directed against the ecclesia, for its members are justified in God's sight, and nothing, consequently, is now condemnation to those in Christ Jesus, for they are a new creation (Compare Romans 8 : 1 with 2 Cor. 5 : 17). Paul tells us, in Ephesians 2 : 3, that we were once "in our nature, children of indignation, even as the rest," but this is no longer the case.

We await a Rescuer out of the coming indignation (1 Thess. 1:10), a Saviour Who will deliver us from the wrath to come. For God's indignation, as we said in the previous paragraph, is to be levelled against all unrighteousness, after which Christ will take up His Own great power and reign. Then the lion (and the tiger) will lie down in peace with the lamb, and a little child shall lead them.

Our hope and expectation is to be always together with the Lord in glory, telling of God's wonderful grace until all in heaven and earth is reconciled to Him. Then there will be no tigers, or serpents, as such, for evil will be no more, and those with evil propensities (including the Adversary himself) will have been changed. All is to be made subject to Christ, and the apostle is at great lengths to point out that the only One not made subject is God himself, since He is the One Who does all the subjecting (1 Cor. 15:25-28).

Then, when all has been made subject to Christ, the Son Himself becomes subject to God, that God, Who will put all under Him, may finally be All in all.

This is the goal of God's purpose--the goal to which all good and all evil have been moving.

"All is of God," says Paul on several occasions, and we rejoice that this is so, for it means that nothing is outside of His purpose or outside of His control. He is able to make all to be subject to Christ because He (God) has never lost any of this control. He is the Supreme. He is never taken by surprise. He never has to improvise or change anything because He has purposed and planned it all. He sees the end from the beginning. He is God, and beside Him there is none else, and each and all of His chosen ones are even now, and for ever, in His care and keeping, and nothing will befall them that is not for their wellbeing.

Indeed, it is true to say that all creation remains within the care and keeping of its Creator. The vessels which become marred never leave the hand of the Potter; they are marred while still in His hand. The lesson that was taught Jeremiah (Jer.18:4), though to be interpreted as relating to Israel, nevertheless embodies a principle which is sustained throughout the whole outworking of God's purpose. He holds all in the hollow of His hand, and though He may allow, and even cause, some of His creatures temporarily to turn away from Him, He never lets them go. That is why Paul can write in Romans 8:20, "For to vanity was the creation subjected, not voluntarily, but because of Him Who subjects it, in expectation that the creation itself, also, shall be freed from the slavery of corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God."

I suppose i don't know the "Jesus," who you imagine in your mind. The very idea that a "god," who supposedly "loves," us would damn us to be tortured eternally for not following his evil laws is an insane and wicked one.

I never claimed the creator of the material universe was a rebellious fallen angel. I stated that he was a demon, and explained why using the Bible. You can read my original post and see exactly what i based my conclusions on. If that is not suitable, i can provide you with many more examples of why i conclude this.

I ask you, how do you "protect the righteous," by torturously burning someone to death, or torturously stoning them to death, or killing infants, or torturing people with disease? How is it "protecting the righteous," by killing everyone, as well as the completely innocent animals, in an entire village, if just one of it's inhabitants worships a different god?


I feel it is you who is clearly listening to demons by supporting and worshipping a being who commands and appreciates the massacre of infants, the exploit and torture of the innocent, and threatens eternal damnation and torture to those who don't follow his wicked laws.

A-FUCKING_MEN

Derick one seven.

You would be right Derek, and if this was the case then i would agree that YHWH was a demon.

But this is not the case.

Its how you are understanding things to be, that makes you draw this conclusion.

The question is, do you want to know the truth of the way things really are, or do you want to feed your bitter heart with more bitterness?

"For every man has more in common with the hills and with the stars than with other men. Other men do not supply our values. Other men do not matter in the way we have believed. Man is not alone. You could be the last man in the universe and you would not be alone."

– Edgar Rice Burroughs, Mind Parasites, 1969.

I am sorry, but anyone who takes such a book seriously is delusional. There is way too much sex, incest and murder in it for my liking.

The root of all unhappiness is our silent rage at having been born, at having life forced on us with no choice on our part.

Nobody, no matter how wealthy, healthy or loved, really wants to be alive on this shitty little planet. There are beautiful moments, like falling in love for the first time, but life is mostly about pain, fear, anxiety, depression, wage slavery, taxes and, finally, death.

I have friends and family and, on the whole, I've had a classically "successful" life. But I must honestly say that I have never liked people. I have NOTHING in common with my so-called "fellow" human beings.

I have to pretend that I like them: I would not have survived these last 55 years without such a pretense.

I have read every book on philosophy and religion you care to name. Words. Worthless words.

This life is meaningless. It really does have no purpose.

Replace the word 'book' with 'life'

"I am sorry, but anyone who takes such a 'life' seriously is delusional. There is way too much sex, incest and murder in it for my liking."

Does pretending something, that's true and real, to be false just because we don't like make it unreal or go away. So far I haven't been able to pretend reality away and I have a pretty wild imagination.

Just saying.

That is the test of faith.

You may think it is unfair however, the reward is incalculably great.

As You Like It (Omni #2)
30th September 2003
by Amitakh Stanford

The "war" between Light and Darkness has many facets. The pseudo-creation that the Dark Side is responsible for works on appearance, making things seem what they are not. For instance, the Earth is a hollow planet. Although the appearance of the Earth is vast, in fact, it is a shell. It would be considerably smaller if it were a solid sphere.

Since the posting of the first Omni, where it was asserted that ". . . power outages are planned for various parts of the world" by the Dark Side, many major power outages have occurred in places such as England, Malaysia, Denmark, Sweden, Italy and France. Many others have occurred that have not been reported and more power outages will continue.

These outages are happening at the direction of the major alien groups associated with the Dark Side that have primary control of the geo-political aspects of the Earth. These aliens need energy/power desperately, as they are woefully short of it, and they need it to maintain the magnetic field around the Earth. As stated in Omni #1, the Earth's magnetic field is deteriorating rapidly and will collapse beyond repair if it is not supplemented with massive amounts of electrical energy.

The Earth spins rapidly on its axis, which creates a dynamo effect that generates electricity that flows through the conductive materials in the Earth's core. The resulting effect of this motion is a strong electromagnetic field. Many refer to this field as the Earth's magnetic field.

The Earth's electromagnetic field is rapidly weakening for many reasons. The content of the core of the Earth is relatively constant, as is the speed of its rotation on its axis, so those factors are not the ones responsible for the deterioration of the electromagnetic field. The two main factors for the decline in the field were mentioned in Omni #1 (the heating up of the sun and the evacuation of Light particles). The Light particles (beings) have been trapped and abused by the Dark Side to augment the energy on the Earth which the Dark Side uses to help maintain and regulate the electromagnetic field of the Earth.

Although the spinning "generator" is still in working order, the Earth is now desperately short of power because of the heating up of the sun and the removal of its supplemental power supply of many Light particles. As the magnetic field deteriorates the Earth will dissipate. Additionally, as the magnetic field collapses, the Virtual Reality within the multitude of other Virtual Realities will begin to fracture. This means that more and more people will be able to see through this fraudulent existence.

The evil aliens have worked surreptitiously and nefariously for a long, long, long time on this planet. Without being detected, they have stolen energy from various sources in the past to help maintain the Virtual Reality....

More of ths article here [link to www.xeeatwelve.net]
© 2003 Dr. Amitakh Stanford & AHSAF

The human mind reasons that something better -- a reward -- MUST surely compensate for the pain of this life.

I do not agree. That life is meaningless is self-evident. It is not an heroic experience. We only rationalise it so because it is in our nature to always look for a NARRATIVE.

The narrative is in your head. It is inconclusive, ultimately upon your death.

When I finally came to accept that life, all life, is meaningless, I experienced a profound LIBERATION of thought, and now see things much more clearly.

The world keeps on turning. Lots of different narratives day in and day out: war, economics, religious stuff, public discourse, elections, company takeovers, strange weather, happy people, dead people ..... None of it matters. It's all just BACKGROUND muzak.

The muzak, which came into your head causing pain and unhappiness at birth, stops when you die. Show over. Bye, bye.

The Christian concept of eternal life? Oh boy, no thanks! I really don't want to live forever in somebody else's MUZAK.