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I Witnessed Micro-Evolution ...

 
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Kind of reminds me how a few times I have seen birds on the road stand on the center line as if they know its safe.
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Evolution with intelligent design would allow for the two sexes, but for those that are retarded and don't believe in God, evolution would produce asexual organisms and there wouldn't be such variety.
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why would intelligent design have to be involved for there to be two sexes?
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Logic, Occam's razor.
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Evolution with intelligent design would allow for the two sexes, but for those that are retarded and don't believe in God, evolution would produce asexual organisms and there wouldn't be such variety.
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why would intelligent design have to be involved for there to be two sexes?
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Logic, Occam's razor.
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ah so you dont have an answer.
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Evolution with intelligent design would allow for the two sexes, but for those that are retarded and don't believe in God, evolution would produce asexual organisms and there wouldn't be such variety.
 Quoting: BRIEF


why would intelligent design have to be involved for there to be two sexes?
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Logic, Occam's razor.
 Quoting: BRIEF


ah so you dont have an answer.
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Yes, that is the answer, I'm not going to hold your hand and think for you.
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why would intelligent design have to be involved for there to be two sexes?
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Logic, Occam's razor.
 Quoting: BRIEF


ah so you dont have an answer.
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Yes, that is the answer, I'm not going to hold your hand and think for you.
 Quoting: BRIEF


that's not an answer. that's a cop out when you dont have anything to back up your claim.

there is no logic in that you would need intelligent design to have two sexes. in fact you would think it would be just the opposite. efficiency and all....

also, you didnt answer before....do you know what a species is? you seem to think that insects and cats are the difference between species.
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probably not. it took them a LONG time to come from crustaceans
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Then He said go forth and multiply, each to their own kind. There is NO macro evolution, one species to another.
 Quoting: BRIEF


grasshopper is not a species. grasshoppers have many species. speciation is macroevolution when 1 species evolves into another species. There are 11,000 known species of grasshoppers.
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No, they are all still a grasshopper, therefore micro-evolution. Macro would be if the grasshopper turned into a dog.
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Do you consider crickets grasshoppers?
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A few years back all animals got a soul.

That serious changed them, they are sentient now.
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Animals have been sentient and intelligent long before then.
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1. Insects don't even have a nervous system, let alone a brain. They are not and can not be sentient.

2. Animals are not intelligent. They are resourceful and determined, but not intelligent.
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1. You are completely incorrect.
2. You are less intelligent than some animals I know.
3. Books. Learn to read them.
4. Eyes. Open them.

Jesus Dude. 5 seconds of google shows you are a moran.
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Then He said go forth and multiply, each to their own kind. There is NO macro evolution, one species to another.
 Quoting: BRIEF


grasshopper is not a species. grasshoppers have many species. speciation is macroevolution when 1 species evolves into another species. There are 11,000 known species of grasshoppers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75072827


No, they are all still a grasshopper, therefore micro-evolution. Macro would be if the grasshopper turned into a dog.
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Do you consider crickets grasshoppers?
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nevermind i misread. crickets are in the same order as grasshoppers.
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Logic, Occam's razor.
 Quoting: BRIEF


ah so you dont have an answer.
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Yes, that is the answer, I'm not going to hold your hand and think for you.
 Quoting: BRIEF


that's not an answer. that's a cop out when you dont have anything to back up your claim.

there is no logic in that you would need intelligent design to have two sexes. in fact you would think it would be just the opposite. efficiency and all....

also, you didnt answer before....do you know what a species is? you seem to think that insects and cats are the difference between species.
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Don't waste your time. This one thinks using the word logic equates to actual logic. If he knew jack squat about evolution or logic, he wouldn't have made the statement. What he really means is, "I can't figure it out when there are more than 3 moving parts and no instructions".

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ah so you dont have an answer.
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Yes, that is the answer, I'm not going to hold your hand and think for you.
 Quoting: BRIEF


that's not an answer. that's a cop out when you dont have anything to back up your claim.

there is no logic in that you would need intelligent design to have two sexes. in fact you would think it would be just the opposite. efficiency and all....

also, you didnt answer before....do you know what a species is? you seem to think that insects and cats are the difference between species.
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Don't waste your time. This one thinks using the word logic equates to actual logic. If he knew jack squat about evolution or logic, he wouldn't have made the statement.
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tards need to know they are tards
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why would you say micro-evolution? there is no other type of evolution
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Creationists are more comfortable with the micro-evolution, not as much cognitive dissonance involved
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Logic, Occam's razor.
 Quoting: BRIEF


ah so you dont have an answer.
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Yes, that is the answer, I'm not going to hold your hand and think for you.
 Quoting: BRIEF


that's not an answer. that's a cop out when you dont have anything to back up your claim.

there is no logic in that you would need intelligent design to have two sexes. in fact you would think it would be just the opposite. efficiency and all....

also, you didnt answer before....do you know what a species is? you seem to think that insects and cats are the difference between species.
 Quoting: Oysterhead


You quoted someone else and put my name under it, go back and see, you are fucking stupid.
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ah so you dont have an answer.
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Yes, that is the answer, I'm not going to hold your hand and think for you.
 Quoting: BRIEF


that's not an answer. that's a cop out when you dont have anything to back up your claim.

there is no logic in that you would need intelligent design to have two sexes. in fact you would think it would be just the opposite. efficiency and all....

also, you didnt answer before....do you know what a species is? you seem to think that insects and cats are the difference between species.
 Quoting: Oysterhead


You quoted someone else and put my name under it, go back and see, you are fucking stupid.
 Quoting: BRIEF


yeah there was a miss quote back there.

so....what's a species?
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Ok for the two idiots here. If life crawled out of the ocean, logic would suggest there would be just one form of life and it would reproduce asexually, the same way Oyster and dead pool try to reproduce. Only when intelligent design enters the picture can there be greater complexity other than the simplest form (asexual reproduction). It's easy to see that God had fun creating all the different species, which is why there are billions instead of one...see, logic and Occam's razor.

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Yes, that is the answer, I'm not going to hold your hand and think for you.
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that's not an answer. that's a cop out when you dont have anything to back up your claim.

there is no logic in that you would need intelligent design to have two sexes. in fact you would think it would be just the opposite. efficiency and all....

also, you didnt answer before....do you know what a species is? you seem to think that insects and cats are the difference between species.
 Quoting: Oysterhead


You quoted someone else and put my name under it, go back and see, you are fucking stupid.
 Quoting: BRIEF


yeah there was a miss quote back there.

so....what's a species?
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Educate yourself, I'm not your teacher.
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Ok for the two idiots here. If life crawled out of the ocean, logic would suggest there would be just one form of life and it would reproduce asexually, the same way Oyster and dead pool try to reproduce. Only when intelligent design enters the picture can there be greater complexity other than the simplest form (asexual reproduction). It's easy to see that God had fun creating all the different species, which is why there are billions instead of one...see, logic and Occam's razor.
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WHY BRIEF?

just repeating yourself doesnt make it anymore true
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Ugh! I hate grasshoppers. Scary looking bugs
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that's not an answer. that's a cop out when you dont have anything to back up your claim.

there is no logic in that you would need intelligent design to have two sexes. in fact you would think it would be just the opposite. efficiency and all....

also, you didnt answer before....do you know what a species is? you seem to think that insects and cats are the difference between species.
 Quoting: Oysterhead


You quoted someone else and put my name under it, go back and see, you are fucking stupid.
 Quoting: BRIEF


yeah there was a miss quote back there.

so....what's a species?
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Educate yourself, I'm not your teacher.
 Quoting: BRIEF


if you don't know it's ok
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Down here in the valley beside the Savannah River we have these odd grasshopper/crickets that live in the area. They don't live above the valley, and I had never seen them before moving here.

They start as little dark/black hoppers with a red-stripe down their backs, fish, birds, or chickens won't eat them. They definitely get on plants and eat them, and my neighbors just pop their heads off blink but I have never been able to do that. Over the years I've just pulled them off my veggie plants and toss them over the fence into a yard that is rarely even mowed, much less cultivated.

The first years my veggies had some damage, the second year, less, by the fourth year I barely even saw a bite in my squash, tomato, or cucumber leaves. The things grow almost as big as toads toward the end of summer, and then die, and the process happens over again.

My point is that it would seem over the five years they have learned I'm not an enemy. The other day my new big pup was chasing one, and the hopper was close to the fence heading to the street, and stopped, turned, and then hopped over to me, crawling up my pant leg - I scooped it up, and carried it to the same place that I always do and placed it on some leaves.

Now when I pick them up, they don't try to hop or fly away (they have weird red wings), and just want to hang out with me, lol.

Just found it interesting, and a little surreal how the hopper turned to me, instead of the escape a few inches away. I am a nature lover, obviously, but I found that pretty cool.

The pic below is mid-season before they get as huge as they do - you can see them in the street hopping and they look like toads by August.

:savannahbug:
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That really is an awesome experience!

I'm absolutely convinced that we don't give living things enough credit when it comes to their lives and experiences - my grandmother used to tell me about a cricket that she considered to be a pet - every time she went out and sat in the grass in her yard, a cricket would come to her and crawl into her hand - she said it got to the point where she learned how to feed that cricket! I never thought to ask her what she fed the cricket...wish I did! Also, was told a similar story of a girl and a cockroach that she kept in a small toothpick cage she made for the roach - she often left the cage door open and the cockroach would go in and out, but the cockroach "decided" to live in the cage because it formed a connection or "relationship" with the girl - my 1st class petty officer told me that one day he got sick of the roach and smashed it with a beer bottle - the girl grieved like she lost a cat or dog!

I believe we can "connect" and/or "communicate" with far more living things then we typically consider...even water, plants and trees...some things...perhaps not so much!
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Ok for the two idiots here. If life crawled out of the ocean, logic would suggest there would be just one form of life and it would reproduce asexually, the same way Oyster and dead pool try to reproduce. Only when intelligent design enters the picture can there be greater complexity other than the simplest form (asexual reproduction). It's easy to see that God had fun creating all the different species, which is why there are billions instead of one...see, logic and Occam's razor.
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WHY BRIEF?

just repeating yourself doesnt make it anymore true
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You don't seem to understand, so just accept it and move on.
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Btw...and for the record...micro-evolution means nothing if one is trying to correlate it to macro-evolution - species do not evolve into other species...like a cat becoming a dog or ape becoming a human!
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Less than...you know!

"...But let us give the evolutionist the benefit of every consideration. Assume that, at each mutational step, there is equally as much chance for it to be good as bad. Thus, the probability for the success of each mutation is assumed to be one out of two, or one-half. Elementary statistical theory shows that the probability of 200 successive mutations being successful is then (½)200, or one chance out of 1060. The number 1060, if written out, would be "one" followed by sixty "zeros." In other words, the chance that a 200-component organism could be formed by mutation and natural selection is less than one chance out of a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion! Lest anyone think that a 200-part system is unreasonably complex, it should be noted that even a one-celled plant or animal may have millions of molecular "parts."

"...All this means that the chance that any kind of a 200-component integrated functioning organism could be developed by mutation and natural selection just once, anywhere in the world, in all the assumed expanse of geologic time, is less than one chance out of a billion trillion. What possible conclusion, therefore, can we derive from such considerations as this except that evolution by mutation and natural selection is mathematically and logically indefensible!"
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probably not. it took them a LONG time to come from crustaceans
 Quoting: Oysterhead


Then He said go forth and multiply, each to their own kind. There is NO macro evolution, one species to another.
 Quoting: BRIEF


grasshopper is not a species. grasshoppers have many species. speciation is macroevolution when 1 species evolves into another species. There are 11,000 known species of grasshoppers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75072827


No, they are all still a grasshopper, therefore micro-evolution. Macro would be if the grasshopper turned into a dog.
 Quoting: BRIEF


But grasshopper is a nickname for the suborder Caelifera

which is under the order Orthoptera which contains the suborders Ensifera(Crickets) and suborder Caelifera (Grasshoppers)
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Rupert Sheldrake has proven that when you train or spend time with a species they have a sort of soul memory and now ALL future beings of that species have the new knowledge that the old ones had. So over time these bugs have learned in their "memories" that you are on their team.
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Btw...and for the record...micro-evolution means nothing if one is trying to correlate it to macro-evolution - species do not evolve into other species...like a cat becoming a dog or ape becoming a human!
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for the last time... DOG, CAT are NOT species. They are nicknames made by humans.
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Btw...and for the record...micro-evolution means nothing if one is trying to correlate it to macro-evolution - species do not evolve into other species...like a cat becoming a dog or ape becoming a human!
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for the last time... DOG, CAT are NOT species. They are nicknames made by humans.
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For the sake of this discussion, IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER! We all, except Oyster and his boyfriend dead pool, understand!!
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Less than...you know!

"...But let us give the evolutionist the benefit of every consideration. Assume that, at each mutational step, there is equally as much chance for it to be good as bad. Thus, the probability for the success of each mutation is assumed to be one out of two, or one-half. Elementary statistical theory shows that the probability of 200 successive mutations being successful is then (½)200, or one chance out of 1060. The number 1060, if written out, would be "one" followed by sixty "zeros." In other words, the chance that a 200-component organism could be formed by mutation and natural selection is less than one chance out of a trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion, trillion! Lest anyone think that a 200-part system is unreasonably complex, it should be noted that even a one-celled plant or animal may have millions of molecular "parts."

"...All this means that the chance that any kind of a 200-component integrated functioning organism could be developed by mutation and natural selection just once, anywhere in the world, in all the assumed expanse of geologic time, is less than one chance out of a billion trillion. What possible conclusion, therefore, can we derive from such considerations as this except that evolution by mutation and natural selection is mathematically and logically indefensible!"
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you can tell they have no idea what they are talking about

Since random changes in ordered systems almost always will decrease the amount of order in those systems, nearly all mutations are harmful to the organisms which experience them.
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every human has hundreds of new mutations that do not harm you.


evolution is on the population level. 200 successive mutations has nothing to do with evolution
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why would you say micro-evolution? there is no other type of evolution
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Macro-evolution convict!
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Rupert Sheldrake has proven that when you train or spend time with a species they have a sort of soul memory and now ALL future beings of that species have the new knowledge that the old ones had. So over time these bugs have learned in their "memories" that you are on their team.
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Rupert Sheldrake has proven that when you train or spend time with a species they have a sort of soul memory and now ALL future beings of that species have the new knowledge that the old ones had. So over time these bugs have learned in their "memories" that you are on their team.
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There's an experiment with flatworms that prove this through DNA memory...



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