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The Roman Catholic Church teach that salvation includes the Muslims.

 
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keep up the good work, you are doing a fine job fulfilling Obadiah 1
by being a stupid christian destroying christianity from within.

thats what happens when you believe a lie that is based on truth.
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keep up the good work, you are doing a fine job fulfilling Obadiah 1
by being a stupid christian destroying christianity from within.

thats what happens when you believe a lie that is based on truth.
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It is ALSO WRITTEN THAT THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE in JESUS CHRIST NAME HAVE ALREADY BEEN CONDEMNED. JOHN 3:18
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Muslims believe in Jesus. The Quran speaks highly of him. They just don't believe Jesus is God.
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Then who is this Jesus that they believe in?
What good is it to believe in another Jesus, another gospel and another spirit?
Vanity is what it is.
Of no profit.
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Opposite what Jesus and the Apostles taught
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They believe in Jesus as the Christ.
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Another Jesus
Another gospel
Another spirit
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While your catholic leaders are kowtowing to Mohammed. You seem to forget that even Benedict XVI warned for the rise of radical islam.

Francis I however:

The Pope may have said that to stop further violence. But since then, apologies to the Islamic world have become the official Vatican policy.

"The default positions vis-à-vis militant Islam are now unhappily reminiscent of Vatican diplomacy's default positions vis-à-vis communism during the last 25 years of the Cold War," wrote George Weigel, a US leading scholar. The Vatican's new agenda seeks "to reach political accommodations with Islamic states and foreswear forceful public condemnation of Islamist and jihadist ideology."

Ten years since the Regensburg lecture, relevant as ever after ISIS's attacks on European soil, another Pope, Francis I, has tried in many ways to separate Muslims and violence and always avoided mentioning that forbidden word: Islam. As Sandro Magister, one of Italy's most important journalists on Catholic issues, wrote: "In the face of the offensive of radical Islam, Francis's idea is that 'we must soothe the conflict'. And forget Regensburg."

The entire Vatican's diplomatic body today carefully avoids the words "Islam" and "Muslims," and instead embraces a denial that a clash of civilization exists. Returning from World Youth Day in Poland last August, Pope Francis denied that Islam itself is violent and claimed that the potential for violence lies within every religion, including Catholicism. Previously, Pope Francis said there is "a world war," but denied that Islam has any role in it.

The catholic church is obviously afraid in upsetting it's muslim partners.
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While your catholic leaders are kowtowing to Mohammed. You seem to forget that even Benedict XVI warned for the rise of radical islam.

Francis I however:

The Pope may have said that to stop further violence. But since then, apologies to the Islamic world have become the official Vatican policy.

"The default positions vis-à-vis militant Islam are now unhappily reminiscent of Vatican diplomacy's default positions vis-à-vis communism during the last 25 years of the Cold War," wrote George Weigel, a US leading scholar. The Vatican's new agenda seeks "to reach political accommodations with Islamic states and foreswear forceful public condemnation of Islamist and jihadist ideology."

Ten years since the Regensburg lecture, relevant as ever after ISIS's attacks on European soil, another Pope, Francis I, has tried in many ways to separate Muslims and violence and always avoided mentioning that forbidden word: Islam. As Sandro Magister, one of Italy's most important journalists on Catholic issues, wrote: "In the face of the offensive of radical Islam, Francis's idea is that 'we must soothe the conflict'. And forget Regensburg."

The entire Vatican's diplomatic body today carefully avoids the words "Islam" and "Muslims," and instead embraces a denial that a clash of civilization exists. Returning from World Youth Day in Poland last August, Pope Francis denied that Islam itself is violent and claimed that the potential for violence lies within every religion, including Catholicism. Previously, Pope Francis said there is "a world war," but denied that Islam has any role in it.

The catholic church is obviously afraid in upsetting it's muslim partners.
 Quoting: The King of Rock 'n Roll

The Hegelian formula is:

Thesis + Antithesis = Synthesis

Ex: Capitalism + Communism = World Governance (UN)

It is "integrating and uniting a set of contradictions without eliminating or reducing either one, to create a synthesis."

The Hegelian method was employed by writer Karl Marx, though few realize this. The current pope is actually a Marxist, as well as a Jesuit, who's motto is "order out of chaos".

This war with Islam is a controlled conflict and you are being manipulated like cattle. The elite are creating a predetermined history where a single power controls the conscience of the whole worldnope.

Instead of "the commies!!" it is now "the Muslims!"

Christianity + Islam = a compromise between the two (religious control/less freedom for us)


Thread: Islam, the papacy, Marxism, and the Hegelian Dialectic

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"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
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thirty 1*, obviously noone is interested in what you got to say OP. None besides you, russian creep and fag from Holland participate, oh and occasional Israeli.
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Includes yes....but by no means does it mean exalt above.

Key difference here. Some in the government are taking concepts of equality to promote inequality.
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thirty 1*, obviously noone is interested in what you got to say OP. None besides you, russian creep and fag from Holland participate, oh and occasional Israeli.
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The truth is not popular.
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
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God is the just judge and he will just each individual accordingly,
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According to what?
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The word which came unto Jeremiah from Yahweh in the days of Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah, saying, Go unto the house of the Rechabites, and speak unto them, and bring them into the house of Yahweh, into one of the chambers, and give them wine to drink. Then I took Jaazaniah the son of Jeremiah, the son of Habaziniah, and his brethren, and all his sons, and the whole house of the Rechabites; And I brought them into the house of Yahweh, into the chamber of the sons of Hanan, the son of Igdaliah, a man of God, which was by the chamber of the princes, which was above the chamber of Maaseiah the son of Shallum, the keeper of the door: And I set before the sons of the house of the Rechabites pots full of wine, and cups, and I said unto them, Drink ye wine. But they said, We will drink no wine: for Jonadab the son of Rechab our father commanded us, saying, Ye shall drink no wine, neither ye, nor your sons for ever: Neither shall ye build house, nor sow seed, nor plant vineyard, nor have any: but all your days ye shall dwell in tents; that ye may live many days in the land where ye be strangers. Thus have we obeyed the voice of Jonadab the son of Rechab our father in all that he hath charged us, to drink no wine all our days, we, our wives, our sons, nor our daughters; Nor to build houses for us to dwell in: neither have we vineyard, nor field, nor seed: But we have dwelt in tents, and have obeyed, and done according to all that Jonadab our father commanded us. But it came to pass, when Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon came up into the land, that we said, Come, and let us go to Jerusalem for fear of the army of the Chaldeans, and for fear of the army of the Syrians: so we dwell at Jerusalem. Then came the word of Yahweh unto Jeremiah, saying, Thus saith Yahweh of hosts, the God of Israel; Go and tell the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, Will ye not receive instruction to hearken to my words? saith Yahweh. The words of Jonadab the son of Rechab, that he commanded his sons not to drink wine, are performed; for unto this day they drink none, but obey their father's commandment: notwithstanding I have spoken unto you, rising early and speaking; but ye hearkened not unto me. I have sent also unto you all my servants the prophets, rising up early and sending them, saying, Return ye now every man from his evil way, and amend your doings, and go not after other gods to serve them, and ye shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers: but ye have not inclined your ear, nor hearkened unto me. Because the sons of Jonadab the son of Rechab have performed the commandment of their father, which he commanded them; but this people hath not hearkened unto me: Therefore thus saith Yahweh God of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring upon Judah and upon all the inhabitants of Jerusalem all the evil that I have pronounced against them: because I have spoken unto them, but they have not heard; and I have called unto them, but they have not answered.
And Jeremiah said unto the house of the Rechabites, Thus saith Yahweh of hosts, the God of Israel; Because ye have obeyed the commandment of Jonadab your father, and kept all his precepts, and done according unto all that he hath commanded you: Therefore thus saith Yahweh of hosts, the God of Israel; Jonadab the son of Rechab shall not want a man to stand before me for ever. (Jeremiah 35)
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The Rechabites refused to hearken unto Yahweh, even though they were offered the best seats in the temple, preferring the precepts of their father...
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thirty 1*, obviously noone is interested in what you got to say OP. None besides you, russian creep and fag from Holland participate, oh and occasional Israeli.
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The truth is not popular.
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Because the truth hurts.
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thirty 1*, obviously noone is interested in what you got to say OP. None besides you, russian creep and fag from Holland participate, oh and occasional Israeli.
1dunno1
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The truth is not popular.
 Quoting: Photine


Because the truth hurts.
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Yea I'm sure thats it. Catholics are shaking in their boots cause you three just trashed their believe. rolleyes
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thirty 1*, obviously noone is interested in what you got to say OP. None besides you, russian creep and fag from Holland participate, oh and occasional Israeli.
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The truth is not popular.
 Quoting: Photine


Because the truth hurts.
 Quoting: The King of Rock 'n Roll


Yea I'm sure thats it. Catholics are shaking in their boots cause you three just trashed their believe. rolleyes
 Quoting: Matjaz*


If the facts = trashing their beliefs then yeah..
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
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The truth is not popular.
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Because the truth hurts.
 Quoting: The King of Rock 'n Roll


Yea I'm sure thats it. Catholics are shaking in their boots cause you three just trashed their believe. rolleyes
 Quoting: Matjaz*


If the facts = trashing their beliefs then yeah..
 Quoting: Photine


Indeed. By knowing the facts one can make the right choice.
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Then who is this Jesus that they believe in?
What good is it to believe in another Jesus, another gospel and another spirit?
Vanity is what it is.
Of no profit.
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When Jesus met with the woman at the well and spent the weekend teaching her village about God He was just a prophet as John the Baptist was not yet in prison. Matthew and Mark pick the story up when John is in prison and Jesus became the High Priest at that time, before that He was acting as a Prophet. The teaching from that weekend would be where the Quran sprang from.
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Cardinal Burke: Christians and Muslims Do Not Worship The Same God

Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God because the Islamic god “is a governor,” and Islam is Sharia, the law “which comes from Allah” and which “must dominate every man eventually.”
“And it’s not a law that’s founded on love,” said Burke. “To say that we all believe in love is simply not correct.”
If we follow the relativistic idea that there is no real difference between Christian teachings and Islam, if we think we are all worshipping the same God, said Cardinal Burke, “ultimately it will be the end of Christianity.”

[link to www.cnsnews.com]


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thirty 1*, obviously noone is interested in what you got to say OP. None besides you, russian creep and fag from Holland participate, oh and occasional Israeli.
1dunno1
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Or someone is spamming her post, proxy-jumping.

Which is likely the case, considering how much hate she is receiving for exposing the Catholic Church. Nevertheless:

2 Thessalonians 2:3  Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
The Great Emergency - The Case For Sunday Laws: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

14 Prophetic Symbols Satan Doesn't Want YOU to Understand: [link to youtu.be (secure)]

A Sabbath for the Earth and the Poor: The Challenge of Pope Francis - [link to www.indcatholicnews.com]

“Arizona State Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, is under fire for suggesting that there should be a law that would make church attendance mandatory for Americans every Sunday.” --- [link to www.christianpost.com]
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thirty 1*, obviously noone is interested in what you got to say OP. None besides you, russian creep and fag from Holland participate, oh and occasional Israeli.
1dunno1
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Or someone is spamming her post, proxy-jumping.
 Quoting: DGenesis1:29


My threads are infested with different anonymous cowards who I keep banning and they keep changing their IPs.

In the words of the Don: It's rigged.

Last Edited by Photine on 06/17/2017 12:11 PM
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I even noticed the occassional threats towards her. I'm not surprised though. Afterall cowards behave like that.
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Bump.
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The RCC is destined to play a part in the tribulation...and yet, the papacy is also destined to be destroyed...


Seems to me it's story is progressing straight towards both of these fulfillments.
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Then who is this Jesus that they believe in?
What good is it to believe in another Jesus, another gospel and another spirit?
Vanity is what it is.
Of no profit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75089128

When Jesus met with the woman at the well and spent the weekend teaching her village about God He was just a prophet as John the Baptist was not yet in prison. Matthew and Mark pick the story up when John is in prison and Jesus became the High Priest at that time, before that He was acting as a Prophet. The teaching from that weekend would be where the Quran sprang from.
 Quoting: Wayfaring Stranger


Says who?
Islam?
You?
And why would you believe that ridiculous claim?
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"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day." (Catholic Catechism)

But the Bible states:

John 14:6 ...'I am the way the truth and the life; no man cometh to the Father BUT BY ME.'

And Muslims do not believe Jesus is the Son of God, and they do not believe in the Atonement (His sacrifice).
 Quoting: Photine


The Catholic Church is a malfunctioning institution headed by the black Pope.
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"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day." (Catholic Catechism)

But the Bible states:

John 14:6 ...'I am the way the truth and the life; no man cometh to the Father BUT BY ME.'

And Muslims do not believe Jesus is the Son of God, and they do not believe in the Atonement (His sacrifice).
 Quoting: Photine


The Catholic Church is a malfunctioning institution headed by the black Pope.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75019878


It's functioning just fine. It hasn't been started in ages though..
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The RCC is destined to play a part in the tribulation...and yet, the papacy is also destined to be destroyed...


Seems to me it's story is progressing straight towards both of these fulfillments.
 Quoting: Asymptote


The Beast will only be destroyed in the very end.
"For the Lord God shall not do anything, unless first he tell his secret, or his private plans to his servants, the prophets."
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The pontifex maximus ruling:
Islam has salvation
Judaoosmm has salvation
But Christians who reject the Catholic church do not

NWO religion (old world order recast as new)
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The pontifex maximus ruling:
Islam has salvation
Judaoosmm has salvation
But Christians who reject the Catholic church do not

NWO religion (old world order recast as new)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75110867


Bingo.
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keep up the good work, you are doing a fine job fulfilling Obadiah 1
by being a stupid christian destroying christianity from within.

thats what happens when you believe a lie that is based on truth.
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I always say, how can Catholics be Christian, and AntiChrist?
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TBL-opinion

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That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
With carrion men, groaning for burial." - Shakespeare

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TBL-opinion
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What is who's opinion?
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