The pope claims to be God on earth.

Argument invalid Romanist.

I'll take the trouble to copy and paste to respond.

1) The pope claims to be the successor of Peter, to be infallible, God on Earth, and to have the power of salvation.

Answer: I'll split it in points to make it easier.
A) Yes, he claims to be Peter's successor and he is.
B) Yes, he is infallible, and is infallible when he is teaching ex cathedra. I have the impression that you Protestants think that this papal infallibility is 100% all the time.
Let me give you an example: Paul VI's speech at the UN, in which he declares himself to be a doctor of humanities, is not infallible, because he did not pronounce himself as Pope.
C) NEVER, NO POPE, SAID THAT HE WAS GOD. NEVER. I'm going to stand here waiting for your source that certainly will not show up.
D) Never, no pope, said he has the power of salvation. I do not know where you're taking these things from. Once again I will await your source, and I would like you to present me with a primary source, not what a Protestant is saying of what he thinks is the doctrine of the Catholic Church.


2) Cardinal Sarto, who became Pope Pius X, said this:

"..The Pope represents Jesus Christ Himself."

Answer: Yes, he is right. The Pope is the REPRESENTATIVE of God on earth.
Honestly, I do not know why I'm wasting my time here trying to explain the difference between what it's like to be a representative and be the entity itself.
Do you know what a power of attorney is?
Do you know what a diplomat is?

3) In 1302 Pope Boniface said this in a letter to the Catholic Church:

"Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff."

Answer: Answer: Yes, and I agree with him. If he is the representative of God he is right.
It is the shepherd who follows the flock or is the flock that follows the shepherd.

4) The papal title Pontifex Maximus originated in the Babylon priesthood.

"The Pax Romana (Roman peace) has ceased; it is a universal confusion. But wherever a Bishop holds his court, religion protects all that is left of the ancient order. A new Rome ascends slowly above the horizon...

The Emperor is no more...but the Pontifex Maximus abides; he is now the Vicar of Christ, offering the old civilisation to the tribes of the North. He converts them to his creed, and they serve him as Father and Judge supreme." -William Barry's The Papal Monarchy

Answer: I have no idea what you're talking about, but here's a historical reference.
The Bishops who directed Churches in certain prominent cities were called METROPOLITAN; Later they were called PATRIARCHS. There were Patriarchs in Jerusalem, Antioch, Alexandria, Constantinople and Rome [capital of the Roman Empire] which was the main city of the West. The Bishop of Rome took the title of "PAI," which was later changed to "PAPA," in the year 304.

5) Pope Leo XIII said these things about the role of the Papacy and the Roman Church:

"Our thoughts went out towards the immense multitude of those who are strangers to the gladness that filled all Catholic hearts: some because they lie in absolute ignorance of the Gospel; others because they dissent from the Catholic belief, though they bear the name of Christians.

This thought has been, and is, a source of deep concern to Us; for it is impossible to think of such a large portion of mankind deviating, as it were, from the right path, as they move away from Us, and not experience a sentiment of innermost grief. But since We hold upon this earth the place of God Almighty.."

Answer: Yes, he is right. Is it just the Catholics who can be attacked? Can not Protestants?
What goes through your head when you call us idolaters?
My reaction may even seem aggressive but it is only aggressive to those who are stupid and do not understand the subject. Calling someone from idolater is a GREAT thing and you do it with an easy tongue.
It is for these and other reasons that you Protestants offend so easily, because you do not know what you are talking about.

Thread: The Vatican has murdered 70 million human beings.

In 1302 Pope Boniface said this in a letter to the Catholic Church:

"Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff."

In 1512 Christopher Marcellus said this to Pope Julius II:

Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, for thou art our shepherd, thou art our physician, thou art our governor, thou art our husbandman, thou art finally another God on earth"

Pope Leo XIII said this:

"But the supreme teacher in the Church is the Roman Pontiff. Union of minds, therefore, requires, together with a perfect accord in the one faith, complete submission and obedience of will to the Church and to the Roman Pontiff, as to God Himself."

Pope John Paul II wrote:

"Have no fear when people call me the "Vicar of Christ," when they say to me "Holy Father," or "Your Holiness," or use titles similar to these, which seem even inimical to the Gospel."

In 1996, Pope John Paul II said you could call the pope "Lord" and "Christ on earth":

"we readily understand the devotion of Saint Francis of Assisi for "the Lord Pope",the daughterly outspokenness of Saint Catherine of Siena towards the one whom she called "sweet Christ on earth", the apostolic obedience and the sentire cum Ecclesia of Saint Ignatius Loyola,and the joyful profession of faith made by Saint Teresa of Avila: "I am a daughter of the Church"

Peter is not the "corner stone" of the church, Jesus is.

Peter himself preached this:

4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.

6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.

7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,

8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

1 Peter 2:4-8 King James Version (KJV)

Jesus has Authority, even Peter admits this.

Thread: The Catholic St Peter is actually the pagan god Jupiter, cleverly disguised.

You are exalting an idol of Jupiter passed off as the Biblical Peter over Christ when you say that the Pope is the successor of Peter.

"For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ." 1 Corinthians 3:11

"That Rock was Christ." 1 Corinthians 10:4

"Truly my soul waiteth upon God: from him cometh my salvation.

"He only is my rock and my salvation; he is my defence; I shall not be greatly moved." Psalm 62:1-2

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Separated and hateful brethren: The time will come when you will stand before the Lord and have to answer for the bald-faced, disgraceful lies you have perpetuated about His Church, His Mother, and His Vicar on Earth. You seemingly prefer to remain in a state of ignorance, which is exceeded only by your arrogance. Maybe your anti-Catholic trolling is merely an amusing pastime for you, but your eternal salvation is no joke. Cease, desist and repent now, and may God have mercy on your souls when your judgment time arrives.

Ephesians 5:11

Have NOTHING to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather EXPOSE THEM.

Paul, Peter, and David think Jesus is the Rock upon which the church of Christ is founded.

Your Peter is not the Biblical Peter, and your Christ is not the Biblical Christ, either.

The Roman Catholic Church is the Great Counterfeit Church..

"And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH." -Revelation 17:5







"Be not afraid of the king of Babylon, of whom ye are afraid; be not afraid of him, saith the LORD: for I am with you to save you, and to deliver you from his hand." -Jeremiah 42:11

Yes, I just did that.

He taking from black man.Krackas think us put down not funny.the Untouchable 717

Francis The God of pleated Slacks sounds about right.

So say you, and the members of 50,000 or so denominations who give themselves the authority to individually interpret or ignore Sacred Scripture, which was compiled into the first Bible by...wait for it..the Catholic Church!

I even thought about continuing to respond, but I think I'm facing such a dumb person that it will be fruitless to continue arguing.

You blamed the 30 years war on Protestants, when it was instigated by the Jesuits in order to EXTERMINATE THEM FROM EUROPE.

That, and many other just blatant historical falsehoods led to the deletion of your post.

Yes, and the counterfeit church was predicted by God to be the MOTHER CHURCH.

She is the MOTHER OF HARLOTS (False churches).

I think we know that already :)

Many, do not.

it's Rachel !!!!!

Actually, president Bush sees his god in the pope's eyes, not the God.

that was good trick last night Rachel - I laughed

I'm glad you thought it was funny.

Who's Rachel, tho?

well if not you - you have a double who used to do that years back and other similar things

but I think it's you

I won't give any more away - just been here forever that's all

I can assure you that I am not she, as I have only had full membership but once.

don't think she ever had membership - just let a few things slip occasionally