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"Universal Basic Income" makes sense even for Republicans IF they actually do the math.

 
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Instead of just reflexively opposing a Basic Income in the US, the Republicans should actually look at the advantages.

If the new Basic Income Law is passed so that it completely REPLACES welfare payments, food stamps, Social Security payments, disability payments, and ALL other government payments, the savings in paper shuffling and bureaucracy alone would pay for the new program.

Also, by writing the new law to apply to "US Citizens ONLY," it would eliminate Billions of dollars in payments to illegals in all of those replaced programs.

A Basic Income would also increase the buying power for retailers, etc. This idea makes perfect sense from both a liberal and conservative perspective.
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They would have to make room on Mount Rushmore for President Trump if he achieves that.

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Go away commie ...
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Instead of just reflexively opposing a Basic Income in the US, the Republicans should actually look at the advantages.

If the new Basic Income Law is passed so that it completely REPLACES welfare payments, food stamps, Social Security payments, disability payments, and ALL other government payments, the savings in paper shuffling and bureaucracy alone would pay for the new program.

Also, by writing the new law to apply to "US Citizens ONLY," it would eliminate Billions of dollars in payments to illegals in all of those replaced programs.

A Basic Income would also increase the buying power for retailers, etc. This idea makes perfect sense from both a liberal and conservative perspective.
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People would probably miss-spend the money. A better idea would be to take the universal basic income and get everyone"

1] A basic house/dwelling - solar powered
2] Basic food stuffs - the essentials
3] Universal Health Care
4] Public education through college or trade school
5] Basic utilities, water, electricity, internet,phone
6] Basic transportation - solar powered car.

If there is anything left over, that would become the Basic Income, enough to pay for some small outside the home entertainment, doodads etc.

If anyone wanted more than this, they will need to WORK for all the extras in their life. And it would only be open to citizens.
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Let's make this really easy.

There are 300 million people in the US. (There are more but let's keep the math simple.)

Do $1,000 per person and you're at 300 billion.

That's what you're paying out at $1,000 per person, PER MONTH!

Do it for a year and you're over 3.5 trillion.

Remember, you said Universal, not selective, everyone gets it.

Imagine the cottage industry you'll create for women having babies...
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


NOT EVERYONE. Under $24,000. READ OPs explanations. Very good idea and I think it would actually cost LESS by eliminating huge bureaucracies in each of those eliminated programs and eliminating non citizens from ANY benefits.
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I did the math. I'm quitting my 40k job to be a stay-at-home dad. Will also have plenty of time to spend with my stay-at-home wife.

That's $24,000 per adult. Plus $12,000 for each of my 5 dependent children. $108,000 in annual benefits.

Even if you cut those benefits in half, I'm still going to make bank like never before by doing nothing.
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"Universal Basic Income" makes sense even for Republicans IF they actually do the math.
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No it doesn't.

You're trying to shift what are already far too many federal dollars in welfare entitlements to another entitlement, ostensibly disguised as 'entitlement for all', which is the OPPOSITE of entitlement.

*This* conservative mind would prefer elimination of 85% of those dollars and a working, productive population.

Math? Shuffling money around like that isn't math, it's closer to laundering. lol.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


Get with the times.

There is rarely any task that a human does better than a computer.
Already, the automatic drivers can go twice as long as a human in average before having an death accident, and they are in their infancy.
There is not a game where a human can beat a designated AI.

There is just a couple of years left with work left for humans.

How are you going to deal with it?
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Flat sales tax at 16%. Everyone pays into the system even those buying fanta and hot Cheetos. No one ever has to file taxes again.
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"Universal Basic Income" is for lazy people that dont want to work.
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If you actually want to work you are retarded. Enjoy being a slave.
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Seriously this religious nut with his "work" needs to wake up from his slavery
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"Universal Basic Income" is for lazy people that dont want to work.
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If you actually want to work you are retarded. Enjoy being a slave.
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Seriously this religious nut with his "work" needs to wake up from his slavery
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Yes, but by the time you are supported by daddy (the state) and daddy says 'from now on, you will only have Roundup drenched GMO veggies' you will soon find you that you are a slave, just as much.

Only solution is to stay away from handouts, and stay away from the work force.
Stay away from fiat, and just live off the land, like the native americans did.
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Wouldn't do math near republicans, they might burn you for witchcraft.
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May as well eliminate taxes. End the Fed. Create new debt-free currency issuable by the govt as needed.

I'm sure it will magically all work out.

/sarc ?
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Not all feasible but REPLACING all of those outdated and bloated programs with a new, streamlined one makes perfect sense from almost every angle.
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Something for nothing how will this work in your opinion?
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If you give everyone a dollar, that would just inflate the cost of everything proportionally. Currency is only worth something if its scarce. Look at how many things are super more expensive or not even available to the public in socialist/commie lands.
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Giving people something they didn't earn is always a horrible idea. Look at public housing. People have no sense of responsibility to take care of things they didn't earn. Heck even the shared laboratory in my department is the filthiest place on the floor. Even highly knowledgeable and responsible people refuse to maintain public areas as if they were their own.

If you give people money for not working, then they will never work again.

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That's why it's a great idea! Just cut funding for it and you get your 500 million people in no time...
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Let's make this really easy.

There are 300 million people in the US. (There are more but let's keep the math simple.)

Do $1,000 per person and you're at 300 billion.

That's what you're paying out at $1,000 per person, PER MONTH!

Do it for a year and you're over 3.5 trillion.

Remember, you said Universal, not selective, everyone gets it.

Imagine the cottage industry you'll create for women having babies...
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


NOT EVERYONE. Under $24,000. READ OPs explanations. Very good idea and I think it would actually cost LESS by eliminating huge bureaucracies in each of those eliminated programs and eliminating non citizens from ANY benefits.
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I did the math. I'm quitting my 40k job to be a stay-at-home dad. Will also have plenty of time to spend with my stay-at-home wife.

That's $24,000 per adult. Plus $12,000 for each of my 5 dependent children. $108,000 in annual benefits.

Even if you cut those benefits in half, I'm still going to make bank like never before by doing nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71923355


The numbers can be slightly adjusted for "max allowed" per family, etc.

Everyone is missing the three KEY points.
1. US CITIZENS ONLY. Right now, millions of illegals get US taxpayer food stamps, welfare, etc.
2. END ALL EXISTING GOVERNMENT PAYOUTS. That means ending the programs, the money they payout, the bloated staffs, etc. End food stamps, welfare, social security, disability, etc. END ALL of those programs and use that money to pay for ONE simple program that actually benefits everyone and the economy.
3. People are free to go out and make more to have better lives but the fear of becoming homeless is removed for US citizens.
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Let's make this really easy.

There are 300 million people in the US. (There are more but let's keep the math simple.)

Do $1,000 per person and you're at 300 billion.

That's what you're paying out at $1,000 per person, PER MONTH!

Do it for a year and you're over 3.5 trillion.

Remember, you said Universal, not selective, everyone gets it.

Imagine the cottage industry you'll create for women having babies...
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


NOT EVERYONE. Under $24,000. READ OPs explanations. Very good idea and I think it would actually cost LESS by eliminating huge bureaucracies in each of those eliminated programs and eliminating non citizens from ANY benefits.
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I did the math. I'm quitting my 40k job to be a stay-at-home dad. Will also have plenty of time to spend with my stay-at-home wife.

That's $24,000 per adult. Plus $12,000 for each of my 5 dependent children. $108,000 in annual benefits.

Even if you cut those benefits in half, I'm still going to make bank like never before by doing nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71923355


The numbers can be slightly adjusted for "max allowed" per family, etc.

Everyone is missing the three KEY points.
1. US CITIZENS ONLY. Right now, millions of illegals get US taxpayer food stamps, welfare, etc.
2. END ALL EXISTING GOVERNMENT PAYOUTS. That means ending the programs, the money they payout, the bloated staffs, etc. End food stamps, welfare, social security, disability, etc. END ALL of those programs and use that money to pay for ONE simple program that actually benefits everyone and the economy.
3. People are free to go out and make more to have better lives but the fear of becoming homeless is removed for US citizens.
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This. Excellent plan but to many sleazy politicians getting kickbacks to approve such a sane idea.
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why are you libtard freaks always trying to get SOMETHING for NOTHING? Free to you doesn't mean free..it means I pay for it. The mega rich certainly won't
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Let's make this really easy.

There are 300 million people in the US. (There are more but let's keep the math simple.)

Do $1,000 per person and you're at 300 billion.

That's what you're paying out at $1,000 per person, PER MONTH!

Do it for a year and you're over 3.5 trillion.

Remember, you said Universal, not selective, everyone gets it.

Imagine the cottage industry you'll create for women having babies...
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc


NOT EVERYONE. Under $24,000. READ OPs explanations. Very good idea and I think it would actually cost LESS by eliminating huge bureaucracies in each of those eliminated programs and eliminating non citizens from ANY benefits.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60052152


I did the math. I'm quitting my 40k job to be a stay-at-home dad. Will also have plenty of time to spend with my stay-at-home wife.

That's $24,000 per adult. Plus $12,000 for each of my 5 dependent children. $108,000 in annual benefits.

Even if you cut those benefits in half, I'm still going to make bank like never before by doing nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71923355


The numbers can be slightly adjusted for "max allowed" per family, etc.

Everyone is missing the three KEY points.
1. US CITIZENS ONLY. Right now, millions of illegals get US taxpayer food stamps, welfare, etc.
2. END ALL EXISTING GOVERNMENT PAYOUTS. That means ending the programs, the money they payout, the bloated staffs, etc. End food stamps, welfare, social security, disability, etc. END ALL of those programs and use that money to pay for ONE simple program that actually benefits everyone and the economy.
3. People are free to go out and make more to have better lives but the fear of becoming homeless is removed for US citizens.
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Bump and PIN!! clappa
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why are you libtard freaks always trying to get SOMETHING for NOTHING? Free to you doesn't mean free..it means I pay for it. The mega rich certainly won't
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You obviously did not read this thread. Makes more financial sense for Conservatives than for liberals as it would most likely save tax dollars and boast the retail economy.
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Instead of just reflexively opposing a Basic Income in the US, the Republicans should actually look at the advantages.

If the new Basic Income Law is passed so that it completely REPLACES welfare payments, food stamps, Social Security payments, disability payments, and ALL other government payments, the savings in paper shuffling and bureaucracy alone would pay for the new program.

Also, by writing the new law to apply to "US Citizens ONLY," it would eliminate Billions of dollars in payments to illegals in all of those replaced programs.

A Basic Income would also increase the buying power for retailers, etc. This idea makes perfect sense from both a liberal and conservative perspective.
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No way to exclude all current programs and the elites answer is to cull the excess not pay them for being unemployed.
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Giving people something they didn't earn is always a horrible idea. Look at public housing. People have no sense of responsibility to take care of things they didn't earn. Heck even the shared laboratory in my department is the filthiest place on the floor. Even highly knowledgeable and responsible people refuse to maintain public areas as if they were their own.

If you give people money for not working, then they will never work again.

 Quoting: Zedakah


That's why it's a great idea! Just cut funding for it and you get your 500 million people in no time...
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I think people would dedicate their time improving themselves by studying, learning and preparing for the Future which can be quite promising if everyone pulled together.

The Government will have to intervene on behalf of the People (The People are the Government) at some point because technology has reached a point where people's jobs are being made redundant by Automation and Robotics.

Even Burger flippers can be replaced (What would Sponge Bob Square Pants say)?

A Star Trek type future could be closer than it appears, one where People strive to improve themselves and explore the Universe around and within them, in peace.

"We the People" Have to want it.
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why are you libtard freaks always trying to get SOMETHING for NOTHING? Free to you doesn't mean free..it means I pay for it. The mega rich certainly won't
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You obviously did not read this thread. Makes more financial sense for Conservatives than for liberals as it would most likely save tax dollars and boast the retail economy.
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I don't want a single dime of my money going to some lazy crackhead drunk that just sits around and does NOTHIING while I work hard EVERY DAY
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"Universal Basic Income" makes sense even for Republicans IF they actually do the math.
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No it doesn't.

You're trying to shift what are already far too many federal dollars in welfare entitlements to another entitlement, ostensibly disguised as 'entitlement for all', which is the OPPOSITE of entitlement.

*This* conservative mind would prefer elimination of 85% of those dollars and a working, productive population.

Math? Shuffling money around like that isn't math, it's closer to laundering. lol.
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You're getting hung up on semantics. It isn't laundering, it's reallocating. The us government does it all the time.
Cant argue with your productivity point, but what do you suggest happens when automation occurs? In 10 years fast food restaurants will be completely roboticized. Physical retail is going the wayside of online retail. Soon, the bottom end of the economy will go belly up. What do we do then, condemn the working class to a fate worse than the gradually eroded middle class? Will we all be forced to move to other continents? Will the top class move exclusively to exports?
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Enter the weaponized viruses, fertility decreasing chemicals, cancer causing agents etc etc soon only the wealthy can afford the cures and problem solved
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If you took the GROSS yearly box office revenues of all of American cinema, it would pay for a universal income for every adult in the US of a whopping $42 per year.

So, who are we going to rob next?


hmm
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Where you getting these numbers from? Also please include all forms of entertainment, such as pro sports and TV shows.
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OK, still collecting data... but if we also rob the NBA and NFL of all their revenue, that's another 12 billion or so a year on top of the motion picture industry theft.

So, we're up to roughly $100 a year for every adult in the US. Keep in mind that tens of thousands of people would be out of jobs at this point... these numbers are coming from taxing every dollar Americans spend on these industries, not just reducing Tom Brady's contract to $50,000 per year.

So, load up the black helicopters and SWAT trucks, I guess we're gonna have to Venezuela the fuck out of TV now because we're just not getting it done here.
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Social programs cost 668 bil a year
332 million citizens
Roughly 2000 dollars per citizen.

Now, an issue arises if too many people don't work. Part of that 668 bil a year comes from middle class taxes. Here's a solution.

Require work, or create a local aggregator app that all corporations or even people with work can post volunteer based non-skilled positions. It could be tied to your SS number so that the amount of work could be checked. Give the disabled an option to keep their disability and determine how much work they would be able to do.


This would further free up economic resources. Free labor (kinda, it isn't slavery) for the ones making a lot of money.
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Ok if everyone is working for UBI why do we not just work for our current pay checks??
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Communism has never worked. Never will work. Its a dictatorship.

Take care of yourself and your own. No one owes you anything. Lions don't hunt for other prides. Birds don't feather other birds nests.
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OP - you keep throwing terms like "poor people" and "working class" around, yet are advocating basic income 'for all'.

Wut up wit dat?

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I mean a income if you are unemployed or underemployed. If you are making more than $2000 per month, you dont get anything. If you are making less than that, you get the difference so that you make $2000. If you become unemployed, you get the $2000, VERY simple.

YES, I know that it would make low end workers not want to work but it would then make employers HAVE to pay more. It would be a different type of economy but once it settled in, I believe it makes very sound economic sense especially by ENDING ALL of the existing programs.
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So it punishes the ones making more than 2000 F that. I'm more keen on encouraging success
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Instead of just reflexively opposing a Basic Income in the US, the Republicans should actually look at the advantages.

If the new Basic Income Law is passed so that it completely REPLACES welfare payments, food stamps, Social Security payments, disability payments, and ALL other government payments, the savings in paper shuffling and bureaucracy alone would pay for the new program.

Also, by writing the new law to apply to "US Citizens ONLY," it would eliminate Billions of dollars in payments to illegals in all of those replaced programs.

A Basic Income would also increase the buying power for retailers, etc. This idea makes perfect sense from both a liberal and conservative perspective.
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Great..I'm sick of busting my ass every day..been doing it for 32 years..I'll let the chumps give me a free ride...What a DUMB concept. We have basic income..it's called WELFARE..and we have millions of welfare rats as it is
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The welfare programs and welfare cheats, illegals getting welfare, etc, will END. US CITIZENS ONLY will be written into the new program and law.
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Why not just write US citizens only into the current programs?
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The Universal Basic Income is inevitable as AI and Tech take more and more jobs. It may even begin in this lifetime.

If we don't rapture out in the next 100 years, the idea of having to work [as we define work now] in order to eat and have a roof over your head will seem outlandish.

A future society will identify or even genetically create skills and aptitudes and humans will be put into positions that society requires.

..or we destroy a big chunk of the planet and start from scratch...working the land...

...or we rapture out soon, Jesus takes care of evil at Armageddon and we live in peace for 1,000 years....
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Or the culling will begin and the population will be reduced to around 50 million in years.
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It could never work idiot.
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If you took away a large portion of money the rich are hoarding, then yes it could.
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why add thievery to stupidity?
you didn't write that post, someone else did it for you!
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Instead of just reflexively opposing a Basic Income in the US, the Republicans should actually look at the advantages.

If the new Basic Income Law is passed so that it completely REPLACES welfare payments, food stamps, Social Security payments, disability payments, and ALL other government payments, the savings in paper shuffling and bureaucracy alone would pay for the new program.

Also, by writing the new law to apply to "US Citizens ONLY," it would eliminate Billions of dollars in payments to illegals in all of those replaced programs.

A Basic Income would also increase the buying power for retailers, etc. This idea makes perfect sense from both a liberal and conservative perspective.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75011669

Great..I'm sick of busting my ass every day..been doing it for 32 years..I'll let the chumps give me a free ride...What a DUMB concept. We have basic income..it's called WELFARE..and we have millions of welfare rats as it is
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The welfare programs and welfare cheats, illegals getting welfare, etc, will END. US CITIZENS ONLY will be written into the new program and law.
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Why not just write US citizens only into the current programs?
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Doesnt solve all the corruption and bureaucratic bloat in each program. OPs SINGLE new program solves a lot of existing problems and fixes the robotic automation issues. Great idea if it could ever get past the politicians and lobbyists.
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"Universal Basic Income" makes sense even for Republicans IF they actually do the math.
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No it doesn't.

You're trying to shift what are already far too many federal dollars in welfare entitlements to another entitlement, ostensibly disguised as 'entitlement for all', which is the OPPOSITE of entitlement.

*This* conservative mind would prefer elimination of 85% of those dollars and a working, productive population.

Math? Shuffling money around like that isn't math, it's closer to laundering. lol.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


Get with the times.

There is rarely any task that a human does better than a computer.
Already, the automatic drivers can go twice as long as a human in average before having an death accident, and they are in their infancy.
There is not a game where a human can beat a designated AI.

There is just a couple of years left with work left for humans.

How are you going to deal with it?
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That's the part most are not nearly aware of yet. It is coming and fast. UBI will be somewhat like what is done for basic survival of human beings in the US esp.
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Re: "Universal Basic Income" makes sense even for Republicans IF they actually do the math.
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Great..I'm sick of busting my ass every day..been doing it for 32 years..I'll let the chumps give me a free ride...What a DUMB concept. We have basic income..it's called WELFARE..and we have millions of welfare rats as it is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39516942


The welfare programs and welfare cheats, illegals getting welfare, etc, will END. US CITIZENS ONLY will be written into the new program and law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75011669


Why not just write US citizens only into the current programs?
 Quoting: Seeker 2


Doesnt solve all the corruption and bureaucratic bloat in each program. OPs SINGLE new program solves a lot of existing problems and fixes the robotic automation issues. Great idea if it could ever get past the politicians and lobbyists.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74706046


This