"Universal Basic Income" makes sense even for Republicans IF they actually do the math.

END ALL of the other bloated government payout programs. Social Security (which is going bankrupt anyway), welfare, food stamps, disability and any other government payouts.

Make it clear that the new program and law is ONLY for "US CITIZENS."

"Universal Basic Income" is for lazy people that dont want to work.

OK OP, since you're still here, you said this would make sense to Republicans if we actually do the math.

So let's do the math OP. How much would this "basic income" be per month?

Where you getting these numbers from? Also please include all forms of entertainment, such as pro sports and TV shows.

OK, still collecting data... but if we also rob the NBA and NFL of all their revenue, that's another 12 billion or so a year on top of the motion picture industry theft.

So, we're up to roughly $100 a year for every adult in the US. Keep in mind that tens of thousands of people would be out of jobs at this point... these numbers are coming from taxing every dollar Americans spend on these industries, not just reducing Tom Brady's contract to $50,000 per year.

So, load up the black helicopters and SWAT trucks, I guess we're gonna have to Venezuela the fuck out of TV now because we're just not getting it done here.

I would say $2000 per adult, $1000 per dependent while ENDING ALL of the existing programs. The bureaucratic savings alone would be tremendous as well as the dumping of all the illegals off of those programs.

OK, still collecting data... but if we also rob the NBA and NFL of all their revenue, that's another 12 billion or so a year on top of the motion picture industry theft.

So, we're up to roughly $100 a year for every adult in the US. Keep in mind that tens of thousands of people would be out of jobs at this point... these numbers are coming from taxing every dollar Americans spend on these industries, not just reducing Tom Brady's contract to $50,000 per year.

So, load up the black helicopters and SWAT trucks, I guess we're gonna have to Venezuela the fuck out of TV now because we're just not getting it done here.

OP - you keep throwing terms like "poor people" and "working class" around, yet are advocating basic income 'for all'.

Wut up wit dat?

:chappelle wat:

Instead of just reflexively opposing a Basic Income in the US, the Republicans should actually look at the advantages.

If the new Basic Income Law is passed so that it completely REPLACES welfare payments, food stamps, Social Security payments, disability payments, and ALL other government payments, the savings in paper shuffling and bureaucracy alone would pay for the new program.

Also, by writing the new law to apply to "US Citizens ONLY," it would eliminate Billions of dollars in payments to illegals in all of those replaced programs.

A Basic Income would also increase the buying power for retailers, etc. This idea makes perfect sense from both a liberal and conservative perspective.

I mean a income if you are unemployed or underemployed. If you are making more than $2000 per month, you dont get anything. If you are making less than that, you get the difference so that you make $2000. If you become unemployed, you get the $2000, VERY simple.

YES, I know that it would make low end workers not want to work but it would then make employers HAVE to pay more. It would be a different type of economy but once it settled in, I believe it makes very sound economic sense especially by ENDING ALL of the existing programs.

I mean a income if you are unemployed or underemployed. If you are making more than $2000 per month, you dont get anything. If you are making less than that, you get the difference so that you make $2000. If you become unemployed, you get the $2000, VERY simple.

YES, I know that it would make low end workers not want to work but it would then make employers HAVE to pay more. It would be a different type of economy but once it settled in, I believe it makes very sound economic sense especially by ENDING ALL of the existing programs.

Great..I'm sick of busting my ass every day..been doing it for 32 years..I'll let the chumps give me a free ride...What a DUMB concept. We have basic income..it's called WELFARE..and we have millions of welfare rats as it is

That would cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 trillion dollars per year.

We only collect about 3 trillion per year in taxes. Eliminating all other welfare programs and social security would save us a trillion, but that leaves us still 2 trillion per year short just to pay for the universal income nevermind the rest of our budget.

Where's the money gonna come from OP???

The welfare programs and welfare cheats, illegals getting welfare, etc, will END. US CITIZENS ONLY will be written into the new program and law.

That is the stupidest idea I've heard in my life. So, why work? Why should I or anyone bust their ass at work and pay taxes to pay some lazy assholes money they didn't earn? Where is any incentive to invent anything or work overtime or pay taxes or anything? You are a fucking socialist dreaming of some utopia where everything is free. Grow up.

Walmart record profits and their employees make peanuts.

It's simple,force employers to pay their employees more, without raising prices.

Instead of just reflexively opposing a Basic Income in the US, the Republicans should actually look at the advantages.

If the new Basic Income Law is passed so that it completely REPLACES welfare payments, food stamps, Social Security payments, disability payments, and ALL other government payments, the savings in paper shuffling and bureaucracy alone would pay for the new program.

Also, by writing the new law to apply to "US Citizens ONLY," it would eliminate Billions of dollars in payments to illegals in all of those replaced programs.

A Basic Income would also increase the buying power for retailers, etc. This idea makes perfect sense from both a liberal and conservative perspective.

I mean a income if you are unemployed or underemployed. If you are making more than $2000 per month, you dont get anything. If you are making less than that, you get the difference so that you make $2000. If you become unemployed, you get the $2000, VERY simple.

YES, I know that it would make low end workers not want to work but it would then make employers HAVE to pay more. It would be a different type of economy but once it settled in, I believe it makes very sound economic sense especially by ENDING ALL of the existing programs.

There are many other alternatives.

For example, there is a lot of empty land in this country. Why not start giving plots to families and letting them live how they want?

That would be free, it would be up to the families to hunt, grow food, and survive.

But that isn't even an option.

Instead they want the poor on food stamps so they can go get full off poisonous fake food.

That would cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 6 trillion dollars per year.

We only collect about 3 trillion per year in taxes. Eliminating all other welfare programs and social security would save us a trillion, but that leaves us still 2 trillion per year short just to pay for the universal income nevermind the rest of our budget.

Where's the money gonna come from OP???

I believe work = money

There's always the retards and gimps that a civilized society must take care of, but that's where it should end. No workey no money, got it?