Os it wrong to hurt people In an esoteric manner?

I was under the impression this was a good thing.

Then you should really develop your gift because some of us are on the other side.


Bonne chance.

I love Trinity's posts, I have lived my whole life by the adage that "Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord", he's right you know

I believe most of us will answer to each other in the end and for eternity but supposedly suffering in life eases suffering in the afterlife.

Maybe for defense when it's needed, or that some are just nasty/evil enough to deserve it.

That's its own thread but from my vantage point, the thelemist is disadvantaged at the expense of the Satanist.

And I'm saying that as a guy who was a happy sheep until a hard hit on the head.

You are dealing in the esoteric but do not think there are esoteric laws?

Think again.

I think this is vigilantism, moreso than vengeance.

Yeah, by all means- you have the universal right as a sentient being to do everything in your power to defend your life and liberty- there are all sorts of methods to "defend" oneself from harm- if the idiot cant read between the lines and falls from attempts to persevere with his ill-begotten venture, in the face of strong resistance... f#ck 'em.

Focus your energy instead on protecting yourself from harm, rather than seeking vengeance for your ineffectiveness at doing so prior-

I honestly feel this is a natural manifestation of traditionally esoteric practices. Like telling a bear not to use its claws versus telling a man not to use his knife.

Didn't mean to quote that..but since I did I guess I can suggest another stroke (not usually lethal) as a non murderous way of stopping the theft.

I can honestly say I don't want them to die. I was assuming a survivable event, but with indifference. If the Universe or God wants them alive, let it/him keep them alive. I'm just directing electrical impulses.

I'll be honest, half of my inclination is to devoting myself to bringing these phenomenon to light and advancing medical science. The other half would use the ability indiscriminately for my own benefit out of sheer disdain for the average human.

My outlook is very likely trauma based. I don't think there's any helping that now.

In the first case, then yes I have and am going that way it's just a matter of if I could enable a quicker resolution then should I.

The other reason is my vanity and generally spiting anyone the opportunity of seeing me in a box.

Astute observation and wisdom.

Black magic is thrown off at once & falls back on the head of the person who sent it

"Even if you find yourself in the worst psychic and material conditions, don't let yourself become weaker by thinking how easy it is for evil, in any of its forms, to affect you. If you always feel weak, vulnerable and without protection, then, yes, you really are exposed. But if you work inwardly to connect with heavenly entities and with the light, and if you lead an honest, pure life, you will feel that some essential part of you remains safe in spite of everything.

You will say, 'But I feel certain people are constantly projecting bad thoughts onto me.' Well, those bad thoughts will come back to them in the end, for what they are doing exposes them to the law of backlash. Evil cannot find a way into people who are occupied by the Lord and the angels; it is thrown off at once and falls back on the head of the person who sent it out. Hold on to this truth, and straightaway you will feel safe."

"It is true that black magic exists. But it is also true that we have the power to enhance or diminish things, according to how we think about them. Since black magic exists - and even supposing that there are ill-intentioned people who want to use it against us - it is by having faith in its power that we reinforce it. Instead, tell yourself that as a son or daughter of God you cannot be attacked so easily by the forces of evil, and you will escape. If you have to suffer a failure, an illness, an accident, or a separation, I urge you therefore not to rashly attribute it to black magic. First of all, ask yourself sincerely if the cause is not to be found in yourself, and find out what you must do to improve the situation. Do not waste precious time in wild imaginings that will do nothing but aggravate your misfortunes."

"Books on magic are becoming increasingly available, and many of the people who read them begin to see black magic everywhere, and as the cause of the problems they encounter in their daily lives. If there is an accident, an illness or problems at work, they imagine that someone is jealous or resents them and is working black magic on them. How many people have come to talk me on this subject! And what I especially notice is that it only takes a few looks, words or gestures together with a few meaningless coincidences to trigger someone's imagination, and he does all the rest. Yes, he interprets, he engages in extraordinary, wild imaginings. It is he alone who persecutes himself by failing to find the correct attitude."

"The first law of morality is very simple and can be observed in the field of agriculture: we reap what we have sown. This means that if you do good, you will one day reap the fruits of it. You will say that we cannot always see the fruits of good in the world. This is because we do not make our observations over a sufficiently long period of time. Cosmic laws are in less of a hurry than we are. They obey another kind of time, and this is why the rewards often appear somewhat delayed…and the punishments too, for that matter. If you become impatient, if you rebel because you feel you have not received the rewards you deserve, you complicate the situation. Why suffer and torment yourself? Sooner or later, without fail, these rewards will come, and if you do not waste time waiting for them, you will be free, detached. If you rebel, it means you are not in possession of the truth. For every good deed you have done, the gifts are already on the way, so have faith!"

Well, sadly I say: You are a very selfish person. I'm sorry for the fucking trauma in your life that you've allowed to color you this way.

I've experienced gross trauma, and I was able to pick myself up out of my dark quarters and rise above...you've just fucking given up. You are selfish.


Sorry for going off on you, it's being a day....and I can't fucking believe another ruined human being is running around contemplating how their going to fuck someone else up.


Got damn. I need a vacation. On Venus or Mars...or Jupiter maybe. Anywhere, but here.

Rather than using your energy to target individuals and bring harm to their lives. You should be using that energy to try and send positive vibration through to people who need it. All that bad karma your building will effect you, whether its in your current life or your next I cant say. Depending on how much ill will you cast and how severe it is, it will at least return 3 times over. Worst being 21 times over.

You are essentially casting hexes, but I'm sure you already knew that. Look into them.

So, don't worry about black magic: make yourself strong, think of the light, work with the light, & the light in you will repel the negative

It is impossible to take up esoteric science without encountering, at some
time or other, the subject of magic and, particularly, black magic. But it
would be more sensible to leave the area of black magic alone, and above
all you should avoid thinking you might fall prey to it. Those who have
this fear are already attracting negative currents to themselves. Yes,
because this fear makes them vulnerable and, therefore, open to all kinds
of dark elements floating in the atmosphere. It's the same as with
epidemics: if you are fragile and receptive, you catch every germ from
people you meet, but if you are robust, resistant and emissive you escape
them. So, don't worry about black magic: make yourself strong, think of
the light, work with the light, and then the light in you will repel the
negative. A wheel that's turning very fast throws off the mud, but as soon
as it begins to turn more slowly any dirt sticks to it. And when the flow of
a spring is strong, it sweeps away the leaves and twigs that might
otherwise obstruct it. So, instead of allowing your mind to become lazy,
be like a spring.

"It is said that before he created the world, God began by establishing its
boundaries. And everything that exists merely confirms the need we have
of them. A cell is surrounded by a membrane, the brain is enclosed in the
skull, and so on. And what is the function of the skin? It serves as a
boundary. You will find that everything you look at around you is a
reflection of the circle mentioned in Proverbs that God drew as the
boundary for his creation. If a perfume is not sealed in a bottle, it
evaporates. If you want to build a house, you have first to determine its
boundaries: without walls, where would the house be?

The same applies to the spiritual plane. There, also, boundaries are
necessary. Before inviting luminous spirits to a spiritual work, mages
surround themselves with a circle; they set the boundaries of the territory
within which they are going to act. As for disciples, they must learn to
draw a circle of light around themselves every day, if only in thought. In
the absence of this circle, their spiritual energies dissipate, and they are
no longer protected."

The spirits of light intervene only when asked. If nothing is asked of
them, they do not come in. Angels occasionally look in on humans, but
even if you are prey to dark entities they will say, ‘We don’t have the right
to impose on this being. We haven’t been asked for anything, so we must
respect this person’s freedom.’ Only dark spirits allow themselves to come
in without authorization. This is precisely what differentiates the spirits of
light from the spirits of the dark. The spirits of the dark respect nothing.
Spirits of light, on the other hand, wait for you to become open to them.
And when they feel they are invited, what a joy it is for them! They see
you as an awakened being, and they sing, ‘We, the powers of heaven,
may at last enter these souls to help them and work with them’, and they
inspire your thoughts, your feelings, your actions and your words.

"Why do you limit yourself to the contacts you make on the physical plane
with human beings? There are other beings to encounter in the universe
and with whom you can establish relationships. Every day you have the
possibility not only to link yourselves with the luminous entities who
populate the universe, but to draw them nearer to you. So address
yourselves to them: ‘Come, celestial friends, come make your dwelling
place in me.’ You can also add: ‘Lord God, Divine Mother, Holy Trinity, all
angels and archangels, servants of God and of light, my entire being
belongs to you; make use of me for the glory of God, for his kingdom and
justice on earth.’ Pronounce these words is the true consecration. If you
do not know how to invite the celestial spirits, do not be surprised when
other entities, in no way celestial, come and establish themselves in you
without waiting for an invitation! It is up to you to decide who you want
for inhabitants."

When people talk about the devil, they do not know exactly to what
cosmic or psychic reality this word corresponds. The devil does not exist
as an individual entity opposed to God and on an equal footing with him.
Those people who claim that the devil appeared to them have only
imagined it. Spirits of light exist and so do spirits of darkness, and it is
this group of evil spirits that we call the devil. The devil does not exist as
an entity separate from and opposed to God, but as a collective force that
is nourished and reinforced by people's negative thoughts, feelings and
actions.

And we can also say that the devil is part of man himself, of his lower self.
How was it formed? During his reincarnations man has continuously fed
his lower self with his weaknesses and vices, thus blocking the path to
heaven. However there exists also in man a luminous entity, his higher
self that has been formed with his thoughts, feelings and actions inspired
by kindness, generosity, love and sacrifice. So, if people tried hard to
restore order to their inner life, the devil would disappear.

"It is said in the Scriptures that the sacrifice of the righteous is like a
fragrance and the Lord delights in this fragrance. Yes, this is a fact; the
soul of the righteous emits a fragrance, which attracts the presence of
divine entities, the presence of the holy Spirit. The holy Spirit only
descends into a soul if he can smell her fragrance.

It is therefore very important for us to endeavour, through our spiritual
work, to improve the quality of the fragrance of our psychic bodies, not to
attract fellow human beings, but to attract our friends of the invisible
world, because they like the fragrance of a pure soul. Why not give them
this joy? When you burn incense you chase away dark spirits and you
attract celestial entities. That is good, but it is not enough. You must also
inwardly seek to emit the fragrance of purity, of holiness."

"Because they have still not learned how to develop the psychic centres
that would allow them to make contact with the invisible world, most
humans have devised a philosophy based solely on the perceptions of
their five senses, leading them to the wrong conclusions. For example,
would any psychiatrist or psychoanalyst accept that psychic troubles are
caused by the presence in people of evil entities? Researchers have not
seen any at the other end of their microscopes, so they do not exist. But
they should consider the fact that creatures such as viruses and germs,
which are invisible to the naked eye, are visible through microscopes; so
why not accept that other creatures might exist which our instruments
are not yet sophisticated enough to detect? In any case, the ravages
these creatures produce are as visible as those produced by viruses; no
one can deny that.

Doubtless, science will one day perfect instruments which will allow them
to detect the presence of dark spirits (and spirits of light as well, of
course). But meanwhile, it is better to accept that they exist and, above
all, learn to protect yourself from them by leading a life inspired by
wisdom, love and purity."

"We eat every day, but don’t be shocked if I tell you that we are eaten as
well. Yes, we too serve as food for other entities, for the angels. They
partake of our good thoughts and sentiments, of everything in us that is
inspired by wisdom and love.

Angels think of us as plants that produce flowers and fruits. When they
come to pick our fruits, they do not break our branches. On the contrary,
they water us and care for us, so that the fruits we produce are even
more succulent. But there are also ‘angels’ of another sort: entities of
darkness, or demons. Because they too must nourish themselves, they
feast on humans whose malicious schemes and negative emotions are
delectable fare for them. They sap all their energy and leave them
exhausted. While nothing is more desirable than serving as food for the
angels of light, nothing is worse than being devoured by the spirits of
darkness."

"The spirits of darkness have been depicted with horns, a forked tail and
all the cauldrons of hell, but this is not how they present themselves to
humans, for it is not in their interest to frighten them. Actually, they
worm their way into them in the form of enticing promises that all their
desires will be satisfied. And they persist until the poor naive creatures
fall into their snares like overripe fruit. The way they are able to impose
themselves is by promising power, pleasure and money.

As for the spirits of light, they say, 'By listening to us, you may not obtain
glory or riches, because it is the prince of this world who possesses those.
But we have something else to give you: light, peace, knowledge and,
above all, life, abundant life. Do you want to come with us?' If you are
enlightened, if you are truly discerning, you listen to the voice of the
heavenly spirits; otherwise, of course, you fall into the snares of the dark
spirits."

"When you dial a number on the telephone, the only person to answer
you out of all the millions and millions of the world's inhabitants is the one
whose number you have called. All relationships between all creatures in
the universe obey this law. Just as your friend answers you when you dial
his number, in the same way, when you emit a thought which corresponds
to the wavelength of a specific entity or region of the universe, you
establish a relationship with that entity or region. Those whose thoughts
are always conflicting and chaotic are bound to have very unsatisfactory
relationships because they are constantly in touch with entities that
correspond to the nature of their thoughts. This is why it is so important
to fill your minds with a heavenly idea, for that idea will have a magical
attraction for the entities and elements capable of bringing it to fruition. A
sublime idea in the mind acts as a warning to the spirits of darkness -
'Keep out', 'Beware of the dog', 'Trespassers will be prosecuted' - and
they dare not enter you; but it leaves the door wide open to all luminous
spirits."

"You will have noticed in day-to-day life that it is easier to obtain
something than to keep hold of it. Any number of people who are capable
of using all their intelligence, willpower and patience to achieve success
and obtain what they want will then behave so carelessly and recklessly,
they lose it all!

And this is even truer, unfortunately, when it comes to the inner life. So, if
an idea comes to you, if you feel some inspiration or impulse, do your
best to keep a hold of it, and not just that, but nourish it and make it
grow. Never forget that beings of light in the invisible world are watching
you. If they see you concentrating on the essential truths, on the
essential riches, they give you what the earth will never be able to give
you. And take precious care of what you have received; you do not know
how many entities have rallied for you to obtain it. Yes, how can you think
you have acquired it on your own, without any help? So now, do not be
neglectful or ungrateful. Preserve this treasure; keep it safe."

Matter is neither inert nor insensitive; not only is it sensitive, it is also
endowed with memory. All events that take place in the universe leave
traces in the etheric layers of matter. Everything that happens is
recorded, and nothing disappears, but humans have not yet developed
the means to read or hear these recordings. For human beings do not yet
know themselves; they have no idea of the means the Creator has placed
at their disposal. Nor do they know they are a microcosm of the
macrocosm, a reflection of the universe, and therefore a repository of all
cosmic memory. In this highly subtle and imponderable substance which
is part of the quintessence of their being, there is room enough for the
entire universe.

"Man, the reflection in microcosm of the macrocosm, is the repository of
all cosmic memory. He possesses within himself the archives of the
universe which are represented symbolically in the Sephirotic Tree by the
Sephirah Daath, Knowledge. Daath is original matter, the primordial
matter over which God breathed at the beginning of the world in order to
fertilize it. Because matter is the substance of creation, it is able to hold
memory. The spirit awakens this memory by moving lightly over matter,
just as a breeze makes the strings of an aeolian harp vibrate. Only our
inner silence prepares the conditions for the awakening of this original
memory."

On the whole, demons and the darkness of hell do not frighten people
that much. What many are afraid of the most is divine light. And, actually,
this is quite understandable: they still feel deep down a need to give free
rein to their instincts and passions; they flee from the light, as it will show
them that the life they are leading is mediocre, criminal even. They do not
wish to give up any of their bad habits, and they cannot bear anything
that might show them they are bad. When people do not want to make
any effort to improve themselves, they close their eyes, cover their ears
and convince themselves they are fine the way they are. All those who
fear the light do not really know why, but they feel instinctively that
something in it threatens what they believe to be their happiness. Only
those who have a sincere wish to evolve, to change, seek out the light, as
it will show them everything about them that needs to be improved as
well as how to improve it.

God is the only source of life. He has created everything, and nothing and
no one can exist outside Him. Every living being lives the life of God. So
you must accept the idea that even those beings we call demons have
also received life from Him. They are alive, we cannot deny it; and, since
God does not take life away from them, it means that He accepts their
existence. If the dark entities have not received their life from God, who
has given it to them? Could they have created it themselves? Or could
they have received it from another Creator? The light, love and patience
of God nourishes all creatures. Obviously, those who do not remain close
to Him are deprived of His benedictions. But it is they who deprive
themselves of these blessings, it is not God who has withdrawn them.

Human beings are constructed in such a way that they harbour various
entities, and while these entities may be angels, the Holy Spirit or the
Christ, they can unfortunately also be spirits from hell. Whenever
someone stoops to selfish, hostile, malicious thoughts, feelings and
actions, they are preparing the conditions to receive those spirits. And
then, what trouble they have ridding themselves of them! You will say,
‘But we have heard that Jesus’ cross chases out demons.’ Actually, no
cross, whether of wood, iron or gold, has ever chased out demons. The
only cross that can put them to flight is the living cross of the human
being. For a human being is a cross: when you spread your arms out you
become a cross in space and connect with the four cardinal points, and
when you have worked a long time to purify yourself and become holy,
you are able through your emanations to repel all that is negative and
dark.


"Instead of remaining idle and wasting your time and energy in worthless
activities, you can significantly reinforce certain luminous entities within
you through patient and intelligent work. You yourself may be weak, but
these entities are powerful, and if you provide them with the conditions
they need to manifest their power, everywhere you go, thanks to them,
you will enlighten others and prepare the coming of the kingdom of God.
How many of you are truly participating in this work right now? Honestly
ask yourself this question. You are still indecisive, irresolute, and at the
beck and call of blind forces. Once and for all, dedicate yourself to the
service of a high ideal, to the coming of the kingdom of God, and do not
be concerned with what will become of you. This ideal will bring you
everything."

"There is no nobler activity than to participate in the work for the coming
of the kingdom of God and his righteousness. You have to be aware of
this and participate with all the means you have, great or small, even with
your weaknesses and deficiencies - no matter - just participate. When
there is an election, no one insists that people be necessarily smart or
able in order to vote; even idiots can vote. Well, we too must vote for the
kingdom of God and his righteousness, participate in the coming of this
kingdom on earth and be happy and proud to do so. In the eyes of
heaven there is nothing more important. It is true that most people
participate to a certain extent in all kinds of enterprises, but most of the
time these enterprises are mundane or worse - stupid, pernicious or even
diabolic. Whereas here, we offer you the most glorious and sublime
enterprise in which you can participate: the kingdom of God and his
righteousness, the Golden Age."

"‘Seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things shall
be yours as well.’ The kingdom of God represents the highest ideal to
which a human being can aspire. When you place yourself in the service
of this ideal, you attract all blessings.

Everything you may wish for, apart from the kingdom of God and his
justice, in other words, apart from light, love, generosity and
brotherhood, can only weigh you down, make you poorer and make your
life more and more difficult. Perhaps after tasting certain pleasures or
achieving personal success you will feel satisfied for a few moments, but
you will soon tire of it, and you may even have to pay dearly for that
moment of satisfaction. That is why these words of Jesus: ‘Seek first his
kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things shall be yours as
well’ are said to be the absolute quintessence of initiatic Science."

"By concentrating the sun’s rays with a magnifying glass – a simple piece
of glass will do – we can produce fire. Long before physicists had
perfected its practical applications, initiates had discovered this power of
concentration on the psychic plane and had made it the basis of their
spiritual work. For thousands of years they have taught their disciples
that, in order to progress on the path of light, they must gather all the
scattered currents of their being and direct them toward a single point.
This beneficial exercise of concentration can be done alone at home, but
why not do it together? When enlightened, determined and conscious
people gather in greater and greater numbers to call for the kingdom of
God, they will become like the rays of the sun, concentrated on a single
point and capable of melting even the most hardened hearts."

"Seek the Kingdom of God, hope for the Kingdom of God and nothing
else, because the Kingdom of God is a state of perfection, of fulfilment,
comprising everything: health, wealth, beauty, order, freedom, peace,
wisdom, love, joy, and more. So, instead of naming all these blessings in
your meditations and your prayers it is less ‘labour intensive' to talk of the
Kingdom of God, which is the synthesis of all of these. People say: ‘If only
I were powerful; if only I were rich; if only I were beautiful.' But these are
only individual aspects, attributes of the Kingdom of God, and as soon as
we begin to wish for something in particular, we create an imbalance. The
Kingdom of God is above all a state of equilibrium and harmony, and if we
seek one individual thing, it is obviously at the detriment of something
else, and already the seeds of imbalance are sown. Everything our soul,
our spirit, our heart, our intellect, our physical body need is contained in
these words: the Kingdom of God."

"When you work for the truth, for the light, for the kingdom of God, you
need not be afraid or discouraged, no matter what happens to you, no
matter what people say to you or how they treat you, because you are on
the right path. This is absolutely certain. If you turn back, it proves that
your objective was not truly disinterested. If you are not prepared to risk
anything for heaven, it means that you are not working for the Lord, but
for yourself. All those who have worked for the realization of God's great
plans have never turned back, never – whatever may have happened.
They could be persecuted, even put to death, and it did not matter. They
knew they were immortal and that one day their work would be
recognized."

The High Ideal

I have often said to you everything depends, for man, on what interests
him in life, what he wants, what his goal is and where he is going ... in a
word, everything depends on what his Ideal is. Yes, it is the essential, for
this Ideal works: it prepares the ground, digs the grooves, attracts the
elements that correspond with its own, and repels those that are
strangers or contrary to it. Everything in life is fashioned, modelled in
such a way that even its form is according to our Ideal. If it is neither
great nor noble but only material, gross, all that we do, feel and think is
the expression of the mediocrity of our Ideal and we must not be
surprised to find ourselves limited and unhappy.

Meditate on this question and you will understand the importance of
cultivating, within you, the highest Ideal. It should not preoccupy your
thoughts that this is going to be difficult to realize. You should be thinking
only about making the Ideal perfect, sublime and divine. How long it
takes to make it appear, or even whether you will ever be able to make it
happen should not concern you. It is unimportant. Why be always looking
for what is at hand and easy to obtain? Humans are like that: anything
that is distant, difficult, inaccessible, they put aside.

A High Ideal is a living being powerful and real, with the means of
bringing us everything we need for us to blossom out. It is because of not
wanting to understand this Truth that man has always been deprived of
the best, because he has chosen a tangible goal too close, too accessible,
too easy to realize, thereby ruining his existence. Every ideal, whatever it
is, has one magic virtue: it is linked to us and it shares with us some of
its own quintessence. If it is a very High Ideal, it brings us ceaselessly all
the best particles and currents. Since we formed it ourselves, since we
think about it continually and love it, it is always there, ready to improve
the conditions at any time ... and that is why one day we find ourselves in
the midst of new conditions that this Ideal has prepared for us. But, we
must love it to reach that point, we must think about it a lot, feed it and
despite its heights and the distance that separates us, we must create it
in our heart and soul.

From now on, you must learn to surpass yourselves, to'surmount
everything else in order to form this Ideal, knowing that it is already a
live being in the Divine World and, since, there are link between you, it is
able to snatch you away from your difficulties, your grief and woe, your
despair. It comes close to you and says, "Here I am, don't forget I'm
here." And as soon as you contact it, you feel comforted and inspired.
But, have we enough faith, enough knowledge and will, to form such an
Ideal? No. We are lazy, we don't like effort, we are affected by
appearances. Why? Because we are meant to suffer some more, that's all.

Those who have no High Ideal are condemned to work with crumbly
materials in very uncertain conditions. Then they suffer and complain but
whose fault is it? They failed to aim enough and were contented with
shabby little unimportant things without realizing how ordinary ind
unreliable the material was. According to the Law of Affinity, an ordinary
ideal attracts dark elements with no resistance. They must go now and
look higher, higher and higher, in Heaven, in the Light, in space, in the
depths of their being, for the purest elements with which to form the
matter of their physical and psychic being.

Most of the time, people imagine that since they are able to do what
pleases them, and choose their activities, that their ideal is already
realized. Then, why do so many people admit that tbey feel empty, void
... as though something were lacking? This isn't logical if they claim to
have obtained everything they hoped for. The fact is, as long as they have
no High Ideal, there will always be something lacking, for only the High
Ideal can quench mans thirst and appetite; it penetrates him and fills him
everywhere, bringing plenitude. I am not saying you shouldn't seek to do
the kind of work you like. On the contrary, be what you want to be:
doctor, lawyer, chemist, musician ... but realize that it will never bring you
fulfillment. A job is necessary in order to live. All trades are good but to
stop there and expect happiness and the fulfillment of all your dreams is
impossible ... God did not endow them with that ability. He gave them
certain possibilities but not absolute possibilities for the Soul and Spirit.
To reach plenitude to that extent takes something more. A lot more.
So, have everything in life you think necessary but let your Ideal not be
too low. Your Ideal should be so high that you cannot attain it ... then you
know the truth: you know that even in thousands of years you will not be
able to realize the Ideal but you love it, you can imagine it, you are linked
closely to it, you talk to it. Because that Ideal is what holds you upright
and keeps you from falling, it is what brings you all the joy of Heaven,
transforming everything evil and able to make you, one day, into a
Divinity.

The High Ideal
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The Kingdom of God and His Righteousness
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I wish you all Love, Wisdom, Truth and Light of Eternity to work for the
Kingdom of God and His Righteousness

How is it selfish to give up? To whom do I owe my effort? Trauma is relative, to put it simply I would rather be dead than to have suffered what I've suffered. But I'm alive. I have no desire to live as a person who has been marred such. At the same time, I hold my image in too high regard to take my life. If I was ugly, I would much more than likely have killed myself by now. I hope that makes sense. To me, it's the opposite of selfish.

You can't contemplate as you said... well here I am alive, in complete loathing of that very life. I don't want to exist, but not only do I, I am capable of considerable carnage. In my mind, I exist for no other reason but to exercise this ability.

I don't understand how innate abilities can be so governed. I agreed to nothing, the capability was thrust upon myself.

What you're saying, I compare to trinity's sailboats. I don't see things with window dressing applied, I see the wire frame, the zeros and ones, you can navigate a labyrinth as you've described, or you can ignore parameters and make a straight line from A to B. Without your consent, there are no walls, there are no defined parameters other than what exists. You can spend years exploring the intricacies of an illusion built over a lifetime, or you can discern within half a second the color of a wire frame and execute judgement. I would, if I could, be a consuming flame engulfing chaff for eternity.

Yes, it is wrong to harm anyone in any way, even if they deserve it. Punishment should be only in the form of "tough love", where you're teaching them something that can't be taught in any other way. You are responsible for any non-beneficial conditions you bring to others. You may teach, but punishment is God's.

If someone is sneaking out of your house with a satchel of money you can't shoot them?

I hope you are just one of those theatrical satanists because Satan is just another part of the Judaeo-Christian mythos, whereas the human will is very real...


though I am by no means a conventional "thelemite" as you seem to presume.

Every day they do it from the news room

There is the divine, the fallen divine, and the human. You can determine these in any way you like, the only saving grace I'm aware of is Jesus but only as far as science will take him.

The divine is the humanistic ideal; the good man can uniquely do in the animal kingdom. The fallen divine, or satanist, is the evil man is uniquely capable of. The human, or thelemist, is the basic beastly instincts man may exhibit, which are called "wicked."