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Those trying to become stronger by putting in extra hours at the gym may be getting it all wrong, according to new research.

Researchers have found that engaging your nerves could be more important to gaining strength than working out your muscles.

In the body, specialised nerves known as motor neurons relay signals from the brain to the muscle tissue, which allows us to choose when we flex our muscles.

Scientists have now found that some types of exercise engage the nerves surrounding our muscle tissue more than others.

They discovered that lifting heavy weights engages the nerve cells more than lifting light weights, even if you do far fewer reps.

Lifting heavy weights can induce nerves to carry more signals from the brain to the muscles, making muscles stronger, the researchers found.
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Just interested in getting bigger muscles bro!
Don't wanna be a power lifter. Lifting to heavy just increases to possibility of injury. And you don't want that!
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No kidding? To get strong you lift heavy weights?
Wow, the things you learn from the Daily Fail.
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Just interested in getting bigger muscles bro!
Don't wanna be a power lifter. Lifting to heavy just increases to possibility of injury. And you don't want that!
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I think you are wrong in your assessment.
Here is a quote from David Kingsbury, the man who train Hugh Jackman for his Wolverine role.
"Hugh hadn't done much direct strength work prior to training with me. He mostly worked in the 8-12 rep range. I always encourage low, 1-5 rep heavy work to stimulate myofibril hypertrophy. Then after the heavy work is done we move onto the higher rep schemes to encourage sarcoplasmic hypertrophy. By increasing your strength with the low reps, you increase your capacity with the higher reps, so I always plan heavy sets of the compound movements. The combination of the two styles brings the best gains."

Rest of article here: [link to www.bodybuilding.com (secure)]
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Bumped.

I do: dips, squats, pushups + cobra poses to hit my abs. I want the simplest weightless routine I can find. Are there any muscle groups Im missing?

Happy to listen to any advice.

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Just interested in getting bigger muscles bro!
Don't wanna be a power lifter. Lifting to heavy just increases to possibility of injury. And you don't want that!
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I think you are wrong in your assessment.
Here is a quote from David Kingsbury, the man who train Hugh Jackman for his Wolverine role.
"Hugh hadn't done much direct strength work prior to training with me. He mostly worked in the 8-12 rep range. I always encourage low, 1-5 rep heavy work to stimulate myofibril hypertrophy. Then after the heavy work is done we move onto the higher rep schemes to encourage sarcoplasmic hypertrophy. By increasing your strength with the low reps, you increase your capacity with the higher reps, so I always plan heavy sets of the compound movements. The combination of the two styles brings the best gains."

Rest of article here: [link to www.bodybuilding.com (secure)]
 Quoting: LTHN.


Interesting article!
It still encourages a combination of low rep and later high rep exercises.
What I see in the gym all the time is young guys that load up the bar as heavy as they can for bench, squat and deadlift and go ahead and jerk for 1-3 reps.
Due to my a little more advanced age I usually only due exercises I can reach 8-16 reps. I can not lift as much as the young guys, but I achieved more muscle mass and more importantly no injuries.
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Re: Trying to get strong? Forget muscles, you need to work out your NERVES by lifting heavy weights, new study finds
Just interested in getting bigger muscles bro!
Don't wanna be a power lifter. Lifting to heavy just increases to possibility of injury. And you don't want that!
 Quoting: Brodolph Liftler 75206499


I think you are wrong in your assessment.
Here is a quote from David Kingsbury, the man who train Hugh Jackman for his Wolverine role.
"Hugh hadn't done much direct strength work prior to training with me. He mostly worked in the 8-12 rep range. I always encourage low, 1-5 rep heavy work to stimulate myofibril hypertrophy. Then after the heavy work is done we move onto the higher rep schemes to encourage sarcoplasmic hypertrophy. By increasing your strength with the low reps, you increase your capacity with the higher reps, so I always plan heavy sets of the compound movements. The combination of the two styles brings the best gains."

Rest of article here: [link to www.bodybuilding.com (secure)]
 Quoting: LTHN.


Interesting article!
It still encourages a combination of low rep and later high rep exercises.
What I see in the gym all the time is young guys that load up the bar as heavy as they can for bench, squat and deadlift and go ahead and jerk for 1-3 reps.
Due to my a little more advanced age I usually only due exercises I can reach 8-16 reps. I can not lift as much as the young guys, but I achieved more muscle mass and more importantly no injuries.
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Glad you liked the article, and it sounds as though you know what is best for your body, keeping fit and strong, injury free.
Strength and vitality to you sir!
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Re: Trying to get strong? Forget muscles, you need to work out your NERVES by lifting heavy weights, new study finds
Uh this is nothing new

You lift heavy shit to get big
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Bumped.

I do: dips, squats, pushups + cobra poses to hit my abs. I want the simplest weightless routine I can find. Are there any muscle groups Im missing?

Happy to listen to any advice.
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Add some calf raises on a step, very good for calf growth, do them until the calves burn. Also, when you do the with your toes pointed slightly inward, you will work the outer calf more, and doing them with the toes pointed slightly outward, you will hit the inner calf more.

Short article and video on stair calf raises.

[link to www.directlyfitness.com]

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Bumped.

I do: dips, squats, pushups + cobra poses to hit my abs. I want the simplest weightless routine I can find. Are there any muscle groups Im missing?

Happy to listen to any advice.
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Back - pull ups

Legs - squats

Cobra poses work back not abs.

Look at YouTube....
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Re: Trying to get strong? Forget muscles, you need to work out your NERVES by lifting heavy weights, new study finds
Lifting heavy can be bad for tendons, ligaments, and decreases flexibility.

Do them all, switch em up.

Medium reps medium weight, heavy weight low reps and fast body movements with explosive power.

Scientific studies are too narrow and just want to prove a point but miss out on the whole picture.
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Bumped.

I do: dips, squats, pushups + cobra poses to hit my abs. I want the simplest weightless routine I can find. Are there any muscle groups Im missing?

Happy to listen to any advice.
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weightless squats ???
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Bumped.

I do: dips, squats, pushups + cobra poses to hit my abs. I want the simplest weightless routine I can find. Are there any muscle groups Im missing?

Happy to listen to any advice.
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weightless squats ???
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Indeed, they are called Hindu squats, check it out:
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And, for more info: [link to www.animal-kingdom-workouts.com]
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Going to the gym will make you look big but if you truly want to be strong try daily physical labor.

In my life the strongest people I ever met were concrete workers and bricklayers.

I'll bet you gym girls couldn't push a wheelbarrow full of concrete more than 10 feet lolol
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Going to the gym will make you look big but if you truly want to be strong try daily physical labor.

In my life the strongest people I ever met were concrete workers and bricklayers.

I'll bet you gym girls couldn't push a wheelbarrow full of concrete more than 10 feet lolol
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hesright
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fuck this.

Just give us a pill which sends exactly the same signals to our bodies as lifting heavy weights does, without the risk of injury.
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Cool. I practice heavy weight lifting bringing in the groceries. Fuck 2 trips to the trunk.
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Cool. I practice heavy weight lifting bringing in the groceries. Fuck 2 trips to the trunk.
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You are a strong alien.
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Bumped.

I do: dips, squats, pushups + cobra poses to hit my abs. I want the simplest weightless routine I can find. Are there any muscle groups Im missing?

Happy to listen to any advice.
 Quoting: Daozen


Add some calf raises on a step, very good for calf growth, do them until the calves burn. Also, when you do the with your toes pointed slightly inward, you will work the outer calf more, and doing them with the toes pointed slightly outward, you will hit the miner calf more.

Short article and video on stair calf raises.

[link to www.directlyfitness.com]
 Quoting: LTHN.


Good idea LTHN. I could do that. I like the feeling of burning calves. Remember it from my mountain biking days.

Spent my whole youth on a bike...
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Bumped.

I do: dips, squats, pushups + cobra poses to hit my abs. I want the simplest weightless routine I can find. Are there any muscle groups Im missing?

Happy to listen to any advice.
 Quoting: Daozen


Back - pull ups

Legs - squats

Cobra poses work back not abs.

Look at YouTube....
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I move between Cobra and Dog pose a few times. Seems to work my core.

I used to love pull ups. There's not one outside pull up bar in the town I live. I looked everywhere. Wait, there is one, but it's 15 mins walk. I don't want to join a gym. Pulling up off a doorframe is risky in a Chinese rented house, lol.

I'm going to buy a free standing pullup bar next time I have 100 bucks spare.

To the Chinese guy asking about squats.... Yes, they're hindu squats. Check the Royal Court, by Matt Furey.
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Those trying to become stronger by putting in extra hours at the gym may be getting it all wrong, according to new research.

Researchers have found that engaging your nerves could be more important to gaining strength than working out your muscles.

In the body, specialised nerves known as motor neurons relay signals from the brain to the muscle tissue, which allows us to choose when we flex our muscles.

Scientists have now found that some types of exercise engage the nerves surrounding our muscle tissue more than others.

They discovered that lifting heavy weights engages the nerve cells more than lifting light weights, even if you do far fewer reps.

Lifting heavy weights can induce nerves to carry more signals from the brain to the muscles, making muscles stronger, the researchers found.
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Thanks for making this thread OP!

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Bumped.

I do: dips, squats, pushups + cobra poses to hit my abs. I want the simplest weightless routine I can find. Are there any muscle groups Im missing?

Happy to listen to any advice.
 Quoting: Daozen


Back - pull ups

Legs - squats

Cobra poses work back not abs.

Look at YouTube....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1536902


I move between Cobra and Dog pose a few times. Seems to work my core.

I used to love pull ups. There's not one outside pull up bar in the town I live. I looked everywhere. Wait, there is one, but it's 15 mins walk. I don't want to join a gym. Pulling up off a doorframe is risky in a Chinese rented house, lol.

I'm going to buy a free standing pullup bar next time I have 100 bucks spare.

To the Chinese guy asking about squats.... Yes, they're hindu squats. Check the Royal Court, by Matt Furey.
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This thread originally was about lifting heavy weights and you make it all about yoga.

threadhi
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This thread originally was about lifting heavy weights and you make it all about yoga.

threadhi
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haha.

Seems like the same subject to me. Is all that pollution on the mainland going to your head?

Do a one handed push up with your feet on the bed, hold it for 1 minute and tell me if that's heavy. If that's too easy, go on your fists or fingers. If that's too easy, lift up one foot. Then hold the pose at the base for 2-3 minutes.

Why do I need external weights if I'm walking round with 70 kilos built in?

Hindu Pushups are the perfect cross between yoga + weights.


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Just interested in getting bigger muscles bro!
Don't wanna be a power lifter. Lifting to heavy just increases to possibility of injury. And you don't want that!
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just focus on being strong cos if u are strong you will look strong
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Bumped.

I do: dips, squats, pushups + cobra poses to hit my abs. I want the simplest weightless routine I can find. Are there any muscle groups Im missing?

Happy to listen to any advice.
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if u don't do the following then start doing them

one arm pullups
oustretched arm pushups
elevated feet pushps
planks
hanging leg raises
stomach vaccums
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oh and pistol squats
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Going to the gym will make you look big but if you truly want to be strong try daily physical labor.

In my life the strongest people I ever met were concrete workers and bricklayers.

I'll bet you gym girls couldn't push a wheelbarrow full of concrete more than 10 feet lolol
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I knew a guy who spent his career as a farm hand on a state university agriculture campus farm. Even with all his right fingers clipped off by a lawn mower we called them the nubs of death, that dude is 25 years older than me and still strong as an ox.

I never liked doing hours long gym sets, I saw good results doing high weights, low descending reps. Even when I was too busy for the gym, I always did pull ups/chin ups/push ups, all of which can be tailored for a lot of muscles. Always surprised my bigger musclehead friends when grappling, boxing, etc.

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Those trying to become stronger by putting in extra hours at the gym may be getting it all wrong, according to new research.

Researchers have found that engaging your nerves could be more important to gaining strength than working out your muscles.

In the body, specialised nerves known as motor neurons relay signals from the brain to the muscle tissue, which allows us to choose when we flex our muscles.

Scientists have now found that some types of exercise engage the nerves surrounding our muscle tissue more than others.

They discovered that lifting heavy weights engages the nerve cells more than lifting light weights, even if you do far fewer reps.

Lifting heavy weights can induce nerves to carry more signals from the brain to the muscles, making muscles stronger, the researchers found.
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Uh. What "new research"?

I was a competetive powerlifter back in early 2000s and even us amateurs knew that the central nervous system (CNS) was the key. It's been known since 1970s since the Russians pioneered their scientific method for weightlifters.

Lots of muscle mass was, in fact, a handicap because you wanted to stay under a certain weight to compete in your weight class. The key to success was to train your CNS to the max without adding body weight.

Many short sets (3-4 reps) with total load (reps x sets x weights) ramping up every week until you were borderline overtrained. The load diagram would look like a sawtooth waveform with the baseline increasing over the weeks. Then you'd have a week focusing on speed (i.e. training your skeletal muscle nerves): You'd do short EXPLOSIVE reps with light weights (50-60% of your target max). After that it was competition and/or record breaking time.
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Bumped.

I do: dips, squats, pushups + cobra poses to hit my abs. I want the simplest weightless routine I can find. Are there any muscle groups Im missing?

Happy to listen to any advice.
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