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The Jesus Matrix

 
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Huhhh?

jesus never existed

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Berean  (OP)

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.................
Been there.
Opinions are not proof.
I hope you don't bet your eternity on opinions.
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I was hoping that you would come back to you're posting.

Have you ever really been in the LIGHT?

Have you ever been to the dimension where God is?

Thanks ahead of time for your response.

blessings to all
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I was hoping that you would come back to you're posting.

Have you ever really been in the LIGHT?

Have you ever been to the dimension where God is?

Thanks ahead of time for your response.

blessings to all
 Quoting: Little Star


No I haven't been there, but look forward to it. But like a previous thread, the transition to get there causes some apprehension.
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Regardless of your "religion", (which has very little to do with real Christianity anyway) there is more proof that Jesus existed than there is that you do.
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I was hoping that you would come back to you're posting.

Have you ever really been in the LIGHT?

Have you ever been to the dimension where God is?

Thanks ahead of time for your response.

blessings to all


No I haven't been there, but look forward to it. But like a previous thread, the transition to get there causes some apprehension.
 Quoting: Berean


The reason I asked was because I have. Wow!

I crossed over went to the dimension of where God was by the way of death of the flesh body. I was sent back. Before I had no life spiritually. Today I try my best to be kind, good to people, and to help them. Before my life was for self and nothing else. Today it is about everyone else and how I can help them understand that death is not the end.

Want to compare notes?

Thank you for communicating with me. It is you that is kind..

blessings to you
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Little Star would you be willing to elaborate on your visit for us?

I always enjoy hearing of someone who has experienced things "beyond the veil".

Peace to you.
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The reason I asked was because I have. Wow!

I crossed over went to the dimension of where God was by the way of death of the flesh body. I was sent back. Before I had no life spiritually. Today I try my best to be kind, good to people, and to help them. Before my life was for self and nothing else. Today it is about everyone else and how I can help them understand that death is not the end.

Want to compare notes?

Thank you for communicating with me. It is you that is kind..

blessings to you
 Quoting: Little Star


The unfortunate part is that living for everyone else, and being kind, while beneficial and Godly, will not repair the damage done that he is speaking of. The reconciliation cannot come from man, regardless of the attempt. Free will can usher you into the presence of light or oblivion.
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The reason I asked was because I have. Wow!

I crossed over went to the dimension of where God was by the way of death of the flesh body. I was sent back. Before I had no life spiritually. Today I try my best to be kind, good to people, and to help them. Before my life was for self and nothing else. Today it is about everyone else and how I can help them understand that death is not the end.

Want to compare notes?

Thank you for communicating with me. It is you that is kind..

blessings to you


The unfortunate part is that living for everyone else, and being kind, while beneficial and Godly, will not repair the damage done that he is speaking of. The reconciliation cannot come from man, regardless of the attempt. Free will can usher you into the presence of light or oblivion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 208541

What I was sharing was only that I changed my life style because I know that I was not doing things right before the event. That is why when someone comes at me hard like they do to each other on glp, I always just laugh and be as gentle as they will let me be back to them.

I understand the LIGHT clearly. I am also waiting to see who really wants to know what was shown to me..

blessings to all
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The reason I asked was because I have. Wow!

I crossed over went to the dimension of where God was by the way of death of the flesh body. I was sent back. Before I had no life spiritually. Today I try my best to be kind, good to people, and to help them. Before my life was for self and nothing else. Today it is about everyone else and how I can help them understand that death is not the end.

Want to compare notes?

Thank you for communicating with me. It is you that is kind..

blessings to you


The unfortunate part is that living for everyone else, and being kind, while beneficial and Godly, will not repair the damage done that he is speaking of. The reconciliation cannot come from man, regardless of the attempt. Free will can usher you into the presence of light or oblivion.
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Well said.
Berean  (OP)

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The reason I asked was because I have. Wow!

I crossed over went to the dimension of where God was by the way of death of the flesh body. I was sent back. Before I had no life spiritually. Today I try my best to be kind, good to people, and to help them. Before my life was for self and nothing else. Today it is about everyone else and how I can help them understand that death is not the end.

Want to compare notes?

Thank you for communicating with me. It is you that is kind..

blessings to you
 Quoting: Little Star

Please elaborate. I used to live next to Dr. Maurice Rawlings and have heard several stories that would curl your hair or others that would make you smile.
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Little Star would you be willing to elaborate on your visit for us?

I always enjoy hearing of someone who has experienced things "beyond the veil".

Peace to you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 90848

I will a little bit, but its not about me, its about you and others..

OP talks about a cylinder. I did go down a long tube like path which had light but the closer I got to the end it got brighter and brighter.

When I was totally on the other side I was met by an angel who put information in front of me about me. I was shown many things there, and met lots of angels. I saw some of my relatives and some I did not even know I had until I crossed over.
The place was very beautiful and as what stuck out the most was the floors how they shined. I saw many differant things that I cannot explain only describe. The things that the angel wanted me to know was told. As we walked along as he guided I could see things and never asked the angel what they were.
Think we have high tech stuff? Wait until you see what is there..

blessings to all
Little Star

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The floors were like gold, very shiny.

I saw many huge doors and I was taken through a couple of them and shown some things.
One of the things that I saw was angels using some kind of instruments on a panel. They would run their hands over some lights and then a image would appear out of knowwhere in front of the angel and myself. As each image appeared the angel explained them. One of them was the image of the corner of Gods right eye. A tear fell from His eye and in that eye things of the future were shown to me.
(Now I know that many will ask about that, but please understand that if I start saying things, many will not understand.)
The creator is weeping for His children.
Some say prove that. Sure, can.
When ever a person comes to you and tells you they saw God or talked to God, there must be a reason for it and they must be able to document it.
Here is the documenting part. Jer. 9:1.

The reason I eat the hidden manna that I talk about from time to time to those who do talk with me; is not for me, but for all. The bible does have a code by the way, but not the "bible code" stuff that is flying around.
That code was shown to me, and how to dig it out to share with others. I guess you could say, that is the connection proof because of what I point out in scripture.
I will be teaching this sunday to one of the churches that have called me back. The first time I was there, about 4 week ago, I taught from 11:00 am until 1:20 pm. They were hungry and this time from what I hear, there will be lot more people there. I hope so.
What I shared with them is what I am so poorly trying to do on this thread. That LIGHT is real, and if you can get to that LIGHT, you will understand much more about your life and death. That LIGHT is Christ.

I will wait to go on to see if anyone is interested.

Blessings to all
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Huhhh?

jesus never existed

[link to video.google.com]

[link to www.jesusneverexisted.com]

.................
Been there.
Opinions are not proof.
I hope you don't bet your eternity on opinions.
 Quoting: Berean



Not an opinion. Theres been plenty of savior sons with virgin mothers before Jesus, what a coincidence. Theres no historical evidence of Jesus. You go into denial, then call facts and logic opinions.
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Huhhh?

jesus never existed

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[link to www.jesusneverexisted.com]



Regardless of your "religion", (which has very little to do with real Christianity anyway) there is more proof that Jesus existed than there is that you do.
 Quoting: Gradient 208541


There is no proof, you go into denial, then call non-proof proof. Theres more evidence weighing toward Jesus never existing and being symbological. thats why stuff like dec 25 is his birthday (3 days after the solstice, when the sun is reborn and starts moving north again) thats why all the dates in christianity are taken from religions before it, and how theres other savior sons with virgin mothers. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Huhhh?

jesus never existed

[link to video.google.com]

[link to www.jesusneverexisted.com]



Regardless of your "religion", (which has very little to do with real Christianity anyway) there is more proof that Jesus existed than there is that you do.


There is no proof, you go into denial, then call non-proof proof. Theres more evidence weighing toward Jesus never existing and being symbological. thats why stuff like dec 25 is his birthday (3 days after the solstice, when the sun is reborn and starts moving north again) thats why all the dates in christianity are taken from religions before it, and how theres other savior sons with virgin mothers. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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I am so sorry that you are being mis-lead.

First Jesus was not born on Dec. 25, but was conceived on Dec. 25. Jesus was born in the month we call sept.
So, already I have shown you my friend that the info you are reading is not correct.
I am not out to prove or dis-prove Jesus or my walk with the real LIGHT.
I have heard your info many times before and that is why I started my own quest in my life to find the truth.
It is not up to me to bring you to the Light, that is between you and the creator. Many Christians get upset because someone does not agree with them.
So my friend, if you want to compare notes, we can do that, but what will you personally gain from it?
Maybe just a friend. Or maybe just another person you can tell what you think is to be true.

blessings to all
Berean  (OP)

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Huhhh?

jesus never existed

[link to video.google.com]

[link to www.jesusneverexisted.com]

.................
Been there.
Opinions are not proof.
I hope you don't bet your eternity on opinions.



Not an opinion. Theres been plenty of savior sons with virgin mothers before Jesus, what a coincidence. Theres no historical evidence of Jesus. You go into denial, then call facts and logic opinions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 209453


No historical evidence!!!
How about the way we measure time piviots on His birth.
I have seen others blow your two links out of the water so any argument with you will be biased. Almost like someone jumping off a cliff and claiming no such thing as gravity.
You can't reason with them till they hit.
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Huhhh?

jesus never existed

[link to video.google.com]

[link to www.jesusneverexisted.com]



Regardless of your "religion", (which has very little to do with real Christianity anyway) there is more proof that Jesus existed than there is that you do.


There is no proof, you go into denial, then call non-proof proof. Theres more evidence weighing toward Jesus never existing and being symbological. thats why stuff like dec 25 is his birthday (3 days after the solstice, when the sun is reborn and starts moving north again) thats why all the dates in christianity are taken from religions before it, and how theres other savior sons with virgin mothers. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 209453

PS. to you friend. When you see in the near future a craft that is like amber, yellow looking, and it lands 7 miles north of Mt. Zion, don't go running to it.
Also, if you feel the heat of the sun, or the cold, or feel pain, it is not the real LIGHT, it is not Jesus, it will be the false one.
Today you can not find peace with what I have said, but when the event happens, you will know that you did hear the truth.

blessings to all
Little Star

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Huhhh?

jesus never existed

[link to video.google.com]

[link to www.jesusneverexisted.com]

.................
Been there.
Opinions are not proof.
I hope you don't bet your eternity on opinions.



Not an opinion. Theres been plenty of savior sons with virgin mothers before Jesus, what a coincidence. Theres no historical evidence of Jesus. You go into denial, then call facts and logic opinions.


No historical evidence!!!
How about the way we measure time piviots on His birth.
I have seen others blow your two links out of the water so any argument with you will be biased. Almost like someone jumping off a cliff and claiming no such thing as gravity.
You can't reason with them till they hit.
 Quoting: Berean


I would like to add, that all nations, all religions base BC and AD for a reason.. smiling..
blessings to all
Little Star

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I understand how you explained OP your info about the dimensions.

If I was in church right now and stood from the pulpit I would see people in the front row. Lets say it is full, no room what so ever left for anyone else to sit down.
But, it true dimensional speaking, we could see others sitting in the same front row. Smiling knowing angels walk among us...

Blessings to all.
Berean  (OP)

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Thanks for your input Little Star. Please continue your story at your earliest convenience.
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The floors were like gold, very shiny.

.............. That LIGHT is Christ.

I will wait to go on to see if anyone is interested.

Blessings to all
 Quoting: Little Star

...........................

Please go on you tell a facinating story. Please elaborate on the golden ships and when you think this event will happen.
And would it be rude of me to ask of how you died?
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I‘ve been here a while, like 4 or 5 years and thought I would finally register.

Before I get to topic, let me brief you on me. I’ve been around, and have seen and done things that would blush most. I have a degree in engineering. Married with children. Once was lost, and spent a lot of time and energy looking for “Truth”. Nuff said.

Now the topic.

Being a Christian, I am commanded to go out and spread the good news. Being of a scientific mind, I will try to sew seed scientifically. Without being dogmatic, the way I see our “realm” is this.

We actually live in a “Matrix”. We move around in this dimension like the ones in the movie, oblivious to reality. Few realize that all we are, are particles composed of opposite charges. Energy bound up in a sub-atomic, cosmic dance. Scientists have no idea of this “force” holding our reality together. Like the movie, our reality is flawed. We are unwinding. Slaves to entropy.
Trapped.
Our corruption is not compatible with the creator. His nature will not allow corruption. This is why we are stuck here. We are here not of our own choice (that choice was made for us long ago) but we are here none the less. Being here we are “infected with it’s stench”.

In this realm, we have three dimensions that we observe. We are also told that “time” is the 4th D. God, being out of our restrictions, sees our 4 D’s as one lump. Beginning to end, and all in between. Imagine your life as a cylinder, with your birth and death as each end of this cylinder.
Now imagine God seeing all of the universe from beginning to end, outside our reality as a cylinder held in His hand.

More later. We will discuss how the creator has fixed our "program" of we allow it.
 Quoting: Berean


Hi, OP, I too was a Christian for a few decades but eventually came to realize that it's all -- and that includes Islam and Judaism -- a big control mechanism or hoax, if you will, to stunt our true spiritual growth. I'm convinced that any matrix-like system includes Christianity as it is one of the most powerful methods of control and spiritual oppression there is.
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Hi, OP, I too was a Christian for a few decades but eventually came to realize that it's all -- and that includes Islam and Judaism -- a big control mechanism or hoax, if you will, to stunt our true spiritual growth. I'm convinced that any matrix-like system includes Christianity as it is one of the most powerful methods of control and spiritual oppression there is.
 Quoting: Mickey Martian


High Mickey Martian. Thanks for your input. Though I disagree because I actually "feel" different than I did before I was redeemed. I actually remember the moment...

But I also remember being forced to go thru the motions when I was young. Too young to understand what sin and the need for redemption.

I hope that maybe one day you will come to a true saving faith because if this universe is but a stone in the hand of God, imagine whats in store.

This universe will die one day and I hope to see you on the other side. Peace.
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Hi, OP, I too was a Christian for a few decades but eventually came to realize that it's all -- and that includes Islam and Judaism -- a big control mechanism or hoax, if you will, to stunt our true spiritual growth. I'm convinced that any matrix-like system includes Christianity as it is one of the most powerful methods of control and spiritual oppression there is.


High Mickey Martian. Thanks for your input. Though I disagree because I actually "feel" different than I did before I was redeemed. I actually remember the moment...

But I also remember being forced to go thru the motions when I was young. Too young to understand what sin and the need for redemption.

I hope that maybe one day you will come to a true saving faith because if this universe is but a stone in the hand of God, imagine whats in store.

This universe will die one day and I hope to see you on the other side. Peace.
 Quoting: Berean


I should clarify something that many get wrong (I don't know if you thought this or not). I'm not atheist, I just don't believe in the existence of Jesus or any other savior.
Berean  (OP)

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I should clarify something that many get wrong (I don't know if you thought this or not). I'm not atheist, I just don't believe in the existence of Jesus or any other savior.
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Free will is a glorious thing.
I respect your right to believe what you wish.
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i am not separated from God anymore
we are One by the Holy Spirit which dwells in me


Let me restate.
We are seperated from the physical presence of the physical entity that created us.
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Jesus said God is a Spirit
and God created material realms
He is not material in that sense
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God is a spirit
so, if we have the Holy Spirit
we have God
God is not bound by space and time

i hate to tell you
but, your mind has limited what you can believe

............
God is not bound by space or time, but we are. Have you read the whole thread?
 Quoting: Berean

our spirits are not bound by space and time
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i am not separated from God anymore
we are One by the Holy Spirit which dwells in me

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This is the door provided by God. This is how our stain is removed.

The gospel is perfect in it's simplicity.
We were created for immortality (the realm above time).
We screwed up due to our own choice, thus we are stuck in this dimension, which is limited in duration.
We can not achieve "escape" on our own because we are confined to this realms constraints.
Only God can repair our relationship.
God provided a way, but only one way.
This "Way" takes faith that God has completed this path.
God rewards faith.
 Quoting: Berean

you are teaching a form of gnosticism
when God created this earth and our bodies
he stated it was "good"
this is no prison

we just need to have our spirits in ascension in our being
and keep our bodies in obedience to our spirits





GLP