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NRVNAFAN User ID: 74959151 United States 07/22/2017 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say Now they could be charged with something like withholding evidence to a police officer.If you record something that turns into a police investigation and fail to turn it over at the scene. You have no right to withhold evidence of a police investigation for personal interest like posting it later. Its the same as somebody picking up your knife and killing somebody then you grab it off the ground and leave the scene. Last Edited by messagehalted on 07/22/2017 12:27 AM All my post are theatrical artistic writing . |
Nameless the Deplorable User ID: 73740591 United States 07/22/2017 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say In my state you MUST call 911. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44906775 You do not have to put your life at risk otherwise. Florida is SO backwards that nobody is required to even call 911 to save someone's life. That law would require everyone to buy a cell phone. I dont see that as being legal or possible . You are blowing some up peoples ass. If somebody got hurt in a sports game, everyone in the 30000 plus stadium would be required to dial 911 or face a penalty. They already had a cell phone...that's how they filmed it. -- 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
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NRVNAFAN User ID: 74959151 United States 07/22/2017 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say In my state you MUST call 911. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44906775 You do not have to put your life at risk otherwise. Florida is SO backwards that nobody is required to even call 911 to save someone's life. That law would require everyone to buy a cell phone. I dont see that as being legal or possible . You are blowing some up peoples ass. If somebody got hurt in a sports game, everyone in the 30000 plus stadium would be required to dial 911 or face a penalty. They already had a cell phone...that's how they filmed it. -- You can not write a law that knowingly would require a person to break the law or overwhelm the 911 system was my point. You can not regulate morality.What happens to personal responsibility of the individual? Same as bad parents wanting to blame others when their kid drowns in a riverbed. All my post are theatrical artistic writing . |
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jackleson User ID: 1684897 United States 07/22/2017 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say Depraved Indifference In United States law, depraved-heart murder, also known as depraved-indifference murder, is an action where a defendant acts with a "depraved indifference" to human life and where such act results in a death. ... If the risk of death or bodily harm is great enough, ignoring it demonstrates a "depraved indifference" to human life and the resulting death is considered to have been committed with malice aforethought.[1][2] In some states, depraved-heart killings constitute second-degree murder,[3] while in others, the act would be charged with varying degrees of manslaughter.[4] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
NRVNAFAN User ID: 74959151 United States 07/22/2017 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say They could sue for intentional infliction of emotional distress though. I'm glad we don't live in Europe where you can go to jail for not risking your life to save others Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75092916 What happens in Europe when you risk your life to save a rape victim from a migrant refugee by cutting his head off with a shovel? Seems those a-holes have a few problems ,they are the a-holes that write laws for a persons denial of hoax events. All my post are theatrical artistic writing . |
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NRVNAFAN User ID: 74959151 United States 07/22/2017 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say Depraved Indifference Quoting: jackleson In United States law, depraved-heart murder, also known as depraved-indifference murder, is an action where a defendant acts with a "depraved indifference" to human life and where such act results in a death. ... If the risk of death or bodily harm is great enough, ignoring it demonstrates a "depraved indifference" to human life and the resulting death is considered to have been committed with malice aforethought.[1][2] In some states, depraved-heart killings constitute second-degree murder,[3] while in others, the act would be charged with varying degrees of manslaughter.[4] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] So basically a Parent has depraved indifference because they knowingly bring a life into the world knowing it will sufferer death. This is done out a a selfish heartless action for self worth. You never had to die.Your parents are basically selfish murdering bastards. All my post are theatrical artistic writing . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65000433 United States 07/22/2017 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say Depraved Indifference Quoting: jackleson In United States law, depraved-heart murder, also known as depraved-indifference murder, is an action where a defendant acts with a "depraved indifference" to human life and where such act results in a death. ... If the risk of death or bodily harm is great enough, ignoring it demonstrates a "depraved indifference" to human life and the resulting death is considered to have been committed with malice aforethought.[1][2] In some states, depraved-heart killings constitute second-degree murder,[3] while in others, the act would be charged with varying degrees of manslaughter.[4] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] The kids would have needed to do something that resulted in a death for the "depraved indifference" law to apply. If they had pushed the guy into the water, or prevented him from leaving, or had done anything else that would have potentially caused him to die, then the "depraved indifference" thing applies. Since all they did was to watch and record, I doubt it could be used, but a really good prosecutor might be able to argue that their continued presence and laughing and videoing in an obvious way would be a contributing factor in the death. If so, he could be charged and possibly convicted, especially if a jury of decent citizens was hearing the case. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71004694 United States 07/22/2017 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say It was wrong for them to laugh but to help him at the risk of me dying no I would not either Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69282461 Help would not involve diving in and rescuing him. It would involve dialing 3 digits on the phone that was already in their nasty hands. What part of "no service" on their phone don't you understand?!?! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65000433 United States 07/22/2017 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say It was wrong for them to laugh but to help him at the risk of me dying no I would not either Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69282461 Help would not involIve diving in and rescuing him. It would involve dialing 3 digits on the phone that was already in their nasty hands. What part of "no service" on their phone don't you understand?!?! In most cases, swimming rescues are a last resort. Ideally he can be reached with a branch or some other thing, otherwise find anything that floats and toss it to him. Swimming rescues are possible if you're a strong swimmer and you know how to avoid and escape a death clutch by the victim. If you're not sure you can make such a rescue, you're ill advised to even try. Just do the other things and call 911 or other rescue service. |
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Magnum44 User ID: 42155410 Canada 07/22/2017 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say Look. This seems reprehensible at first glance. Because it is. These kids should have called 911 instead of filming it like the idiots that they are. BUT! There's no way the authorities would have made it there on time to save the idiot who drowned. I'm pretty sure these black teens didn't know how to swim. They're black. Plus Florida swamps are infested with Gators. Can you imagine being a teenager and watching some guy just jump in a swamp while you're smoking some reefer? They're pieces of shit for laughing the guy, but they committed no crime here. Back before Smart phones this retard who drowned himself still would have died. The guy drowned in less than 3 minutes. Sad all around, and these punks should not have been laughing, but if you would have been the hero here good on you. Last Edited by Magnum44 on 07/22/2017 01:48 AM Magnum44 |
jackleson User ID: 73166027 United States 07/22/2017 01:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say Depraved Indifference Quoting: jackleson In United States law, depraved-heart murder, also known as depraved-indifference murder, is an action where a defendant acts with a "depraved indifference" to human life and where such act results in a death. ... If the risk of death or bodily harm is great enough, ignoring it demonstrates a "depraved indifference" to human life and the resulting death is considered to have been committed with malice aforethought.[1][2] In some states, depraved-heart killings constitute second-degree murder,[3] while in others, the act would be charged with varying degrees of manslaughter.[4] [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)] The kids would have needed to do something that resulted in a death for the "depraved indifference" law to apply. If they had pushed the guy into the water, or prevented him from leaving, or had done anything else that would have potentially caused him to die, then the "depraved indifference" thing applies. Since all they did was to watch and record, I doubt it could be used, but a really good prosecutor might be able to argue that their continued presence and laughing and videoing in an obvious way would be a contributing factor in the death. If so, he could be charged and possibly convicted, especially if a jury of decent citizens was hearing the case. Hope you're right it could be used in a prosecution....does watching and recording without actually doing anything, not constitute "ignoring it"? 'If the risk of death or bodily harm is great enough, ignoring it demonstrates a "depraved indifference" to human life' |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75263158 United States 07/22/2017 01:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say In my state you MUST call 911. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44906775 You do not have to put your life at risk otherwise. Florida is SO backwards that nobody is required to even call 911 to save someone's life. fyi, I would not have jumped into that water. I can swim, but I'm not a stupid risk taker. I would have called 911. Yep Smart Google the number of people drowned by rescuing others drowning Anyone that tries to rescue a drowning victim without a floatation devide is a Darwin Award Winner |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75263158 United States 07/22/2017 02:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say It was wrong for them to laugh but to help him at the risk of me dying no I would not either Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69282461 Help would not involve diving in and rescuing him. It would involve dialing 3 digits on the phone that was already in their nasty hands. Those 3 digits would be for corpse removal |
Magnum44 User ID: 42155410 Canada 07/22/2017 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say Now if this was some toddler playing by the bank, I would hope to God these kids would have had some sense to react appropriately. But to see a grown man jump in?? Had this been a white community......possibly different outcome. Last Edited by Magnum44 on 07/22/2017 02:12 AM Magnum44 |
oh_yikes User ID: 51515778 United States 07/22/2017 02:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say It was wrong for them to laugh but to help him at the risk of me dying no I would not either Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69282461 Help would not involve diving in and rescuing him. It would involve dialing 3 digits on the phone that was already in their nasty hands. What part of "no service" on their phone don't you understand?!?! I saw nowhere in the article any mention of "no service" on their phones. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75263158 United States 07/22/2017 02:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say Did any of the 'teens' even know how to swim? Quoting: Deplorable Desert Dude Big problem it seems with them. Not to say any one of them would of even tried to save the guy if any of them knew how to swim. Too busy laughing was all I saw. "Dayum, he gone now." No souls present in that bunch. Again, read how many PROFESSIONALS even have been dragged down by people panicking while drowning Lets get some common sense here people I would not jump in and save him either unless I had a flotation device |
Lleo Oneiro User ID: 72411222 United States 07/22/2017 02:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say Te proper answer here is, if you see someone drowning and can't help.. so e it. Not criminal. Even if you tell them to fuck off. If there are three of you and you have a cell phone, let's assume without service, and you video tape the drowning and mock the person and have no way of saving them, so what doesn't matter. The question is, could they have done something with the time they had AND were aware they could do something and chose not to. #MSK audio metamorphosis is the completion of life 004 Dao > * "to create a creature & fill it with delight" Find your True Will & DO IT! We're all born with the Will to Receive; become the Will to Bestow. All to ha'shem @LleoOneiro (BLAQOQ [ILLFIGJA TSINTHEIST]) DOAPPOPE 424E TRAV.IS AL AN DONAI(L)D - NON-AFFILIATED • ILLE DUEM DUES ILLUM VOCAT |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75260006 Japan 07/22/2017 02:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74588553 It may be reprehensible and morally outrageous, but legal experts say a group of Florida teens had no obligation to rescue a drowning disabled man who they instead mocked, laughed at and recorded on a video that was later posted online. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, in a 2012 legal argument, summarized that across the U.S. there's no general duty to render aid to someone in distress. 'You don't have the duty to rescue someone if that person is in danger. The blind man is walking in front of a car and you do not have a duty to stop him absent some relation between you,' Kennedy said in arguments on the Affordable Care Act, or 'Obamacare.' fucking NIQQERZ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37283696 United States 07/22/2017 02:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say Not sure if many of you know this, but most blacks can't swim. What makes you think some high as fuck black kids are going to jump in a swamp to save some retard who just threw himself into gator infested waters? Quoting: Magnum44 Far more relevant than their not being able to swim is the fact they come from a culture which is more libtarded than any other large group of people in America. The mindless liberalism of a overwhelming number of black people and pathetic situations like this one - of both the face-tatooed victim and the kids laughing at him as he drowns - are like the ultimate example of libtardism at its logical, exhausted conclusion. Liberalism sure as hell doesn't make for a smarter, kinder, nicer, more honest, more humane, more ethical society. Thanks, libtards. . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71014511 United States 07/22/2017 02:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say Too bad the flight attendant with those ninja wine bottle moves wasn't around. They would have helped the guy out. We need more people like that. This story is so sad. I'm not making light of it, if you can save a life, you do it. It's so weird to me that someone would avoid helping this man, law or no law. And taunting. Disturbing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7202665 United States 07/22/2017 04:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Teens who taunted a disabled man as he drowned and filmed his death were under no legal obligation to help him, experts say [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74588553 It may be reprehensible and morally outrageous, but legal experts say a group of Florida teens had no obligation to rescue a drowning disabled man who they instead mocked, laughed at and recorded on a video that was later posted online. Supreme Court Justice Anthony Kennedy, in a 2012 legal argument, summarized that across the U.S. there's no general duty to render aid to someone in distress. 'You don't have the duty to rescue someone if that person is in danger. The blind man is walking in front of a car and you do not have a duty to stop him absent some relation between you,' Kennedy said in arguments on the Affordable Care Act, or 'Obamacare.' Maybe they didn't feel like getting eaten by an alligator. Could've at least called somebody but..... it wouldn't have mattered. |
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