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Anonymous Coward User ID: 208965 United States 03/14/2007 05:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 4 times. It is a book of knowledge more than faith. It has its flaws, but it is informative. Quoting: §mithjonesFOUR TIMES? Yipes! Do you mind being designated as GLP's resident Urantia Book Expert? Part IV 6 times...) If you have any questions, I could try to help. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 166024 United States 03/14/2007 05:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Urantia Book is a channeled vomit. Quoting: Red Hot Chilean Pepe (nli) 208991You've been warned. Do you have any external sources to substantiate your claims? If not your opinion is subjective and should not lead to warning other people of your personal interpretation. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 208965 United States 03/14/2007 07:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was hearsay, but someone once mentioned to me that there's some bizarro cult connected with the Urantia Book. Anyone know anything about this? Quoting: §mithjonesThe 'Urantia Brotherhood' was associated with the Foundation, but later broke off. It was not a cult, however, just a group of interested readers looking to promote the Book at gatherings and book sales. However, the effects of the Urantia Book can now be seen associating themselves with Urantia concepts. Drunvalo 'Melchizdek' comes to mind. Drunvalo apparently picks up writing where the UB left off in 1935. There are channelings reportedly from the 'Galactic Federation' which are also borrowing or elsewise using UB terminology and concepts to promote the 'authenticity' of their channelings. There is some "cultish" outgrowths from the UB, but the Foundation in Chicago has nothing to do with them. Since losing the copyright, the UB will have to stand on its own. It is unfortunate that the UB is being dragged down by those promoting a different message than the one it espouses, but then again not all the ideas of the UB are perfect either. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2298 United States 03/14/2007 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was hearsay, but someone once mentioned to me that there's some bizarro cult connected with the Urantia Book. Anyone know anything about this? Quoting: §mithjonesI think the cult they were referring to is that of Gabriel of Sedona, or Aquarian Concepts. Not associated in any way with Urantia except that he chose Urantia Book to the bible of his cult. GABRIEL OF SEDONA [link to www.nhne.com] We've periodically reported on Gabriel of Sedona. Along with believing himself to be a messianic spiritual leader who has incarnated as many of the world's most important historical figures, Gabriel also has the dubious distinction of being publicly roasted on a primetime, one-hour "hidden-camera" episode of DATELINE. The Dateline report aired February 24, 1998. I first met Gabriel several years ago when his wife, Niann, and their children arrived in Sedona. Alone, camping out, and struggling to survive, they eventually started a spiritual community which has since drawn people from all over the world. Based on the Book of Urantia and Gabriel's supposed mission as a messianic prophet ("the vessel to bring forth Continuing Fifth Epochal Revelation"), Gabriel's community, "The Aquarian Concepts Community", engages in a variety of controversial beliefs and practices. Because of my close proximity to Gabriel and his group (Gabriel's community is located in the same general area of Sedona that I live in), and because many of the spiritual circles I am involved with in Sedona occasionally bump into Gabriel and his followers, I have heard a lot about the inner workings of his group. The Dateline special, complete with two undercover reporters, confirmed many of these rumors and brought them out in the open for millions of Americans (and a few thousand Sedonians) to see. And now, to add further insult to injury, there is a website that chronicles the comings and goings of Gabriel and his community. Complete with background information, philosophical overviews, and first-person accounts (some of which are quite interesting), the site also contains the names, phone numbers and email addresses of former members who are seeking to warn others about the group and/or rescue friends and family members who are still involved. As I have said many times in the past, it is not my purpose, or the purpose of NHNE, to save anyone from anything. Our function is to provide those who are interested with accurate information so we can all chart whatever course of belief and action feels appropriate to us. Similarly, I personally believe the Gabriels of the world are serving a valuable function. They provide those who are drawn to them with learning experiences that they may not be able to acquire in more conventional, less emotionally charged circumstances. Perhaps equally important, these colorful characters also provide those of us standing on the bylines with valuable reflections of the ever-fascinating, often wayward and hurtful forces that live within each and everyone of us. Watching their larger-than-life, occasionally unbelievable antics is a great way to learn more about how these same forces wreak havoc in our personal worlds. As you read about Gabriel, I encourage you to keep an eye on the universal human tendency to blame others for our failings ("the guru made me do it and ruined my life"), and/or villainize wayward authority figures (spiritual or otherwise). Villainizing others has, and continues to be, one of the most effective tools we have for overlooking our own character flaws and imperfections -- and preventing those most in need of love, understanding and healing from receiving it... MAIN WEBSITE: Gabriel of Sedona and the Aquarian Concepts Community: [link to www.citilink.com] A FEW THOUGHT-PROVOKING LINKS: Is Gabriel of Sedona Fraud?: [link to www.citilink.com] Gabriel of Sedonas Disastrous Visit to Seattle: [link to www.citilink.com] Is the Aquarian Concepts Community and its leader Gabriel of Sedona Dangerous?: [link to www.citilink.com] Gabriel of Sedona and NBC's Dateline Report: [link to www.citilink.com] GABRIEL'S WEBSITE: The Aquarian Concepts website: [link to www.aquarianconcepts.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 163819 United States 03/14/2007 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Urantia book is fascinating -- as far as I have scanned portions of the massive tome. But how many countless "Urantia books" and philsosophies and metaphysical systems are out there -- past and present? There is no end to it. It's the mind chasing it's own tail. The mind in and of itself can never apprehend truth. This is reserved for higher faculties and functions, and spiritual awakening from beyond or within. Seeking truth in books can be a great catalyst and pump-primer -- but eventually one has to enter the realm of direct realization and inner growth (best played out in the rough-and-tumble of everyday life -- along with periods of inner meditation and prayer). Even that can be a zig-zag path of "tacking" into the wind like a sailboat with various course corrections -- but it is the only way. God will always grace the true and sincere seeker with unfolding inner experience, and this is like the dawn, the transition from darkness to daylight. It seldom comes in one sudden blast of light ... though it can and has. More often it is like that gradual dawn ... My 86 year old Mom got "into" the Urantia Book a few years ago, and decided to go to a Urantia Book group meeting in a nice state park near Dayton, Ohio (I'm sure there are many Urantia "groups"). I drove her over to the park and enjoyed a nice hike along a great river while she went to the meeting. Ended up she was really turned off by the fact that the meeting was led by a Catholic priest, and everyone took "communion" at the end ... My point: it can really help to get bearings and expand horizons by reading widely, but sooner or later there must be "descent/awakening of Spirit" and inner experience. The one who spends a lifetime flitting from one fascinating book to the next gets spiritual indigestion and stalls on the path. I know because I have been there ... and I'm not entirely not "there" ... |
Enigma User ID: 208675 United States 03/14/2007 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes I have been studying it for 20 years... amazing work... regardless of what the religionists and dogmatics say, it contains the largest collection of truth ever published on this planet. I have a searcheable program that let's you study specific words and passages, and do intensive searches. it is amazing... anyone interested in the search folio can PM me.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 206114 Netherlands 03/14/2007 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's the main Urantia site with a word search function that brings up the passages, then you click on those for more content. [link to www.urantiabook.org] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 209135 United States 03/15/2007 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Urantia Book is a channeled vomit. You've been warned. I have read the Urantia Book, about 20 years ago. Just so ya know Urantia = Earth. The title could read Earth Book. But that's not very clever. At the time I really had really mixed feelings about the information, and how it was presented; in a "Good-master of the universe" letter, "Bad-master of the universe" letter, sometimes about the super universes, sometimes just quadrant 9 subsection b of sub-sub-local universe Lucifer, and on and on it went. Blah Blah Blah. Really I read the whole thing. Having no idea about how to handle the information in it, I just set it aside and let it go. Then, one day in Borders Books, up popped this book Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery by Martin Gardner published 1995 by Prometheus Books Wow! What a nice explanation on the all the curious characters involved behind the scenes, in creating this odd compilation of channeled (for lack of a better word) set of disinformation. Although, I think remember reading that these papers, just materialized in a bedroom somewhere in Chicago in the 1930's. I can only recommend reading this highly in formative Gardner book. Gardner connects some very interesting dots. Like one of the original people involved with this group was a Wilfred Kellogg(some say he channeled it), of the Kellogg cereal inventors. Wilfred's father, Dr John Harvey Kellogg ran the Battle Creek, Michigan therapeutic Sanitarium. He was chiefly responsible for starting the Kellogg's cereal empire. He invented this dietary supplement for people in therapeutic sanitariums, hoping to cure or treat their mental and or physical illness with clean living and eating. And another individual became the founder of the Branch Davidian Sect, Splinter group of the Seventh Day Adventist, of eventual Waco fame. Here is a fun Google for Ya, Branch Davidian, urantia book I think it should probably be renamed the Ucraptia Book. That's enough for now. |
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Schismed User ID: 123527 United States 03/15/2007 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was hearsay, but someone once mentioned to me that there's some bizarro cult connected with the Urantia Book. Anyone know anything about this? Quoting: §mithjonescult?? i would ever so slightly suprise me.. think for yourself, question authority.. - Dr. Timothy Leary ... Life!.. it's just a ride! - Bill Hicks The possession of anything begins in the mind - Bruce Lee The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious.... - ALBERT EINSTEIN ~ * ~ opposing zealousness at roots ultimately suffer Though our 'creators'(..'in our image' - Genesis) may have given us life. Bighting the hand that feeds you has never been such a wise phrase. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Shechaiyah User ID: 182943 United States 03/15/2007 01:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Began with Section Four and then wrapped around to the front. Easier to understand that way, with Jesus' life as the beginning, which I'm familiar with already. So, what do you get from it? I get there's a lot more GOOD that's potential and possible than there is, manifest. : ) Shechaiyah |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 698344 United States 06/13/2009 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of silver tongued prose aimed to ultimatley discredit the Bible (the most ancient text of our ancestors) and replace it with a racist cargo cult. Quoting: Isaac Brock died for usyou really hate the U book, huh Then again, I think you are a gay Jew, right........ |
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Furchizedek User ID: 699686 United States 06/16/2009 01:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Urantia Book is not a complete religion, Quoting: Illumi-BunnyRight. It's just the delusions of a (dead) very pleasant, but clearly mentally ill woman, and the fools who followed her. - And who would be that mentally ill woman? Do you have a name? I never heard that before. Furchizedek |
Furchizedek User ID: 699686 United States 06/16/2009 01:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Urantia book is fascinating -- as far as I have scanned portions of the massive tome. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 163819But how many countless "Urantia books" and philsosophies and metaphysical systems are out there -- past and present? There is no end to it. It's the mind chasing it's own tail. The mind in and of itself can never apprehend truth. This is reserved for higher faculties and functions, and spiritual awakening from beyond or within. Seeking truth in books can be a great catalyst and pump-primer -- but eventually one has to enter the realm of direct realization and inner growth (best played out in the rough-and-tumble of everyday life -- along with periods of inner meditation and prayer). Even that can be a zig-zag path of "tacking" into the wind like a sailboat with various course corrections -- but it is the only way. God will always grace the true and sincere seeker with unfolding inner experience, and this is like the dawn, the transition from darkness to daylight. It seldom comes in one sudden blast of light ... though it can and has. More often it is like that gradual dawn ... My 86 year old Mom got "into" the Urantia Book a few years ago, and decided to go to a Urantia Book group meeting in a nice state park near Dayton, Ohio (I'm sure there are many Urantia "groups"). I drove her over to the park and enjoyed a nice hike along a great river while she went to the meeting. Ended up she was really turned off by the fact that the meeting was led by a Catholic priest, and everyone took "communion" at the end ... My point: it can really help to get bearings and expand horizons by reading widely, but sooner or later there must be "descent/awakening of Spirit" and inner experience. The one who spends a lifetime flitting from one fascinating book to the next gets spiritual indigestion and stalls on the path. I know because I have been there ... and I'm not entirely not "there" ... It sounds like your mom went to the wrong place. It sounds like she walked into an outdoor Catholic Mass instead of the Urantia Study group. Old people get mixed up, you know? Urantia study groups do not have Catholic priests handing out communion. Nor does the Catholic Church operate that way, handing out communion at study groups of other religions. Furchizedek |